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[Firedancer]

Not too much new but here is a video from Global Athlete. It does question the lack of punishment for anyone in authority and whether it will cause more athletes to be fed drugs.

https://x.com/globalathletehq/status/1754414471693373658?s=46&t=t-qfJxDjad9-j4B-GsMqGg

 

[coppertop1]

Not too much new but here is a video from Global Athlete. It does question the lack of punishment for anyone in authority and whether it will cause more athletes to be fed drugs.

https://x.com/globalathletehq/status/1754414471693373658?s=46&t=t-qfJxDjad9-j4B-GsMqGg

Eteri and co definitely should have been punished. The adults failed her and explore her.

Holding russian athletes to the same standard as other countries is 'warfare against russia'?

I really don't want to see any more russian athletes if it means putting up with the massive self-pity parties and 'poor me!' whining.... so un-olympic....

Not only that but the trolls and bots insults, whining and gaslighting all over social media. It's hard ugly. If Russia doesn't want to play by the rules and accept responsibility, they shouldn't be allowed back.

 

[caseyedwards]

Holding russian athletes to the same standard as other countries is 'warfare against russia'?

I really don't want to see any more russian athletes if it means putting up with the massive self-pity parties and 'poor me!' whining.... so un-olympic....

Russian athletes are held to a totally different standard!! Meldonium was nothing. A placebo. Nothing. No researchers ever showed it being a PED. It was a total fraud of a marketing campaign like Dr Oz cheap vitamins. But yet it was banned because of Russians taking it. Russians were suspended. Medals taken away! Banned from Olympics. But it was and remains nothing.

 

[Prancer]

Russian athletes are held to a totally different standard!! Meldonium was nothing. A placebo. Nothing. No researchers ever showed it being a PED. It was a total fraud of a marketing campaign like Dr Oz cheap vitamins. But yet it was banned because of Russians taking it. Russians were suspended. Medals taken away! Banned from Olympics. But it was and remains nothing.

Then they really have no excuse for using it.

 

[caseyedwards]

Then they really have no excuse for using it.

Yes but the huge punishments made no sense! That’s the example of persecution

 

[coppertop1]

Yes but the huge punishments made no sense! That’s the example of persecution

You're just proving our point with all your constant whining.

 

[Simone411]

Yes but the huge punishments made no sense! That’s the example of persecution

You know, Eddie Murphy once talked about a family member of his being a Goonie Goo Goo. His description of a Goonie Goo Goo was sort of like a big foot, troll or something similar to Lurch Addams.

This reminds me of you in a way ... sort of like a wart that just lingers there waiting to cause friction on any subject matter. I've never had a wart, but I'm told that they're very irritating.

 

[Mafke]

Meldonium was nothing. A placebo. Nothing

Maybe you need to get in your time machine and go back to 2016 and convince the WDA of how wrong they were to ban it?

Failing that... maybe work toward having it accepted.

Failing both, maintaining a respectful silence.

the lack of punishment for anyone in authority

Yes, coaches and/or regulatory bodies facing repurcussions would do wonders to clean things up.... if that is actually anyone's goal....

 

[Prancer]

Yes but the huge punishments made no sense! That’s the example of persecution

Even more reason for them to stop using a drug that does nothing yet carries such big penalties.

 

[On My Own]

Yes but the huge punishments made no sense! That’s the example of persecution

why do you like your ass getting handed to you so much

 

[On My Own]

No one posted this yet? (Sorry if I missed it)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1754561365375611307

From Christine Brennan's twitter.

New: IOC member Dick Pound tells me re: ROC over CAN for team bronze: “Clearly there has been an error made. It should not require a legal proceeding. The math is not rocket science. An error was made & needs to be corrected asap. The longer it goes on, the worse the ISU looks.”

 

[Rukia]

dick pound isn't wrong

 

[Allskate]

Vincent has finally made a public statement on his social media and it is just as eloquent and touching as one would expect from him. Words cannot express how happy I am that he can call himself an Olympic Gold Medalist.

I hope he gets lots of photos from a wonderful gold medal ceremony.

dick pound isn't wrong

And, according to what Phil Hersh said in his TSL interview, it sounds like the IOC immediately knew that and his IOC sources told him so.

Maybe the ISU's ongoing silence is because they are currently trying to figure out how to fix their error? But, it does look worse and worse the longer they don't fix it and refuse to answer questions. Especially with the IOC commenting on the ISU's incompetence.

 

[caseyedwards]

The nastier you are doesn’t make you any less wrong

 

[Jammers]

Dick Pound may be one of the greatest names ever. ?

 

[Prancer]

The nastier you are doesn’t make you any less wrong

Doesn't make you less right, either.

It just makes you nasty.

 

[Mafke]

The nastier you are doesn’t make you any less wrong

Talking to a mirror?

 

[sheetz]

My guess is that by wrongly awarding the bronze to ROC the IOC deliberately paved the way to awarding two team bronzes. Whereas awarding it to Canada from the outset would have shut the ROC completely out of the medals.

 

[Alilou]

My guess is that by wrongly awarding the bronze to ROC the IOC deliberately paved the way to awarding two team bronzes. Whereas awarding it to Canada from the outset would have shut the ROC completely out of the medals.

The IOC did NOT award the bronze to Russia. The ISU did that, and now the IOC is saying publicly that the ISU got it wrong.

 

[coppertop1]

My guess is that by wrongly awarding the bronze to ROC the IOC deliberately paved the way to awarding two team bronzes. Whereas awarding it to Canada from the outset would have shut the ROC completely out of the medals.

Russia should be shut out of the medals. The new scores drop them down to 4th, when you do the math. Russia is lucky to have not been disqualified

 

[Mafke]

IOC deliberately paved the way to awarding two team bronzes

Pretty much exactly what I was thinking (though my thoughts didn't express it as clearly and concisely as you have).

 

[Alilou]

Pretty much exactly what I was thinking (though my thoughts didn't express it as clearly and concisely as you have).

Once again - the IOC was not responsible for the distribution of medals. That was up to the ISU. The ISU (either because they're stupid, and/or because they want to appease the Russians) got the math wrong. And now the IOC is saying publicly that the ISU got it wrong.

 

[Simone411]

The nastier you are doesn’t make you any less wrong

And this is what it looks like using the Leonardo da Vinci mirror writing technique.

gnorw ssel yna uoy ekam t’nseod era uoy reitsan ehT

 

[sheetz]

The IOC did NOT award the bronze to Russia. The ISU did that, and now the IOC is saying publicly that the ISU got it wrong.

You're right. But I still think the likely end result is that two bronzes will be awarded.

 

[Mafke]

now the IOC is saying publicly that the ISU got it wrong

Ever hear of kayfabe? This seems like carefully choreographed kayfabe to me.... other more trusting souls may take things at face value.

 

[skatingguy]

Dick Pound's influence at the IOC is limited. He's been on the outs for many years now.

 

[marbri]

Dick Pound's influence at the IOC is limited. He's been on the outs for many years now.

New Year sees Pound membership come to an end

December 31 saw a seismic moment for the International Olympic Committee - after 44 years, Richard William Duncan Pound will cease to be a full IOC me...

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December 31 saw a seismic moment for the International Olympic Committee (IOC) - after 44 years, Richard William Duncan Pound will cease to be a full IOC member, having passed the applicable age-limit of 80.

 

[MacMadame]

Dick Pound's influence at the IOC is limited. He's been on the outs for many years now.

That explains why he's willing to speak out.

Personally, I do think this decision was made to award two Bronze medals. But it's the ISU who set it up that way, not the IOC.

 

[skategal]

Dick Pound might not have as much influence in the IOC but Canada is still a big player within the IOC and regularly fields one of the biggest teams for each Winter Olympics.

Even more so when we join forces with our cousins the USA.

 

[overedge]

Dick Pound is a well-respected authority on drugs in sport, and cheating in sport. His voice has weight on those issues.