2022-23 ISU Grand Prix Assignments are published

[Vagabond]

Could it be visa issues?

I doubt that she followed her siblings' example and surrendered her U.S. citizenship. As for him, who know?

 

[ostile17]

Gold & Silver most likely. Bronze? I would bet on political pull from ISU/JapanFed to feed into Project KanaDai getting some momentum this fall… assuming no glaring errors in twizzles or dropping partner.

Oh don't worry, if it's not Marina politicking for KanaDai it sure won't ne JSF

 

[Frau Muller]

Maybe wait until KanaDai make their season debut before passing judgment on whether or not they are being "propped up," mmmkay?

…

Nope. I’ve (we’ve) got it all figured out.

 

[airgelaal]

Not for her since she's a US citizen, and it would surprise me for him since they were training in the US before they moved to IAM last year.

Maybe he somehow violated the visa rules and now it is difficult for him to get a visa again?

 

[Andrea82]

Daleman assigned to Sheffield

https://www.isu.org/docman-documents-links/isu-files/event-documents/figure-skating-4/2022-23-4/grand-prix-3/entries-7/29098-entries-women-2022-23/file

 

[Karen-W]

Daleman assigned to Sheffield

https://www.isu.org/docman-documents-links/isu-files/event-documents/figure-skating-4/2022-23-4/grand-prix-3/entries-7/29098-entries-women-2022-23/file

And they FINALLY crossed Ryabova out for NHK, lol. NHK has 3 Koreans & Americans in addition to their 3 Japanese women, so this might be Kiibus' best chance at getting a 2nd assignment. There are exactly 10 women left on the entire alternates list who aren't Japanese, Korean or American, lol. But, just watch, they'll invite Schumacher or Serna.

Women - 1 open spot at NHK
Kiibus (Espoo)
Yun (SkAm)
Wi (NHK)
Park (SkAm)
Yokoi (SCI)
Kitromilis (SkAm)
Paganini (MKJW)
Izzo (MKJW)
Ziegler (none)
Brezinova (SCI)

Next to be added:
Ji (NHK)
Zhu (SkAm)
Serna (GPdF)
Wang (none)
Sauter (MKJW)
Peltonen (Espoo)
Saarinen (Espoo)
Schumacher (SCI)
Watanabe (none)

 

[Frau Muller]

And they FINALLY crossed Ryabova out for NHK, lol. NHK has 3 Koreans & Americans in addition to their 3 Japanese women, so this might be Kiibus' best chance at getting a 2nd assignment. There are exactly 10 women left on the entire alternates list who aren't Japanese, Korean or American, lol. But, just watch, they'll invite Schumacher or Serna.

Women - 1 open spot at NHK
Kiibus (Espoo)
Yun (SkAm)
Wi (NHK)
Park (SkAm)
Yokoi (SCI)
Kitromilis (SkAm)
Paganini (MKJW)
Izzo (MKJW)
Ziegler (none)
Brezinova (SCI)

Next to be added:
Ji (NHK)
Zhu (SkAm)
Serna (GPdF)
Wang (none)
Sauter (MKJW)
Peltonen (Espoo)
Saarinen (Espoo)
Schumacher (SCI)
Watanabe (none)

And still no place for Rinka Watanabe? Not that I want anybody to become indisposed…but perhaps Rika Kihira will take time off to properly heal, opting out of her two assignments (Canada and Finland)?

 

[Karen-W]

And still no place for Rinka Watanabe? Not that I want anybody to become indisposed…but perhaps Rika Kihira will get some time to heal and opt out of her two assignments (Canada and Finland)?

It doesn't work that way.

1) Challenger winners are placed at the very bottom of the alternates list, so she won't make it onto the Top 10 Alternates list for consideration by a host until/unless currently assigned skaters withdraw from another 9 assignments.

2) Japan is maxed out at SCI, GPdF, NHK, and Espoo, so those 9 withdrawals would need to be either from SkAm, MKJW or one of the currently assigned Japanese women at SCI, GPdF, NHK or Espoo.

So, the chances of Watanabe getting a GP assignment are almost zero in the first place, and even if she DID wind up on the the Top 10 Alternates list for consideration, she still isn't likely to be any host organizers choice because, hello, she just beat the reigning WC and she has a 3A. She is going to have to fight and claw her way onto the GP next season, but don't hold your breath on it this season.

 

[Frau Muller]

It doesn't work that way.

1) Challenger winners are placed at the very bottom of the alternates list, so she won't make it onto the Top 10 Alternates list for consideration by a host until/unless currently assigned skaters withdraw from another 9 assignments.

2) Japan is maxed out at SCI, GPdF, NHK, and Espoo, so those 9 withdrawals would need to be either from SkAm, MKJW or one of the currently assigned Japanese women at SCI, GPdF, NHK or Espoo.

So, the chances of Watanabe getting a GP assignment are almost zero in the first place, and even if she DID wind up on the the Top 10 Alternates list for consideration, she still isn't likely to be any host organizers choice because, hello, she just beat the reigning WC and she has a 3A. She is going to have to fight and claw her way onto the GP next season, but don't hold your breath on it this season.

Oh, I just knew that you’d slam me down with The Rules, LOL! Was waiting for it.

Seriously, though. Rules aside (for a minute)…just look at that roster and see who got two (2) assignments…yet the skater who beat the current World Champ one week ago can’t go? And Rinka’s win at Lombardia was not a miraculous Kitromilis/2021AutumnTrophy type of win. And it wasn’t just by one or two points either.

 

[Sylvia]

I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks the current GP selection rule re. ISU Challenger winners s*cks.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Daleman assigned to Sheffield

https://www.isu.org/docman-documents-links/isu-files/event-documents/figure-skating-4/2022-23-4/grand-prix-3/entries-7/29098-entries-women-2022-23/file

Oh OK, I’m happy for that. I still love her jumps even though she’s having problems. I’m happy to see her twice in the series

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

And still no place for Rinka Watanabe? Not that I want anybody to become indisposed…but perhaps Rika Kihira will take time off to properly heal, opting out of her two assignments (Canada and Finland)?

So where is she? She was so phenomenal last week how come she’s nowhere on the list? Did she not have enough points gathered from being in juniors? Or how could she be so far down the list. And I’m also unfamiliar with her before this year. So did she just pop out of nowhere

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

What is the USA waiting for to decide on its final men’s host spot? And who is there to choose from anymore at the moment? Any chance we could get Matt Savoie in there



And also our last host spot in pairs? We are just under a month until they have to travel to the event

 

[Karen-W]

So where is she? She was so phenomenal last week how come she’s nowhere on the list? Did she not have enough points gathered from being in juniors? Or how could she be so far down the list. And I’m also unfamiliar with her before this year. So did she just pop out of nowhere

Japan didn't send any skaters out on the JGP last season, because of travel & quarantine restrictions, and they didn't send any skaters to the early Challengers either for the same reason, which makes it hard for a skater like Watanabe, who wasn't even competitive domestically the last few seasons, to even get on the 2020-21 SB Top 75 list, which would have made her eligible for any assignments.

As it is, it's the beginning of a new quad, so she has plenty of time to get GP assignments and build up her rep before Milano 2026.

 

[Karen-W]

What is the USA waiting for to decide on its final men’s host spot? And who is there to choose from anymore at the moment? Any chance we could get Matt Savoie in there



And also our last host spot in pairs? We are just under a month until they have to travel to the event

Men and Women’s host spots have already been announced, a few weeks ago - Eric Sjoberg and Gracie Gold. Pairs is, unofficially, Plazas/Fernandez. They were the the top US team without a GP assignment at John Nicks Pairs Challenge and US Classic last week, and their coach, Jim Peterson, had an IG post announcing they had been assigned to SkAm, but it's not confirmed on the USFS' International Assignments page yet.

 

[Sylvia]

What is the USA waiting for to decide on its final men’s host spot?

Eric Sjoberg's name was listed by USFS on Sept. 7th: https://usfigureskatingfanzone.com/...23-international-assignments-and-results.aspx

And Eric Sjoberg has been given the SkAm host spot that was TBD!

 

[azcalder]

Well, she did just win a Challenger, so that puts her at the bottom of the alternates list... I'm not sure how likely it is for her to wind up with one though since there would have to be about 10 spots open up in order for her to make it onto the Alternates Top 10 list.
Women - 1 open spot at MKJW, 1 open spot at NHK, FRA TBD @GPdF
Kiibus (Espoo)
Yun (SkAm)
Wi (NHK)
Park (SkAm)
Yokoi (SCI)
Kitromilis (SkAm)
Paganini (MKJW)
Izzo (MKJW)
Daleman (SCI)
Ziegler (none)

Next to be added:
Brezinova (SCI)
Ji (NHK)
Zhu (SkAm)
Serna (GPdF)
Wang (none)
Sauter (MKJW)
Peltonen (Espoo)
Saarinen (Espoo)
Schumacher (SCI)
Watanabe (none)



Not for her since she's a US citizen, and it would surprise me for him since they were training in the US before they moved to IAM last year.

Saul moved to the US in 2014 to skate with American Taylor Tran for Lithuania. I can't believe it's a visa issue.

 

[Frau Muller]

Sjoberg is no longer on the ISU Men’s list:
Just link from the ISU site.

https://www.isu.org/docman-documents-links/isu-files/event-documents/figure-skating-4/2022-23-4/grand-prix-3/entries-7/29097-entries-men-2022-23/file

It was there last week…before this one, dated Sept 15.

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

Just noticed poor Tomoki - one week in Sheffield, the next in Sapporo

 

[Sylvia]

ISU's Men GP grid is dated Sept. 15.

USFS' International Assignments page was last updated on Sept. 19 and Sjoberg is still listed for SkAm:

2022-23 International Assignments and Results

2022-23 International Assignments and Results

usfigureskatingfanzone.com

 

[Gris]

Laurin / Ethier now assigned to Skate America.

Pairs grid

 

[Sylvia]

Laurin / Ethier now assigned to Skate America.

Pairs grid

And Plazas/Fernandez (USA) are finally on the grid in the SkAm host spot!

Ditto for Eric Sjoberg: https://www.isu.org/docman-document...ix-3/entries-7/29097-entries-men-2022-23/file

 

[Karen-W]

Laurin / Ethier now assigned to Skate America.

Pairs grid

Well, now, that's an interesting twist. Theory being that any team that competes in a Challenger and earns the total score minimum will be added to the Pairs alternates list since there are only 3 teams currently eligible for selection from last season's SB Top 75 list.

 

[allezfred]

Just noticed poor Tomoki - one week in Sheffield, the next in Sapporo

Leave on the Monday morning and he’ll be there on the Tuesday afternoon. He’s young and will be fine.

 

[RoseRed]

Well, now, that's an interesting twist. Theory being that any team that competes in a Challenger and earns the total score minimum will be added to the Pairs alternates list since there are only 3 teams currently eligible for selection from last season's SB Top 75 list.

Which would mean Mokhova/Mokhov and Wessenberg/Eisenach are also now on the list (if I'm remembering the GP minimum correctly).

 

[Carolla5501]

Saul moved to the US in 2014 to skate with American Taylor Tran for Lithuania. I can't believe it's a visa issue.

Why not? Visas are only good for a certain amount of time. Once it expired then then you would have to get a new one and right now it’s a long wait to get them updated and renewed

 

[Karen-W]

Which would mean Mokhova/Mokhov and Wessenberg/Eisenach are also now on the list (if I'm remembering the GP minimum correctly).

Yes, the pairs total score minimum is 132.65. The GP selection document states that Challenger winners are added to the bottom of the alternates list, so going with that same logic, in order to increase the pairs alternates list they are adding all pairs teams who meet the total score minimum at US Classic, Nebelhorn or Finlandia to the bottom of the alternates list, highest score to lowest score.

Pairs - 1 CAN TBD @SCI
1) Holichenko/Darenskiy UKR (55) (Espoo)
2) Chernyshova/Windsor AUS (60) (NHK)
3) Crafoord/Crafoord SWE (63) (SkAm)
4) Plazas/Fernandez USA 166.25 (SkAm)
5) Mokhova/Mokhov USA 161.29 (none)
6) Laurin/Ethier CAN 150.81 (SkAm & SCI)
7) Wessenberg/Eisenach 138.22 USA (none)

Teams that do not have the Total Score Minimum for GP assignments but are scheduled to compete at Nebelhorn or Finlandia:
8) Vaipan-Law/Digby GBR (64) 132.56 (MKJW host spot - Finlandia)
9) Osipova/Epstein NED (69) 119.00 (Nebelhorn - scored 149.24 at non-CS Lombardia)
10) Simioli/Zarbo ITA (75) - not competing this season
11) Piegad/Strekalin FRA (Nebelhorn)
12) Efimova/Blommaert GER (Nebelhorn)
13) Valesi/Piazza ITA (Nebelhorn - scored 151.42 at non-CS Lombardia)
14) Yunoki/Ichihashi JPN (Nebelhorn)
15) Gamez/Korovin PHI (Finlandia)

 

[PRlady]

And Plazas/Fernandez (USA) are finally on the grid in the SkAm host spot!

Ditto for Eric Sjoberg: https://www.isu.org/docman-document...ix-3/entries-7/29097-entries-men-2022-23/file

So happy to see that Avengers program in person.

 

[Karen-W]

Eva-Lotte Kiibus got the open NHK spot!!!!!!!

https://isu.org/docman-documents-links/isu-files/event-documents/figure-skating-4/2022-23-4/grand-prix-3/entries-7/29098-entries-women-2022-23/file

Men - current Alternates should another spot open up (note JPN is maxed out at every event except SCI where they only have 2 men)
Miyake (SkAm)
Frangipani (NHK)
A. Selevko (SCI)
S. Lee (GPdF)
Shimada (MKJW)
Zandron (NHK)
Egadze (NHK)
Honda (Espoo)
Reshtenko (GPdF)
Orzel (SCI)

Next to be added:
Levandi (Espoo)
Majorov (Espoo)
Britschgi (SCI)
Carrillo (SkAm)
Shmuratko (GPdF)
Starostin (none)
Circelli (MKJW)
Sjoberg (SkAm)
Kapeikis (SkAm)
Newberry (MKJW)
Guarino Sabate (none)

Women - current Alternates should another spot open up (note JPN maxed out at SCI, GPdF, NHK & Espoo; KOR maxed out at SkAm & NHK; USA maxed out at SkAm, MKJW & NHK)
Kiibus (NHK & Espoo)
Yun (SkAm)
Wi (NHK)
Park (SkAm)
Yokoi (SCI)
Kitromilis (SkAm)
Paganini (MKJW)
Izzo (MKJW)
Ziegler (none)
Brezinova (SCI)
Ji (NHK)

Next to be added:
Zhu (SkAm)
Serna (GPdF)
Wang (none)
Sauter (MKJW)
Peltonen (Espoo)
Saarinen (Espoo)
Schumacher (SCI)
Watanabe (none)

Pairs - 1 CAN TBD @SCI
Holichenko/Darenskiy UKR (55) (Espoo)
Chernyshova/Windsor AUS (60) (NHK)
Crafoord/Crafoord SWE (63) (SkAm)
Osipova/Epstein NED (69) (none - earned Pairs total score min at Nebelhorn 2022)
Efimova Blommaert GER 186.17 (none)
Plazas/Fernandez USA 166.25 (SkAm)
Mokhova/Mokhov USA 161.29 (none)
Valesi/Piazza ITA 150.96 (none)
Yunoki/Ichihashi JPN 140.46 (none)
Piegad/Strekalin FRA 138.36 (GPdF)

Next to be added:
Wessenberg/Eisenach 138.22 USA (none)

Teams that do not have the Total Score Minimum for GP assignments but are scheduled to compete at Finlandia:
Vaipan-Law/Digby GBR (64) 132.56 (MKJW host spot)
Gamez/Korovin PHI

Dance - current Alternates should another spot open up (note USA maxed out at every event except GPdF where they only have 2 teams; CAN maxed out at SCI & MKJW)
Bratti/Somerville (SCI)
Fabbri/Ayer (MKJW)
Pate/Bye (GPdF)
Lanaghan/Razgulajevs (GPdF)
Janse van Rensburg/Steffan (SkAm)
Lauriault/Le Gac (SkAm)
Cesanek/Yehorov (SCI)
Lagouge/Caffa (Espoo)
Sales/Wamsteeker (MKJW)
Ling/Wein (none)

Next up to be added:
Nosovitskaya/Nosovitskiy (SCI)
McNamara/Spiridonov (SkAm)
Chen/Sun (none)
Portesi Peroni/Chrastecky (none)
Polibina/Golovishnikov (none)
Ignateva/Szemko (none)

 

[Sylvia]

Announced today (Sept. 23) by USFS:

2022 Grand Prix Selections Finalized - U.S. Figure Skating Fan Zone

Team USA's roster for the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Series 2022 is set after the final two athletes have been selected for 2022 Skate America.

usfigureskatingfanzone.com

Team USA's roster for the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Series 2022 is set after the final two athletes have been selected for 2022 Skate America.
In addition to Gracie Gold in women's and Lorraine McNamara and Anton Spiridonov in ice dance, Eric Sjoberg and Valentina Plazas and Maximiliano Fernandez have been added to the Skate America lineup in men's and pairs, respectively.