RIP HM Queen Elizabeth II

[kedrin]

I'm not religious either and I agree.

Likewise.

 

[skatfan]

I don't know what was done in Edinburgh to mark the death of previous sovereigns, but the late Queen was the first reigning monarch to die on Scottish soil since James V in 1542! I am glad that Scotland's capital city had good weather so that those who wanted to turn out could do so.

And she died a Presbyterian. We’ll take her on loan but give her back to the Church of England.

 

[victorskid]

For anyone interested - the Order of Service from today's Service of Thanksgiving at St. Giles' Cathedral: https://www.royal.uk/.../files/media/order_of_service_1.pdf
The YouTube video of the service: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxsny_z6cBQ

 

[victorskid]

And she died a Presbyterian. We’ll take her on loan but give her back to the Church of England.

It is more properly referred to as the Church of Scotland, of course

 

[miffy]

I’m very impressed @Louis that you saw the King and Queen Consort without even trying!

I was impressed with Boris and Theresa’s speeches too, and loved the cheese story

I think it’s a bit confusing about the uniforms. I do remember Edward was the only one at the Queen Mother’s funeral in a suit, but now he is allowed uniform. At least there are two of them not in uniform now so it won’t be as bad, and I guess it’s not the most important thing on their minds now

 

[Judy]

Diana's funeral was incredibly sad as she was so young, but Elizabeth's is a celebration of a long life well lived. Rest faithful servant is so appropriate.

Diana was devastating. I sobbed through it all . The Queen is different in that respect but sad too.

 

[skatfan]

It is more properly referred to as the Church of Scotland, of course

Correct!

 

[MsZem]

Kind of funny that the two not allowed to wear the uniform for all events are the only members of the immediate royal family who actually partook in wartime service (Andrew in the Falklands War, Harry in Afghanistan), whereas the others didn't see any actual combat.

Of course, it is possible to make a meaningful contribution in non-combat military service (see for example William's search and rescue work).

 

[attyfan]

People are leaving all sorts of tributes, but the palace wants some of them to end:

The sweet tribute to Queen Elizabeth II which is leaving an aftertaste - Royal Central

It’s become a popular way of saying farewell to Queen Elizabeth II in the days since her death but now those looking after the tributes beig left at royal palaces have advised well wishers to...

royalcentral.co.uk

 

[AYS]

RIP Queen Elizabeth, following an extraordinary life well lived.

Condolences to our UK FSUers and all who mourn her passing.

 

[Cachoo]

People are leaving all sorts of tributes, but the palace wants some of them to end:

The sweet tribute to Queen Elizabeth II which is leaving an aftertaste - Royal Central

It’s become a popular way of saying farewell to Queen Elizabeth II in the days since her death but now those looking after the tributes beig left at royal palaces have advised well wishers to...

royalcentral.co.uk

Yep....I bet she'd rather she donations honoring her to animal welfare groups. But the flowers are impressive.

 

[Pink Cats]

Yep....I bet she'd rather she donations honoring her to animal welfare groups. But the flowers are impressive.

Or maybe donate the flowers to a local hospice or continuing care home in her name so that someone gets pleasure from them, rather than let them rot.

 

[Judy]

Or maybe donate the flowers to a local hospice or continuing care home in her name so that someone gets pleasure from them, rather than let them rot.

I think the palace does that.

 

[SHARPIE]

That’s kind of a surreal sight on TV. Watching King Charles etc in quiet contemplation around the Queen’s coffin while the public walk by.


It’s been a long day for the King, especially for a man of his age,

 

[Frau Muller]

I’m now watching the vigil at St Gilles church, with King Charles III and his three siblings standing guard around the coffin.

Princess Anne, in uniform, is among them. We’re told that, until now, no female has been allowed to do this.

Also of note: Andrew is not allowed to wear his uniform…just civilian clothing with a couple of medals pinned. He looks like a naughty student forced to wear a dunce cap!

 

[miffy]

I think the palace does that.

They are going to turn them into compost, that’s why they want the plastic off. The public are helping unwrap them. If I was in London I think I’d go join in with that.

 

[miffy]

I’m pretty sure Anne stood in vigil for the Queen Mother? Am I misremembering?

 

[SHARPIE]

I’m pretty sure Anne stood in vigil for the Queen Mother? Am I misremembering?

Can’t remember, I was getting married 1st time round then.

 

[Parsley Sage]

I’m pretty sure Anne stood in vigil for the Queen Mother? Am I misremembering?

No, she walked behind the casket in the procession to Westminister Abbey but the vigil was Charles, Andrew, Edward and David Linley (Princess Margaret's son)

 

[victorskid]

I think the palace does that.

On this occasion they will be displayed, then composted (after removing cellophane, etc.) and used on Royal Parks.

 

[overedge]

Thank you for posting the service leaflet, @victorskid - I never would have found it on my own.

 

[Allskate]

Only working members of Royal Family will wear military uniform for ceremonial events honouring The Queen over next week, but there's a bit of a double standard happening:

As a non-working member of the family, Prince Andrew will not wear uniform to above events. However, “as a special mark of respect”, a royal source says he will at the final vigil in Westminster Hall. HOWEVER, Prince Harry will NOT be allowed to wear uniform at any ceremonial events.

Kind of funny that the two not allowed to wear the uniform for all events are the only members of the immediate royal family who actually partook in wartime service (Andrew in the Falklands War, Harry in Afghanistan), whereas the others didn't see any actual combat. IMO they are bot non-working members, both have lost their titles, so should be treated equally in their right to a uniform (whether all events, none, or just the final vigil), the double standard is just wrong to me.

I cannot understand the reasoning for this. This is not what happened when Prince Phillip died.

It is especially baffling that King Charles would seem to treat Prince Harry worse than Prince Andrew. What's the message?

I'm hoping that this report is incorrect. Otherwise, the sentence that King Charles spoke about Harry the other day seems like manipulative farce. Even if King Charles doesn't care about hurting Harry or feeding the attacks on Harry, or even if that is his goal, it seems like a stupid way to start his reign. There are people who are going to compare him unfavorably to his mother. Plus, as much as Harry is maligned for countering media reports (that seem to be fed by the palace), he has exercised some restraint. Humiliating Harry in such a high profile manner would be like challenging him to reveal more.

 

[ballettmaus]

As a non-working member of the family, Prince Andrew will not wear uniform to above events. However, “as a special mark of respect”, a royal source says he will at the final vigil in Westminster Hall. HOWEVER, Prince Harry will NOT be allowed to wear uniform at any ceremonial events.

Why does Andrew deserve a "special mark of respect"? And why would he deserve it and not Harry? Harry didn't socialize with a sex offender.

 

[Deleted member 221]

I walked over to the tribute area in Greek Park this morning. It was already mayhem, and we still have a week to go. People are not following the rules at all. Paddington Bears everywhere, balloons, photos, wrapped flowers, etc. I didn't see any marmalade sandwiches . Hopefully compliance will go up with the increased media messaging.

I did see some people unwrapping flowers. Good on the volunteers, but I'm not going anywhere near the Palace until after this is all over, though. I can't imagine what it will be like on the weekend and Monday.

 

[victorskid]

Why does Andrew deserve a "special mark of respect"? And why would he deserve it and not Harry? Harry didn't socialize with a sex offender.

Perhaps because Andrew is a son and not a grandson - you are talking about protocol.

 

[victorskid]

On the sandwiches topic, there's a tweet from Paddington: https://twitter.com/LittleLostLad/status/1569328539949846530

Hello! Could you maybe deliver those marmalade sandwiches to people who need them rather than leaving them outside a palace? Thanks.

 

[Cachoo]

I cannot understand the reasoning for this. This is not what happened when Prince Phillip died.

It is especially baffling that King Charles would seem to treat Prince Harry worse than Prince Andrew. What's the message?

I'm hoping that this report is incorrect. Otherwise, the sentence that King Charles spoke about Harry the other day seems like manipulative farce. Even if King Charles doesn't care about hurting Harry or feeding the attacks on Harry, or even if that is his goal, it seems like a stupid way to start his reign. There are people who are going to compare him unfavorably to his mother. Plus, as much as Harry is maligned for countering media reports (that seem to be fed by the palace), he has exercised some restraint. Humiliating Harry in such a high profile manner would be like challenging him to reveal more.

Shameful treatment of a veteran. SHAMEFUL.

 

[Karen-W]

Shameful treatment of a veteran. SHAMEFUL.

Except that it's my understanding that in the UK, veterans don't wear their uniforms for public ceremonies. So, neither Andrew nor Harry should be wearing their uniforms since they lost their honorary military appointments when they stepped away from being active working royals.

It isn't shameful, it's just a different way of doing things.

 

[Spikefan]

I have never understood people leaving tributes like this, no matter who it is. It’s always seemed performative. Give to a charity or even to someone on the street who looks like they could use a pick me up and state who it’s in honor of. Hopefully people will start listening to the requests. “Hello, people in the palace have cake. They don’t need your stale sandwiches.”

 

[Cachoo]

Except that it's my understanding that in the UK, veterans don't wear their uniforms for public ceremonies. So, neither Andrew nor Harry should be wearing their uniforms since they lost their honorary military appointments when they stepped away from being active working royals.

It isn't shameful, it's just a different way of doing things.

I strongly disagree.