gkelly
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And would the coaches feel more confident if the skaters were regularly tested? But I don't think we can ask that of young kids.
I've got all the ones who don't actually discuss anything on ignore.I agree @Jozet this was very helpful! And it's still helpful if you just put those newcomers on ignore.
I've got all the ones who don't actually discuss anything on ignore.
I think when coming up with policies, people need to think about what would happen if someone tests positive. If it's a skater, they just don't come to the rink for 2 weeks. But for all the people they come into contact with, is it practical for them to just not come to the rink? If half the employees came into contact with the infected person, that will make it hard for the rink to stay open while they can't work. But for the coach, that means they lose 2 weeks of income!
This is not to say that the rinks shouldn't open until there is a vaccine or good treatment. It's just to say they need to think about these things when creating their procedures. As an example, maybe have rink employees work 14 days on, 14 days off so there are enough to fill in when half of them have to stay home. And coaches might want to team teach with shared revenue if one has to quarantine. Or they may say "no dance holds" even if they are allowed.
P.S. Even though I stopped skating years ago, this thread has been very helpful to me to figure out some logistics for another event I am involved with the planning. That's why I came here in the first place.
I've got all the ones who don't actually discuss anything on ignore.
I think when coming up with policies, people need to think about what would happen if someone tests positive. If it's a skater, they just don't come to the rink for 2 weeks. But for all the people they come into contact with, is it practical for them to just not come to the rink? If half the employees came into contact with the infected person, that will make it hard for the rink to stay open while they can't work. But for the coach, that means they lose 2 weeks of income!
This is not to say that the rinks shouldn't open until there is a vaccine or good treatment. It's just to say they need to think about these things when creating their procedures. As an example, maybe have rink employees work 14 days on, 14 days off so there are enough to fill in when half of them have to stay home. And coaches might want to team teach with shared revenue if one has to quarantine. Or they may say "no dance holds" even if they are allowed.
I honestly don't think some rinks are forward-thinking enough in their strategic planning to address the What-Ifs! And the lack of contact tracing technologies here in the US pose another challenge.
It's also worth keeping in mind that many rinks employ staff that are being paid minimum wage without benefits. It's unclear what protections, if any, rinks are supplying these workers. That's another reason I don't feel comfortable setting foot in a rink—I would hate to put a vulnerable population at risk.
It has been quite clear seeing you are new here that you came onto this forum with an agenda. The people who you dealing with are long time members of the forum who have gotten to know each other over a number of years. So they have earnt respect from those of us who have also been on here for a number of years. We know from our dealings that they are reasonable people who look at the bigger picture but also apply due diligence. Unfortunately if you are new and come on here to seek political mileage for your POV then it isn't going to happen. So don't be surprised you haven't been welcomed with open arms and others may be jumping to the long time members' defence. The rest of us can tell by the conversations that these are local issues that have been brought onto an international forum.I'm sorry that my ability to have a different viewpoint from someone and still be compassionate towards their concerns is so offensive to you. When @MacMadame wrote her post she expressed her viewpoint and said that nothing will change her mind and guess what, that I can understand. When you take the personal attacks away like she did, it becomes a two way conversation where people can disagree and respect at the same time.
I find it fascinating that your entire agenda here is to shove only your viewpoint down everyone's throat and if someone disagrees with you, it's time to attack them. But hey, you do you. I have better things to focus my time and energy on.
This is not to say that the rinks shouldn't open until there is a vaccine or good treatment. It's just to say they need to think about these things when creating their procedures. As an example, maybe have rink employees work 14 days on, 14 days off so there are enough to fill in when half of them have to stay home.
I was thinking that if they worked 14 days in a row, it would be 14 days, not 5 days every week for a total of 10. And maybe more than 8 hours each day. So they'd be getting paid for more than a FT job the days they are on and hopefully, it would make up for the 14 days off.I think the problem with this at my rink would be that they don't have sufficient staff to cover 14 days on and 14 days, plus the staff that currently work there wouldn't want to lose their full time job and turn it into a part time job. While the rinks are closed they will be on 80% pay on furlough (at least until the end of July), if they were covering similar shifts full time for just 14 days they'd drop to 50% of their salary and would be unlikely to make their bills.
I was thinking that if they worked 14 days in a row, it would be 14 days, not 5 days every week for a total of 10. And maybe more than 8 hours each day. So they'd be getting paid for more than a FT job the days they are on and hopefully, it would make up for the 14 days off.
Also, I am not 100% sure if rinks in the US have a lot of FT employees. I get the impression they are mostly PT already like they are in retail and food service.
Going on a different tangent. I am curious how the different clubs/rinks are handling pre-paid fees.
For instance if you prepay for a month of freestyle ice, did you get a refund/credit for when the rink was closed?
Bloch, the dancewear company, has designed masks for dance, which may also work for figure skating, for those interested.
That was what happened here in New South Wales. Rinks were in the same category as gyms etc. All of which were allowed to open again last week.Anyway all that said it doesn't look ice rinks will be reopening yet in the UK. I'm guessing they'll be reopen when other indoor leisure/gyms reopen.
British Ice Skating was not happy about it yesterday: https://www.instagram.com/p/CByYDJ-JXDE/Anyway all that said it doesn't look ice rinks will be reopening yet in the UK. I'm guessing they'll be reopen when other indoor leisure/gyms reopen.
More details here: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...21-skating-season.107193/page-14#post-5825818Dutch skating team and coaches in quarantine after one skater tested positive
they had just returned from skating camp in Belgium.