2024 US Nats Men FS: Succession would be The Impossible Dream but Silver is Up For Grabs

[Rukia]

2024 Prevagen U.S. Figure Skating Championships

Event Results for 2024 Prevagen U.S. Figure Skating Championships

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They did it guys.

3flip e for Naumov.

Not a SINGLE call for Brown.

once again the skating skills are a joke. I'm sorry, but Jason's skating skills have degraded and Ilia's...like I love him for what he is but a beautiful edge worker he is not.

 

[Simone411]

I should have just tuned in around the time the last four competed. This is the first time that I felt like I just wasted precious time.

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[Lanie]

90+ PCS for Ilia is the biggest joke

 

[YourBorneo]

Jason’s popped axel with -1s and 0s for GOE like it was just an average lovely planned single axel.

He has 8 -2s for GOE and that’s as negative as they go for any of his errors.

 

[Jammers]

He won't be working out kinks going to Four Continents. The men's short program begins at 3 am Thursday morning. He's got a little over a week until Art on Ice, and then after that a month to train for Worlds. It's a plan that makes sense.

He had no such excuse last season when 4CC started nine days later and was in the US.

 

[Frau Muller]

I thought he's a jerk

Only when he goes to Art on Ice! Hardeeharharr, morons.

 

[BittyBug]

Not a SINGLE call for Brown.

Criminal.

 

[Rukia]

I do love Jason's skating in theory, but the problem with what he showed up with today is not anywhere near where he's been in the past but he got scored like he always does. Oh well, maybe he'll clean it up before worlds idk.

 

[Wyliefan]

Well, Camden got bronze. I'll just be happy for that.

 

[Karen-W]

if Jason skates like this and the panels aren't feeling friendly he could get buried let's be honest

That's my hope.

I don't think that comparing disaster competitions is helpful. How does this compare to Japanese Nationals?

Ilia silver, rest of the podium 6th (Tomono 271, Tsuboi 252), 5th-9th would have been 9th (Yoshioka 249, Miyake 226). Sooooooo, somewhat comparable-ish. Not where they need to be but not hopeless.

 

[tony]

The sport needs an overhaul. I don’t know any other sport with judges where so much is open to a very loose interpretation of the rules. I’m tired of whining about wrong edges, skating skills (and the lack thereof), skaters who can’t rotate jumps, and ice dancers who have poor basics being scored similar to technicians. Malinin is another in a long line of big jumps (some not even done today) being thrown high PCS. Paniot still deserved mid-4s. There needs to be distinction between the skaters who excel in their areas.

Judge what’s being seen. Both the judges and the tech panels. That’s it. The ‘we only have one camera!’ bullshit is so old.

 

[YourBorneo]

I’ll have what Judge #3 is having.

10s for Jason’s composition and presentation marks. The impossible dream, indeed.

 

[jenny12]

90+ PCS for Ilia is the biggest joke

Agreed. I acknowledge he’s trying to improve and I give him credit for that in spite of the judges’ inflated scores but yes, it is indeed a joke.

Tony’s absolutely right that the sport needs an overhaul because at this point, why even bother scoring PCS?

 

[Baby Yoda On Skates]

Normally skating makes me happy, but now I feel like Tony.

 

[YourBorneo]

The sport needs an overhaul. I don’t know any other sport with judges were so much is open to a very loose interpretation of the rules. I’m tired of whining about wrong edges, skating skills (and the lack thereof), skaters who can’t rotate jumps, and ice dancers who have poor basics being scored similar to technicians. Malinin is another in a long line of big jumps (some not even done today) being thrown high PCS. Paniot still deserved mid-4s. There needs to be distinction between the skaters who excel in their areas.

Judge what’s being seen. Both the judges and the tech panels. That’s it. The ‘we only have one camera!’ bullshit is so old.

Exactly. There’s more than one camera catching views of skaters coming off the ice after their bows. Give me a break!

 

[tony]

Normally skating makes me happy, but now I feel like Tony.

I think a lot of people have seen the light this week. It’s just absurdity.

 

[Rukia]

Normally skating makes me happy, but now I feel like Tony.

lol i'm laughing so hard this is so sad

 

[YourBorneo]

Well, Camden got bronze. I'll just be happy for that.

This! Camden bronze and Naumov pewter so at least there’s some recognition, albeit less than they deserve.

 

[jlai]

It's not the level of skating for me. It was the absolutely awful judging and calling across all 4 disciplines. Has it ever been THIS bad?

I thought the ice dancing juding wasn't too bad, except for holding up the reigning world champ. The teams with good technique moved up

 

[Karen-W]

It's not the level of skating for me. It was the absolutely awful judging and calling across all 4 disciplines. Has it ever been THIS bad?

Fair. I'll join you in being pissed about the calling and judging. My mom didn't even bother calling me after Pairs last night because she remembered I'd told her after the Pairs SP that the old man and little girl were USFS faves.

Dance turned out to be the best judged - mostly because the judges had enough self-respect to give CarPon the FD win after the junk ChoBat delivered.

 

[NinjaTurtles]

I’ll have what Judge #3 is having.

10s for Jason’s composition and presentation marks. The impossible dream, indeed.

1A isn’t “serious”

 

[skatingguy]

Ilia silver, rest of the podium 6th (Tomono 271, Tsuboi 252), 5th-9th would have been 9th (Yoshioka 249, Miyake 226). Sooooooo, somewhat comparable-ish. Not where they need to be but not hopeless.

But Malinin's 294 at US Nationals would have dropped at least 10 points at Japanese Nationals where they don't give those kinds of scores just because you're the favourite. I would say 4th, or maybe 5th depending on the reviews of a few of those jumps.

 

[skateboy]

Jason needs a new program NOW.

Jason needs to retire now.

Or... at least be judged on what he's actually putting on the ice. Max should be going to worlds, not Jason. Jason is no longer a safeguard for USFS and may even be a liability. Max -- and Camden -- are on an upswing and are the ones that should be given more opportunities.

I'm still mad!

 

[Jammers]

That's 2 years in a row that Ilia has struggled in the FP at Nationals really strange.

 

[Evgeniafan]

Naumov was terrific too

He was robbed. No 4CC and no Worlds.

 

[Wyliefan]

Finally, the medal ceremony. I was beginning to think Columbus was just going to have a giant dance party all night long.

 

[Karen-W]

That's 2 years in a row that Ilia has struggled in the FP at Nationals really strange.

He talked about having some boot issues during the winter break so he couldn't get the training time in he had planned.

Better now than at Worlds for him to have an off skate.

 

[BittyBug]

I’ll have what Judge #3 is having.

Where are you seeing the detail by judge? I can only find the rolled up scoring.

 

[Evgeniafan]

Jason needs to retire now.

Or... at least be judged on what he's actually putting on the ice. Max should be going to worlds, not Jason. Jason is no longer a safeguard for USFS and may even be a liability. Max -- and Camden -- are on an upswing and are the ones that should be given more opportunities.

I'm still mad!

I love Jason, but he should not be going to Worlds.

 

[YourBorneo]

Brown’s TES score is 13.52 pts above base value. Allegedly this reflects the quality of the elements.