The Heir, The Spare and the “Baby Brain” -The Prince Harry and Meghan show rumbles on…

[Karen-W]

It doesn’t matter what day the birthday party is on.

Parents want to be with their children on their birthdays. They just do.

All I’m saying is Charles could have picked another day.

What would they do if Charles said he wasn’t going to do the Coronation on May 6th?

Not let him be King?

Charles was hardly the only person involved in the conversation about the coronation date. Yes, he could have vetoed Archie's birthday, but we don't know what other events were already scheduled for Westminster Abbey or various people who need to be present at the coronation.

Sometimes, unfortunately, a less than ideal date is the only really good one and choices have to be made.

 

[canbelto]

They could always have the party for Archie on another day.

 

[airgelaal]

Probably athletes should refuse to compete on the birthdays of their children. coaches should refuse too. Olympic Games? Was it so difficult to schedule the competition for another day? Let them go to hell! birthday is more important

 

[skategal]

They could always have the party for Archie on another day.

I already said that above.

It’s not about the party date.

It’s about Harry and Meghan wanting to be with Archie on his birthday.

 

[skategal]

Probably athletes should refuse to compete on the birthdays of their children. coaches should refuse too. Olympic Games? Was it so difficult to schedule the competition for another day? Let them go to hell! birthday is more important

Please tell me what athlete has control of the dates of the Olympics in which they will compete?

The King can veto dates for his own coronation.

 

[Jenny]

They could always have the party for Archie on another day.

Exactly. A lot easier to move a party for a 4 year old than the coronation of the King of England.

It's beyond naive to think that Charles just plucked this day out of thin air, and that he can "easily" pick another day. It's the most important day of his life, a day that will be recorded in history for heaven's sake, involving countless officiants and other key participants, and it's planned in coordination with the British government and the Church of England, and no doubt the city of London as well given the processions and allowances for wellwishers.

And if the wish of Meghan and Harry to be with their son on his birthday is more important than all of that, then they truly are the most self centred people on the planet.

And I'm not saying they are, because for all we know they've told their son that his birthday is going to be extra special this year because his grandfather is being crowned King and he gets to go to London be part of it. I'm thinking 4 year old me would have been a lot more excited about that than having some cake with a few other kids at home.

 

[canbelto]

I already said that above.

It’s not about the party date.

It’s about Harry and Meghan wanting to be with Archie on his birthday.

I mean ... in real life most parents have to work on their kids birthdays, and they might get home really late from work and be too tired to do much.
I don't see this as a big deal.

 

[skategal]

Exactly. A lot easier to move a party for a 4 year old than the coronation of the King of England.

It's beyond naive to think that Charles just plucked this day out of thin air, and that he can "easily" pick another day. It's the most important day of his life, a day that will be recorded in history for heaven's sake, involving countless officiants and other key participants, and it's planned in coordination with the British government and the Church of England, and no doubt the city of London as well given the processions and allowances for wellwishers.

And if the wish of Meghan and Harry to be with their son on his birthday is more important than all of that, then they truly are the most self centred people on the planet.

And I'm not saying they are, because for all we know they've told their son that his birthday is going to be extra special this year because his grandfather is being crowned King and he gets to go to London be part of it. I'm thinking 4 year old me would have been a lot more excited about that than having some cake with a few other kids at home.

I think it’s naive to think they can just up and take the kids over to London in the midst of this spectacle with the animosity towards them still very fresh in the public’s eye and with the history of death threats.

And no, they aren’t selfish to want to be with their child on his birthday.

Charles is selfish to make Harry choose.

You really think Charles had no control over the date of his own Coronation?

That he didn’t go in with a mist already prepared with a list of special dates he wouldn’t do it on?

 

[airgelaal]

By the way, when was the last time the king saw his grandson? Did he even see his granddaughter?

 

[skategal]

I mean ... in real life most parents have to work on their kids birthdays, and they might get home really late from work and be too tired to do much.
I don't see this as a big deal.

But this is like your father putting the most critical meeting of the year out of town on your kid’s birthday when he could have chosen not to.

 

[canbelto]

But this is like your father putting the most critical meeting of the year out of town on your kid’s birthday when he could have chosen not to.

Or .. Archie can go with them to London. He's 4.

 

[skategal]

Or .. Archie can go with them to London. He's 4.

Not easy to do either in the midst of the Coronation when the animosity between the family is very public and there have been death threats against them in the past.

Each decision is a hard one for Harry.

 

[canbelto]

Not easy to do either in the midst of the Coronation when the animosity between the family is very public and there have been death threats against them in the past.

Each decision is a hard one for Harry.

Archie and Lilli went to the Queen's jubilee. They also I believe were flown over when the Queen died.

 

[airgelaal]

Not easy to do either in the midst of the Coronation when the animosity between the family is very public and there have been death threats against them in the past.

Each decision is a hard one for Harry.

Poor Harry. Why should he make all the important decisions in the world? For everyone else, making decisions is so easy...

 

[skategal]

Archie and Lilli went to the Queen's jubilee. They also I believe were flown over when the Queen died.

I think the situation has changed a lot since then (not for the better) with the release of the Netflix documentary and the book.

 

[Karen-W]

Not easy to do either in the midst of the Coronation when the animosity between the family is very public and there have been death threats against them in the past.

Each decision is a hard one for Harry.

Lolololol. You do recall that they have a longterm lease on Frogmore Cottage, which is set in the heart of Windsor Great Park and has security already, right? Trust that if Harry & Meghan and their children came back to the UK for the coronation, even if they only attended a handful of events, they would have 24/7 security, thanks in no small part to Harry's own revelation that he considered the 25 Taliban fighters he killed to be nothing more than "chess pieces".

They could easily fly into Heathrow, whisk themselves to their home nearby with little fanfare, and their children would be kept quite safe from any threats, despite whatever animosity exists that Harry has brought on by his own pen.

 

[skategal]

Lolololol. You do recall that they have a longterm lease on Frogmore Cottage, which is set in the heart of Windsor Great Park and has security already, right? Trust that if Harry & Meghan and their children came back to the UK for the coronation, even if they only attended a handful of events, they would have 24/7 security, thanks in no small part to Harry's own revelation that he considered the 25 Taliban fighters he killed to be nothing more than "chess pieces".

They could easily fly into Heathrow, whisk themselves to their home nearby with little fanfare, and their children would be kept quite safe from any threats, despite whatever animosity exists that Harry has brought on by his own pen.

I think he made things a 1000 times messier and harder by the Netflix special and book.

 

[miffy]

I’m at the idea Harry will go to the coronation. He has made it pretty clear what he thinks of ‘The Institution’, and I can’t see him wanting to so publicly kneel, honour, pledge allegiance, etc. which it seems he would have to do if he went (unless he renounced his titles first I guess which seems very unlikely).

I doubt he’d be invited now anyway. He’d get booed and people would insist it is a security risk. Officials and possibly the government could advise against it.
He’d get a story or two out of not being invited for the next book or tv show anyway.

 

[skategal]

I’m at the idea Harry will go to the coronation. He has made it pretty clear what he thinks of ‘The Institution’, and I can’t see him wanting to so publicly kneel, honour, pledge allegiance, etc. which it seems he would have to do if he went (unless he renounced his titles first I guess which seems very unlikely).

I doubt he’d be invited now anyway. He’d get booed and people would insist it is a security risk. Officials and possibly the government could advise against it.

I agree. At this point I think he’s better off to stay away.

I 100% agree with his right to do a documentary and book but he can’t expect to just show up again as if all is well and nothing was said.

 

[airgelaal]

Judging by the quotes from the book, for Harry, his wife and children are his main priority. The feelings of his father and brother are not important to him at all. Then why would he go to the coronation? To ruin such an important day?

 

[Karen-W]

Oh, this is brilliant and hilarious.

https://archive.vn/gcGGf

 

[puglover]

William and Catherine seem to have a much happier family life than Charles and Diana and hopefully Charlotte and Louis will grow up much more secure in themselves and helped to find a place - probably not as working royals. William and Kate seemed most happy living at Anmer with William flying rescue helicopter missions. He had to give that up as he is the heir. Not always enviable to be the one who can't walk away.

 

[Spikefan]

I’m relying on Louis to spill all the beans thirty years from now. I may be dead though.

 

[skategal]

I’m relying on Louis to spill all the beans thirty years from now. I may be dead though.

You gotta think someone will do it at some point, right?

The other one I’m waiting on is The Duggars tell all.

 

[MacMadame]

Omg, of course not! They will stay sealed in their boxes until release day. There are pretty hefty fines for unsealing a book like this. When the other Harry was all the rage, we had to keep those boxes sealed until midnight. At least we got to have fun parties and dress up for those occasions - there are no such plans for this release.

There were a few times when people put out those Harry books early too. It happens.

That's it, I will no longer write on this topic.

Good!

Probably athletes should refuse to compete on the birthdays of their children. coaches should refuse too. Olympic Games? Was it so difficult to schedule the competition for another day? Let them go to hell! birthday is more important

Oh, you were kidding.

 

[Badams]

All of this stuff seems so trivial and stupid for regular humans to be fighting over and getting all bent out of shape over. But I won't pretend I don't enjoy reading this thread.

 

[marbri]

I think it’s naive to think they can just up and take the kids over to London in the midst of this spectacle with the animosity towards them still very fresh in the public’s eye and with the history of death threats.

And no, they aren’t selfish to want to be with their child on his birthday.

Charles is selfish to make Harry choose.

You really think Charles had no control over the date of his own Coronation?

That he didn’t go in with a mist already prepared with a list of special dates he wouldn’t do it on?

Did they not bring both kids to London for the Queens Jubilee? During Lilibet's birthday and had a little party for her there?

 

[skategal]

Did they not bring both kids to London for the Queens Jubilee? During Lilibet's birthday and had a little party for her there?

I think the situation has deteriorated significantly since then.

 

[caseyedwards]

Beat him up agein!

 

[MacMadame]

All of this stuff seems so trivial and stupid for regular humans to be fighting over and getting all bent out of shape over. But I won't pretend I don't enjoy reading this thread.

Yeah, most of the here is making all sorts of assumptions about what various people involved said and did and are thinking and feeling.

I'm a parent and I wouldn't care about spending the entire day with my pre-schooler (or younger) kid on their birthday. When my son turned three, we moved 500 miles. I think we had the party on his birthday but it might have been the day after because his birthday was on a Friday. See... it was so unimportant to me that I don't even remember the exact details. He was three. He didn't know what day of the week it was let alone what day his birthday was on. The party was for us and his grandparents mostly.

That said, I find it hard to believe that they had to schedule the coronation on that day.

But we don't know why or what was said about it.