2022–23 Canadian Men: News and Updates

KEEEEEEEEGAN! I personally don't get all the fuss over Junhwan Cha, so I really want Keegan to replicate his 4CC FP and make it to the podium.
With his program quality this season, the bolded absolutely holds. It's been conniption-inducing to hear the ISU commentators praise those two programs.

I'm hoping Keegan pulls it off. I loved his 4CC free skate.
 
With his program quality this season, the bolded absolutely holds. It's been conniption-inducing to hear the ISU commentators praise those two programs.

I'm hoping Keegan pulls it off. I loved his 4CC free skate.
I would suggest that Keegan and Junhwan appeal to fans with sensibilities at extremely different ends of the spectrum, and that those that think one of these guys is the cats pajamas almost definitely have no interest in the other!

I don’t think I’ve ever met anybody who loves both of them :)
 
I would suggest that Keegan and Junhwan appeal to fans with sensibilities at extremely different ends of the spectrum, and that those that think one of these guys is the cats pajamas almost definitely have no interest in the other!

I don’t think I’ve ever met anybody who loves both of them :)
I'll be kind of the counter to the thought and agree with your first part- I think Keegan has fabulous spins and top-level energy, but his upper body is so stiff and much of his choreography (or lack thereof) is copied from program to program, regardless of the theme or music. The steps into the Lutz are also great.

Junhwan to me is much more of a commanding skater. Aside from the crawling into the 3A, his jumps look so beautiful and he has wonderful air positions. Glorious skating quality all-around, and the program is fun. I prefer the LP, especially the last minute which is just pure perfection in skating IMO.

I don't dislike either of them, but I think from a purist standpoint, Junhwan has that quality while Keegan essentially barrels into everything and hopes for the best (which adds excitement in itself).
 
I don’t think I’ve ever met anybody who loves both of them :)
Really? I think twitter and reddit are filled with them. And I happen to like Cha more than Messing, but I could set it behind with his programs this season, and felt Keegan's LP performance this season was better.
 
Really? I think twitter and reddit are filled with them. And I happen to like Cha more than Messing, but I could set it behind with his programs this season, and felt Keegan's LP performance this season was better.
When I'm on Reddit all I see is people GUSHING over Cha (makes me scared to comment anything about him), while for Keegan, people praise his personality over his skating.
While I do agree there are obviously a lot of nice aspects to Cha's skating, as petty as it is, I've never been able to get over the (IMO) awkward way Cha holds his hands, which is exacerbated by his particular choice in flesh-coloured gloves.

Keegan is similar to Patrick Chan IMO with the way they work the blade, but definitely has more of the 'stiff' upper body, that doesn't lead to lines that are as appealing. However, he definitely has performance on his side, as he always sells everything he's given.

Whether he replicates 4CC or has an 'ice is slippery' skate, I hope Keegan has a blast out there in his FP. And I hope it's a good enough skate to warrant a back flip off the ice. (And that he remembers to bring his phone with him this time for pictures of the noodles!)
 
When I'm on Reddit all I see is people GUSHING over Cha (makes me scared to comment anything about him), while for Keegan, people praise his personality over his skating.
Really? I don't really see it that way I guess. Anyway, I think people can like both. Or dislike both. Or like one of them. IDRC in any of those ways. I just don't wish to see Cha medaling with those programs, probably the worst of his entire career, even including that eurovision crappy R+J and junior Cinderella from 2018-19. Keegan's are better, and his performance at the 4CC was better than anything Cha has ever done, for me.
 
I would suggest that Keegan and Junhwan appeal to fans with sensibilities at extremely different ends of the spectrum, and that those that think one of these guys is the cats pajamas almost definitely have no interest in the other!

I don’t think I’ve ever met anybody who loves both of them :)
I absolutely love both of them too. Some of us who chug beer will also sip champagne as well. It’s not a one or the other thing.
 
Re-posting here from the World Team Trophy thread:
Skate Canada published the assignments:

Men: Messing and Gogolev
...

Top 5 in ISU SB total scores list plus ISU WS rankings after Worlds:
7 Keegan MESSING CAN ISU Four Continents Championships 2023 11/02/2023 275.57 S [WS #8]
33 Conrad ORZEL CAN ISU Four Continents Championships 2023 11/02/2023 226.10 S [WS #104]
34 Roman SADOVSKY CAN ISU GP Skate America 2022 22/10/2022 225.41 S [WS #34]
38 Stephen GOGOLEV CAN ISU GP NHK Trophy 2022 19/11/2022 221.02 S [WS #51]
42 Wesley CHIU CAN ISU GP Skate America 2022 22/10/2022 219.90 S [WS #32]

ETA that Sadovsky & his coach visited the Kansai University rink and Roman trained with Takeshi Honda's team there - photo he posted on March 12: https://www.instagram.com/p/CptrK-NJJep/
 
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I'll be kind of the counter to the thought and agree with your first part- I think Keegan has fabulous spins and top-level energy, but his upper body is so stiff and much of his choreography (or lack thereof) is copied from program to program, regardless of the theme or music. The steps into the Lutz are also great.

Junhwan to me is much more of a commanding skater. Aside from the crawling into the 3A, his jumps look so beautiful and he has wonderful air positions. Glorious skating quality all-around, and the program is fun. I prefer the LP, especially the last minute which is just pure perfection in skating IMO.

I don't dislike either of them, but I think from a purist standpoint, Junhwan has that quality while Keegan essentially barrels into everything and hopes for the best (which adds excitement in itself).
agree
 
Japanese TV channel, NHK, showed a clip about the trip Keegan did to visit his ancestor in Southern part of Japan a day after the Worlds was over.

In 1877, Manzo Nagano (Keegan's great-great grandfather on maternal side) moved to Canada from Nagasaki, Japan, as one of the first immigrants. He was an aspiring 22 years old. Manzo became a successful businessman by exporting salted salmons. He built a foundation in Canada for Japanese immigrants that followed him.

Keegan visited a museum in Minami-Shimabara, Nagasaki, which has a section dedicated to hometown hero and is filled with the resources about Manzo.
Keegan: "He wanted to accomplish things. Something that I can personally understand. I always wanted to push the boundaries of myself on what I can do"

Keegan visited the temple where Manzo's grave is located. There his distant relatives - descendants of Manzo's older brother, were waiting for him. Natsumi, 15 years old who happens to be a figure skating fan, was very much looking forward to seeing him, saying "It is unbelievable to see him in person. We'd like to talk about Manzo-san, too."

Natsumi took Keegan and his mother to the grave Manzo rests.
Keegan: I am lost at words. it's so special to see where everything started and to come back and to honor him."

On the last day of the visit, Keegan was invited by Natsumi to her school gym. She had something that she really wanted to show him. Locals gathered there for him, to play a traditional music, Sezume-Daiko with an ansamble of Japanese drums, which depicts Hayasaki-Seto, one of the three great currents in Japan. The intensity of the drum sound represents the roughness of the sea. Manzo traveled this treacherous sea and opened up his life in Canada.
Keegan:"Wow...I have no words. Thank you"
Natsumi: "Taiko (Japanese drums) literally drums in your heart, so I am glad that our drum sound touched his heart.

Keegan: "It's been incredible to finally see Manzo's grave, to learn what he did in Canada, too see his life and his legacy ...it's making me reflect myself and to see who I am as a person, too. I think I am going to lead with my heart throughout every endeavor of my life."


This tweet shows just a first few minutes of the clip. I hope that they make the entire clip available for overseas fans to see!

ETA: the museum curator mentioned that there is a mountain in Canada named after Manzo - Mt. Manzo Nagano. I googled and found this clip - Steve Nagano, Manzo's great-grandson, who had climbed that mountain, was talking about that experience.
 
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Roman Sadovsky's latest vlog (April 27, 2023) - "Gearing up for the new season!": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JvWy2gOFgg
He talks about training in Japan for 10 days (he worked with Takeshi Honda).
Roman's post today: https://www.instagram.com/p/CsJnl1BOazU/
Made some magic this week! ✨⭐🔥 Had an amazing week at @iceacademyofmontreal Thank you Marie-France and Sam for such an incredible creative process. 🎨 Can’t wait to show off the new SP!!!
 
Japanese TV channel, NHK, showed a clip about the trip Keegan did to visit his ancestor in Southern part of Japan a day after the Worlds was over.
They heard us! :respec:
You can watch the clip about Keegan's visit to the hometown of his great-great-grandfather in Japan here (at 00:23:00 mark):

 
They heard us! :respec:
You can watch the clip about Keegan's visit to the hometown of his great-great-grandfather in Japan here (at 00:23:00 mark):

That's amazing that they made a news special about Keegan and his mother's trip to connect with their ancestral roots. How exciting that his distant cousin also loves skating. Thanks for sharing this.
 
Stephen Gogolov was in New Jersey this past week working with Benoit Richaud - his fan account tweeted this video of "Stephen skating to Arvo Pärt's Fratres and Hans Zimmer's No Time For Caution (from Interstellar)": https://twitter.com/gogogogolev_/status/1661815890944335872

(It's not known for which program yet so I'm putting this here for now rather than in the Programs/Choreographers thread.)
 
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Keegan's official retirement announcement today:
 

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