The Dance Hall 12: Boston Tea Dance Party

[Finnice]

^^You are right, Orihara does not have Finnish citizenship yet. It is usually a slow process. FFSA is doing what they can, but nothing is sure. Sad, because our others ice dance couples are not at the oly level.

 

[Ikari]

The second Finnish team does not have their citizenship completely sorted as of yet... so there may be a possibility of one extra spot being available, but we will have to wait and see. Are there any other lower level Finnish teams that might take the spot?

No, at least no such pair which would not have same citizenship issue.

 

[PRlady]

I enjoy them so much I’d be happy to write to the Finnish gov and tell them to get a move on. But wouldn’t Orihara have to relinquish Japanese citizenship?

 

[Ikari]

Celine Dion - So many options, in English & French, some better than others (no Titanic, please)

My nightmare is that somebody tries this - "Hey, 'My Heart Will Go On' is a nineties song, lets go with that!"

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

My nightmare is that somebody tries this - "Hey, 'My Heart Will Go On' is a nineties song, lets go with that!"

Celine’s French songs are often better than her English songs, but considering that no one skated to a French Celine Dion song when Worlds was in Montreal, we’re only going to get English Celine and, yes, mostly My Heart Will Go On.

 

[Wyliefan]

Wouldn't they have to add a beat to it for an RD?

 

[beepbeep]

Regarding the 90s themed RD, I have two words:

Lesbian Seagull

 

[Ikari]

Maybe we can appeal to Celine to have it copyright blocked

 

[gkelly]

The rhythm dance will need to use songs that have a strong rhythm and are danceable.

Ballads really won't work, or maybe just for a short slow section in the middle of an otherwise dancy program.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Maybe a team could skate to Weird Al's Alternative Polka?

 

[Debbie S]

Celine’s French songs are often better than her English songs, but considering that no one skated to a French Celine Dion song when Worlds was in Montreal, we’re only going to get English Celine and, yes, mostly My Heart Will Go On.

Bratti/Somerville's FD was to a French Celine song, but they did not qualify for the FD.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Bratti/Somerville's FD was to a French Celine song, but they did not qualify for the FD.

Ah right. It's really too bad they didn't make the FD because I remember liking their RD, issues aside.

 

[TanithandBenFan]

Wouldn't they have to add a beat to it for an RD?

There was a report that there's a petition to get rid of the audible beat requirement for this RD.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

There was a report that there's a petition to get rid of the audible beat requirement for this RD.

Power ballads galore here we come!

 

[morqet]

Wouldn't they have to add a beat to it for an RD?

https://x.com/adivinesport/status/1905756153839030566

Nah, the IDTC have decided that Rhythm Dances no longer need rhythms.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

https://x.com/adivinesport/status/1905756153839030566

Nah, the IDTC have decided that Rhythm Dances no longer need rhythms.

If that's the case, they might as well scrap the RD and just have FD1 and FD2. FD1 could be all levelled elements and F2 could have some vibes-based choreo elements.

 

[skategal]

By chance Enigma “Return to Innocence” from 1995 came on the radio yesterday as I was driving the car.

Parts of that song would make a great RD. It seems to have a Rhumba (or rhumba-ish?) beat.

Would just need to add in another faster beat piece that complements it.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

By chance Enigma “Return to Innocence” from 1995 came on the radio yesterday as I was driving the car.

Parts of that song would make a great RD. It seems to have a Rhumba (or rhumba-ish?) beat.

Would just need to add in another faster beat piece that complements it.

Didn't Bourne and Kraatz do an exhibition to that song?

 

[Finnice]

I enjoy them so much I’d be happy to write to the Finnish gov and tell them to get a move on. But wouldn’t Orihara have to relinquish Japanese citizenship?

Yes. But she is willing to do it.

 

[skategal]

Didn't Bourne and Kraatz do an exhibition to that song?

I don’t remember but it rings a bell.

 

[Debbie S]

Didn't Bourne and Kraatz do an exhibition to that song?

I don’t remember but it rings a bell.

- YouTube

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[Former Lurve Goddess]

I don’t remember but it rings a bell.

Found it on YouTube. It occurs to me that many pieces of music that 1990s ice dancers did exhibitions to could be end up in the 90s RD like Grishuk & Platov's exhibition to Madonna's Frozen.

 

[skategal]

Found it on YouTube.

Well it’s settled then.

Piper & Paul need to use it as a Tribute program.

 

[NinjaTurtles]

Power ballads galore here we come!

Presumably the rules will be similar to this year where ISU emphasized that it should be “high energy and entertaining” dance styles of the decade as well as explicitly NOT in classical, contemporary, folk, or ballroom styles of dance.

They were actively trying to discourage slow and lyrical dancing. That doesn’t discourage a power ballad exactly, but I’m not sure it’s in the skaters’ best interests to lean away from fast and fun.

 

[Karen-W]

I'd say that if the power ballad is used in conjunction with a high energy song and if the power ballad is recognizable then the ISU would be fine with that. You could take either of the Celine duets from "Beauty & the Beast" or "Aladdin" and pair it with one or two other high-energy songs from those soundtracks & be just fine. Same with Christina Aguilera's cover of "Reflection" from "Mulan." Not that anyone in the senior ranks is likely to do that, I don't think, lol. But, the point is, Celine, Mariah, Christina, etc - they have a pretty wide range on their albums, so it's totally doable.

 

[tangerine dream]

Yes. But she is willing to do it.

What is the sticking point for her citizenship? Amount of time she's lived in Finland? Finnish language fluency? Something else?

 

[Marta24]

If that's the case, they might as well scrap the RD and just have FD1 and FD2. FD1 could be all levelled elements and F2 could have some vibes-based choreo elements.

Isn't this basically what the ISU wants to do in the future?

 

[thvu]

Yes. But she is willing to do it.

I'm really curious about this if anyone has any experience with this or knowledge of the process – what mechanism forces Orihara to renounce her Japanese Citizenship if granted Finish citizenship? Would the Japanese Government actively revoke her citizenship once Finish citizenship is granted? How does this actually work in practice?

 

[Ikari]

What is the sticking point for her citizenship? Amount of time she's lived in Finland? Finnish language fluency? Something else?

Bureaucratic processing time, Finland is not one of those countries where you get citizenship just by landing a thick wad of bills on the desk. I guess she didn't want to start the process before it was certain Finland gets two Olympic spots?
Also she has to take language fluency test, this might be challenging, although she knows some Finnish already.

 

[Wyliefan]

Here's an article I posted a year ago that gives answers to some of the questions about Orihara's citizenship.

Yuka Orihara, 23, harkitsee luopuvansa Japanin kansalaisuudesta, jotta saisi Suomen passin â taustalla unelma olympialaisista

Jäätanssijat Yuka Orihara ja Juho Pirinen tavoittelevat EM-kisoissa sijoittumista kymmenen parhaan joukkoon. Orihara tiesi jo lapsena, että menestys jäätanssissa vaatii muuttoa pois Japanista.

yle.fi