2026 Olympics Team Event - Strategy, Predictions & Discussion

[coppertop1]

In the case of a tie, what happens?

 

[Karen-W]

I assume that Sato will do 1 4Lz and 2 4T. But he could be asked to go for broke and try 4F or another Lutz?

That's what he has for his planned content right now.

4Lz, 3A+1Eu+3S, 4T+3T, 4T, 3A+2A, 3Lo, 3Lz

Of course, Ilia's planned content is the same layout he had at the GPF. I have no idea what he'll take out to water it down.

 

[acraven]

Ilia's 2nd place in the SP was very, very costly--conceivably affecting his readiness for the individual event. The degree to which he can water down his Team Event FS is going to be somewhat limited.

 

[Theatregirl1122]

I'm not sure why people think Japan should have or would have put up Yuma in the FS. Shun Sato has beaten him in the FS pretty consistently over the last year. I don't even think it's about saving Yuma. It would actually be a strategic mistake to put him in. Sato won the FS at Japanese nationals, beat Yuma in the FS at GPF, at NHK, and at worlds last year.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Someone fax the rainbow cruise ship to tell @AngieNikodinovLove (ANL) the good news he already proclaimed about Amber!

Can I get an amen up in hurrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

Let’s face it Everyone… ANL is pretty smart and knows a lot of things when it comes to the world of figure skating and harems.

There is no way they were not going to split that, did not matter that their individual event is five weeks from now. We have the world champion and two Grand Prix final champions and a three-time national champion. They’re both being sent. There was just no way they weren’t. And they have comparable scores in the big picture.

90% of everybody here owes me peanut butter cups, and I can’t wait !!!!!

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I'd rather Alysa skate twice.

Don’t worry, you’re gonna have that in just under two weeks from now.

 

[Theatregirl1122]

I do have a promise to @Karen-W I might need to follow up on...

And all of these reports about Ilia's practice today are precisely the reason why he will NOT be doing both segments of the TE in Milan.

If he does do both, I'm gonna get this framed for you.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I'd rather Alysa skate twice.

All these amber knit pickers, she’s won nothing but gold medals except three times in the past two years.

There’s been an B event just this season Alysa did not even medal.

 

[my little pony]

a nice cross stitch she can frame over her mantle

 

[Private Citizen]

I assume that Sato will do 1 4Lz and 2 4T. But he could be asked to go for broke and try 4F or another Lutz?

You mean do two 4Lz and only one 4T? Seems risky when he can only repeat one quad. He'd also need to do 4Lz+3T or rework his combos. Has he ever done either?

Sato has received fairly consistent "e" call on his 4F attempts, IIRC, so he'll lose significant value if it's called 4Fe as it has been.

 

[miffy]

I’m really happy for Amber (& ANL!) Tomorrow will be really exciting. I keep changing my mind about who I’m rooting for so hopefully I’ll be happy either way

 

[BittyBug]

Ilia's 2nd place in the SP was very, very costly--conceivably affecting his readiness for the individual event. The degree to which he can water down his Team Event FS is going to be somewhat limited.

USA and JPN are tied. If Ilia had beaten Yuma, USA would only have a 1 point lead and Malinin would still need to do the FS for the USA to have a shot at winning. And even if Liu had also beaten Sakamoto, USA would still only have a 2 point lead, which is not enough of a cushion to allow anyone other than Ilia to do the free skate.

 

[BaileyCatts]

All these amber knit pickers, she’s won nothing but gold medals except three times in the past two years.

With overinflated scores and helped by uncharacteristic poor skates by better skaters. She's been to Worlds 3 times and still hasn't managed to finish higher than 5th.

I'd still put Isabeau and her World Silver in as the 2nd skater or skate Alysa twice.

 

[ilovesalchows]

Not tied.

Team Event

results.isu.org

 

[Theatregirl1122]

a nice cross stitch she can frame over her mantle

Hmmm. Someone here must be able to cross stitch! We have so many crafty people, and they are not me. LOL

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

With overinflated scores and helped by uncharacteristic poor skates by better skaters. She's been to Worlds 3 times and still hasn't managed to finish higher than 5th.

I'd still but Isabeau and her World Silver in as the 2nd skater or skate Alysa twice.

Well, I guess to each their own.

And at the nationals no one has been able to beat Amber and that’s considered the pressure cooker event.

 

[Wyliefan]

I can cross stitch, but I never have time. I've been working on the same project for literally years.

 

[Theatregirl1122]

So if you rank by SB:

Pairs:
JPN: 2 (9 points)
USA: 4 (7 points)

Ladies:
JPN: 1 (10 points)
USA: 2 (9 points)

Men:
JPN: 2 (9 points)
USA: 1 (10 points)

The end result would be:
USA: 70
JPN: 67

I don't really think that's the most likely scenario. Japan is likely to pick up 1-2 more points in pairs as I think M/K will actually be first and K/O COULD be last (or not). If that happens, the US still wins.

With the worst case pairs scenario, if Sato beat Ilia, Japan would win outright. If Kaori finished 1st and Amber 3rd, it would go to the tiebreak. First tie break is also a tie in this scenario. Second tiebreak involves points and is hard to say at this point.

Ilia and Madison/Evan skating absolutely makes all the difference.

 

[shuilee]

In the case of a tie, what happens?

I think the first tiebreaker is the highest points among two events. Let's say USA and JPN are currently tied after 2 days of competition. The first tiebreaker is currently 20 points for both teams.

USA = 10 (Free Dance) + 10 (Rhythm Dance) = 20 points
JPN = 10 (Men's SP) + 10 (Pairs SP) = 20 points

The second tiebreaker is based on the combined total scores on those 2 events. USA would win the tiebreaker as of right now, because their Free Dance + Rhythm Dance combined score is higher than Japan's Men's SP + Pairs SP combined score.

If USA and JPN are tied tomorrow at the very end, I think the Men's LP winner would have a huge advantage winning the second tiebreaker.

It effectively means whomever wins the Men's LP will win the tiebreaker for gold.

 

[Karen-W]

I can cross stitch, but I never have time. I've been working on the same project for literally years.

Same. I have a Christmas tree skirt for my mother that I've not finished in at least 15, maybe 20 years. So long she's finally quit asking about it.

 

[Theatregirl1122]

I think the first tiebreaker is the highest points among two events. Let's say USA and JPN are currently tied after 2 days of competition. The first tiebreaker is currently 20 points for both teams.

USA = 10 (Free Dance) + 10 (Rhythm Dance) = 20 points
JPN = 10 (Men's SP) + 10 (Pairs SP) = 20 points

The second tiebreaker is based on the combined total scores on those 2 events. USA would win the tiebreaker as of right now, because their Free Dance + Rhythm Dance combined score is higher than Japan's Men's SP + Pairs SP combined score.

If USA and JPN are tied tomorrow at the very end, I think the Men's LP winner would have a huge advantage winning the second tiebreaker.

It effectively means whomever wins the Men's LP will win the tiebreaker for gold.

The tiebreak is the highest points among two events of different disciplines as far as I know. So right now Japan would win the tiebreaker.

 

[Karen-W]

The tiebreak is the highest points among two events of different disciplines as far as I know. So right now Japan would win the tiebreaker.

But if Ilia wins the FS tomorrow then it becomes Men FS + Dance FD and in that scenario, the US would win.

 

[BaileyCatts]

edited .... never mind ...

 

[Theatregirl1122]

But if Ilia wins the FS tomorrow then it becomes Men FS + Dance FD and in that scenario, the US would win.

Yes, which I said in my post directly previous to that. The comment I was replying to was about right now.

 

[A.H.Black]

Interesting that the US ends up splitting only one discipline. Japan too.

 

[Jammers]

Interesting that the US ends up splitting only one discipline. Japan too.

So much for the team medal not meaning much.

 

[Allskate]

With overinflated scores and helped by uncharacteristic poor skates by better skaters. She's been to Worlds 3 times and still hasn't managed to finish higher than 5th.

I'd still put Isabeau and her World Silver in as the 2nd skater or skate Alysa twice.

Even if you think that Amber is getting overinflated scores, it's not like the judges would suddenly just change that. There are people who think that other women get held up, but that's not going to change, either. I think Isabeau has not just come back from her injury but is skating the best she ever has. But, I don't see a huge bump in her scores and placements.

Even if you want to harp on Worlds, which was the only competition Amber lost last season, only Japanese and American skaters beat her. Isabeau did edge her out, but Amber beat her in the short and long at Nationals last month. This season, Isabeau also has been beaten only by Americans and Japanese. So, the odds are high that Amber and Isabeau would place similarly in the TE FS, but Amber has a higher ceiling due to the triple axel. (I think the biggest wildcard may be whether Lara benefits a lot from skating at home. Her scores have really gone up this season and being at home could help her even more. And Amber will have to skate right after Lara.)

It really is a shame for Isabeau because she is so great. I'm sure any of the European countries would be happy to have her and put her in the TE FS. I hope she has two great skates in the individual event.