VGThuy
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What a delay tactic. RUSADA and ROC has more time to conjure up some evidence to support their position.
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By "they", I was referring to RUSADA. This seems like another delay tactic on their part.Why do you think RUSADA knew what they were going to ask for before they asked for it?
How do you even know they're being honest there lolOh. My. God. They're going to get away with this due to a "procedural violation." Those dirty, rotten rats.
That’s what I thought! Schvetsky must be preparing documentation. ?What a delay tactic. RUSADA and ROC has more time to conjure up some evidence to support their position.
Even if there was a procedural error, it didn't harm her in any way. In fact, she's the most unharmed skater-with-a-positive test ever in that she still got to compete the individual event.Related or not?
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Стало известно о нарушении при информировании Валиевой о допинг-пробе
Информирование российской фигуристки Камилы Валиевой о положительной допинг-пробе произошло с процессуальным нарушением, сообщил РИА Новости источник, знакомый... РИА Новости Спорт, 28.09.2023rsport.ria.ru
“Valieva did not receive notification of a positive doping test from WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency). The notification came first to the ISU (International Skating Union) and the IOC (International Olympic Committee), and only after that to (Valieva’s coach) Eteri Tutberidze. This is a procedural matter. violation," the source said.
It's good that they indicated the year...MEDIA RELEASE
FIGURE SKATING
IN THE ARBITRATION PROCEEDINGS INVOLVING RUSADA, THE ISU,WADA AND KAMILA VALIEVA, THE CAS HEARING HAS BEEN ADJOURNED AND WILL RESUME ON 9-10 NOVEMBER 2023
I'd bet a million dollars they aren't being honest, and I don't bet on anything.How do you even know they're being honest there lol
Well, true enough, I just think they're going to find a way to slither their way through this on some dumb "procedural violation" because WADA sent the test results to the IOC/ISU first due to the fact that Valieva was competing in the Olympics. I really hope this is a matter of RUSADA's Disciplinary Commission trying to do its dirty one-day "suspension" and Valieva wasn't notified by them until after the IOC/ISU also was notified because, hello, it was the Olympics and they decided to hold up the medal ceremony once they found out.How do you even know they're being honest there lol
The panel asked for more documentation after whatever was discussed and presented in the meetings.By "they", I was referring to RUSADA. This seems like another delay tactic on their part.
I'm sure they do tbh"Doesn’t every athlete who ever tested positive for drugs wish they had the power that Team Kamila has!" --Meagan Duhamel on Twitter/X an hour ago
I was hesitant to just prescribe this to RUSADA and/or Valieva's team but just given the circumstances, that news piece, and the fact that WADA and the ISU were gung-ho about having this CAS hearing and had been ready since last year but were waiting for RUSADA to have their own hearing (where they delayed in making a decision by November 2022 as they were supposed to and finally did so in January 2023), and were the petitoners/appellants of this case, I would bet that any delays due to needing more documentation to be reviewed did not come from that side.The panel asked for more documentation after whatever was discussed and presented in the meetings.
1. The release said "the parties" and doesn't specify which parties.
2. How would any of "the parties" know ahead of time what additional documentation the panel would ask for and give "the parties" time to procure?
Aint no party like an anti-doping commission partyThe panel asked for more documentation after whatever was discussed and presented in the meetings.
1. The release said "the parties" and doesn't specify which parties.
2. How would any of "the parties" know ahead of time what additional documentation the panel would ask for and give "the parties" time to procure?
For some reason I thought Judge Judy was a comedy show, but apparently it is an "American arbitration-based reality court show". I bet American RTV will make millions if they broadcast this case like some 24x7 Big Brother live stream.This reminds of Judge Judy where a plaintiff or a defendant in a counterclaim says they have text messages showing that the other party made representations to them showing they are liable for their losses, and Judge Judy asks to see the texts, and that party is like "Uh... I just switched phones, I don't have them on me." Except, in this case, it's fantasy land where Judge Judy allowed an adjournment for them to come back and present the text messages even though they already had the hearing date scheduled well ahead of time and knew this was the day to present all the evidence or lose out.
Doesn't this depend on what the documentation is that is being requested? It could be something that any competent lawyer would have anticipated. Or it could be something no one could have anticipated.The panel asked for more documentation after whatever was discussed and presented in the meetings.
1. The release said "the parties" and doesn't specify which parties.
2. How would any of "the parties" know ahead of time what additional documentation the panel would ask for and give "the parties" time to procure?
Oh, the Russian press will make sure we find out. After all, they're the ones who revealed Valieva's identity in the first place.Doesn't this depend on what the documentation is that is being requested? It could be something that any competent lawyer would have anticipated. Or it could be something no one could have anticipated.
I wonder if we'll ever find out.
U.S. Figure Skating CEO Tracy Marek said in a statement to USA TODAY Sports Thursday that the organization “is profoundly disheartened by the news of a delay in the CAS hearing.
“While we recognize the inherent complexities and time requirements of legal processes, the nearly 600-day wait without a resolution is undeniably another painful setback for our dedicated athletes. We emphasize the importance of transparency in this matter, as it greatly impacts our athletes.”
The World Anti-Doping Agency has asked CAS to suspend Valieva for four years and disqualify her Olympic results.
“Due to the confidential nature of the proceedings, WADA is not permitted to comment further on the adjournment announced by the Court of Arbitration for Sport earlier today,” spokesman James Fitzgerald said. “However, as it has done at all stages, it will continue to push for a resolution of these proceedings as quickly as possible.
“WADA took this appeal to CAS in the interests of fairness for athletes and clean sport. Our position in this case has not changed. We maintain that the finding by the disciplinary tribunal of RUSADA that the athlete bore 'no fault or negligence' was wrong under the terms of the World Anti-Doping Code. In accordance with the applicable rules, we continue to seek a four-year period of ineligibility and disqualification of the athlete’s results from the date of the sample collection, including her results during the 2022 Olympic Games in Beijing.”