Bobrova and Soloviev out of Worlds

[clairecloutier]

They get "suppoting" injections from doctors on a regular basis during the competition.

 

[MarieM]

@pinky166 you have something to do there, you jinxed them!

 

[BlueRidge]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[dinakt]

so to understand it right: bob thinks she has been doped (by someone)?

She does not directly point a finger, but yes, it reads that way.
The upper administration refuses to comment at the moment.

 

[MarieM]

Does it mean they lose the bronze medal too? And that I have to accept that Nikita has won it? I can't.

 

[Jeschke]

They get "suppoting" injections from doctors on a regular basis during the competition.

Doctors had a direct line to mama marina
Just kidding. Desperate. Just desperate.

 

[Jeschke]

She does not directly point a finger, but yes, it reads that way.
The upper administration refuses to comment at the moment.

Now we do finally have a drama I cannot enoy...
That this day would come...

 

[Katha]

This is terrible news. They can say goodbye to getting back three spots at Worlds, then. Or SinKats get a scoring boost for being number one by default and StepBukin get a scoring boost for being default number two?

It's not the first time something like this has happened to the Russian fed, is it? That a skater took something that was recently added to the doping list and was punished for it?

 

[Xela M]

I have no words.............



Why why why?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[MarieM]

I wish it had been anyone but Bobrova. Nikita for example would not have shed a tear from me. Bobrova is so unfair

 

[cocotaffy]

they were my favorite upset for Worlds, how can this type of doping drama still happens, I don't get it.

 

[Xela M]

This is terrible news. They can say goodbye to getting back three spots at Worlds, then. Or SinKats get a scoring boost for being number one by default and StepBukin get a scoring boost for being default number two?

It's not the first time something like this has happened to the Russian fed, is it? That a skater took something that was recently added to the doping list and was punished for it?

How much bloody scoring boost can you give to those four?! They'll be lucky to keep 2 spots

 

[Loves_Shizuka]

I wish it had been anyone but Bobrova. Nikita for example would not have shed a tear from me. Bobrova is so unfair

It's awful, but I felt the same

 

[GarrAargHrumph]

I feel bad for the team. It sounds like perhaps she took it without knowing she was taking it, and recent to the Europeans competition? That perhaps the doctor, Shvedsky, gave it to her - that he's done similar in the past, and it caused another team (rowing?) to test positive? Am I reading that right? Perhaps he doesn't keep up on the latest regulations, as he should, but wow. I feel very bad for her, if this is the case; and for her partner.

 

[morqet]

How much bloody scoring boost can you give to those four?! They'll be lucky to keep 2 spots

They'll be OK for 2 spots, (they'd probably have to have one team not make the FS to go down to 1) but 3 seems unlikely. Assuming everyone is clean, I'd expect P/C, C/L, W/P, C/B & Shibs ahead of S/K, and H/D ahead of S/B, with G/P maybe sneaking ahead as well. So 6th & 8th (not enough for 3). Definitely no room for mistakes, and neither team has shown themselves to be a beacon of consistency...

 

[Katha]

They'll be OK for 2 spots, (they'd probably have to have one team not make the FS to go down to 1) but 3 seems unlikely. Assuming everyone is clean, I'd expect P/C, C/L, W/P, C/B & Shibs ahead of S/K, and H/D ahead of S/B, with G/P maybe sneaking ahead as well. So 6th & 8th (not enough for 3). Definitely no room for mistakes, and neither team has shown themselves to be a beacon of consistency...

That's a likely scenario, agree. The probable best case scenario. I think C/L are vulnerable in the FD, but their SD is strong and once they're in that last group things get super difficult. S/K and S/B aren't the only ones who've shown themselves to be mistake prone, though, some of the top teams have as well. No one's skated yet. I'm not saying 5th is likely for SinKats, not at all. But what they've scored so far is close enough to the top teams that if one of them screws up, they're in with a chance. Of course it will depend on tech panel and performance on the day.

 

[StitchMonkey]

http://www.sport-express.ru/figure-skating/news/974802/
Cannot translate verbatum (no time now), but it says that the doping probe was taken during the Europeans. That the drug is widely used in Russian sport (at least before the ban), that it became illegal Jan.1, it promotes endurance and quick muscle recovery. WADA classified it as S4, a serious "hormones and metabolic drugs" offense, that can lead to a 4 year ban.

Thank you for adding this. From what was on the wiki page of the drug it seems like the type you would more likely be taking because you need it, and I was wondering how it was performance enhancing.

 

[forthewin]

http://www.sport-express.ru/figure-skating/reviews/974642/
instead they had Dr. Philipp Shvedsky, who regularly works with Mozer group. They get "suppoting" injections from doctors on a regular basis during the competition.

Supporting injections? Mozer group? Does this mean what I think it means?

 

[Xela M]

They'll be OK for 2 spots, (they'd probably have to have one team not make the FS to go down to 1) but 3 seems unlikely. Assuming everyone is clean, I'd expect P/C, C/L, W/P, C/B & Shibs ahead of S/K, and H/D ahead of S/B, with G/P maybe sneaking ahead as well. So 6th & 8th (not enough for 3). Definitely no room for mistakes, and neither team has shown themselves to be a beacon of consistency...

I was exaggerating, but omg how far has Russian ice dance fallen!! S&K and S&B is the best they can do. *palmface*

 

[dinakt]

Supporting injections? Mozer group? Does this mean what I think it means?

i do not know what you think, but "supporting" injections is not a code, it is what it is. Vitamins to speed recovery, it is usually legal and effective

 

[Xela M]

Supporting injections? Mozer group? Does this mean what I think it means?

I'm no expert, but don't many skaters get injections (with legal drugs) for pain relief before performances? I remember a few skaters talking about it

 

[GarrAargHrumph]

Here is the Associated Press article, in English:

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/top-russian-ice-dancer-bobrova-fails-doping-test-37460112

It says Bobrova reported to the media that she failed a doping test after Europeans, and the substance was meldonium, a heart drug that used to be popular as a sport "supplement" in Russia and the former Soviet countries, and which was banned as of January 1. She said she was very surprised, because she'd been careful of what she took, and was aware that this drug was banned.

The article doesn't talk about anything beyond this.

 

[millyskate]

I'm in shock at this news. Very sad indeed.

 

[sweetsparky]

I wish it had been anyone but Bobrova. Nikita for example would not have shed a tear from me. Bobrova is so unfair

I understood you. I would be sad for anyone. But, seriously, Bobrova. Why her? So sad and unfair after all the troubles this team has suffered

 

[forthewin]

Here is the Associated Press article, in English:

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/top-russian-ice-dancer-bobrova-fails-doping-test-37460112

It says Bobrova reported to the media that she failed a doping test after Europeans, and the substance was meldonium, a heart drug that used to be popular as a sport "supplement" in Russia and the former Soviet countries, and which was banned as of January 1. She said she was very surprised, because she'd been careful of what she took, and was aware that this drug was banned.

The article doesn't talk about anything beyond this.

a heart drug that used to be popular as a sport "supplement" in Russia and the former Soviet countries, yeah, not shady at all.

 

[GarrAargHrumph]

They've worked so hard, too, to improve their posture and etc., to address their issues, and to think that this could be it, end of career. It's a shame.

Is it the case that all participants at Europeans are drug tested, or is it random/just a sample?

 

[MarieM]

I think all medallist have a doping test nowadays

 

[Ananas Astra]

They've worked so hard, too, to improve their posture and etc., to address their issues, and to think that this could be it, end of career. It's a shame.

Is it the case that all participants at Europeans are drug tested, or is it random/just a sample?

I think the medallists all get tested plus a few random competitors. With Pairs and Ice Dance it is that I think only one partner is tested.

 

[Xela M]

a heart drug that used to be popular as a sport "supplement" in Russia and the former Soviet countries, yeah, not shady at all.

It only became illegal on 1.Jan.2016

 

[forthewin]

I feel sorry for B/S individually, because the difficulties they overcame along the way. But for Russian federation using all sorts of drugs to "help" athletes, no, not sorry at all. You get what you deserve. That's all I'm saying.