The Dance Hall 12: Boston Tea Dance Party

Listen... If we can will it so that ChoBat and GuigFab both lose their 2nd GPs to CarPon & LajLag respectively, I'll be down with it.

And then TurkVer winning at Finlandia over both GilPoir and FearGib, also satisfying and ensuring maximal chaos.
I have no powers but I am good with all of this, although I would rather it be the Taschlers. It would be so amazing to have a huge shake up the year before the Olympics. As of now the dream is still alive.
 
I have no powers but I am good with all of this, although I would rather it be the Taschlers. It would be so amazing to have a huge shake up the year before the Olympics. As of now the dream is still alive.
Well, I'd rather it be the Taschlers at Finlandia too, but I gotta play the odds and go with TurkVer because of home GP bias. God knows, CarPon lost out on a medal at GP Espoo to them last year because of that. So, I'm going with TurkVer just outright winning this year because of the chaos factor.
 
As long as we’re predicting the future, here’s my prediction from the end of the 2021-2022 season

Post in thread 'The Dance Hall 9: Bring the Bling or No Beijing 2021-2022'
https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...g-or-no-beijing-2021-2022.108381/post-6217962

I am cautiously optimistic about Bratti/Somerville because they rocketed up the (domestic) ranks and deserved to, which is quite a statement in a field as deep as American dance. Green/Parsons currently have the momentum. Hope they can add speed to their fine skating.

We should get a better view of Lajoie/Lagha's scoring potential if/when G/P retires and they move into Canada #2's spot.

There's a lot of young Russian teams that could make a statement in the next quad, even after they inevitably break up and re-pair :P.

The Taschler siblings have also made notable improvement this past season and could continue to rise, at least as far as a non-IAM OES team can.
Lopareva/Brissaud also have a lot of potential and are creative and voidy, which should be fun to watch. :encore:

Not bad if I do say so myself. :lol:

Still cautiously optimistic about B/S and glad they earned a medal today.

Sad to see Green/Parsons lose so much momentum, but there’s plenty of hope for this season’s comeback.

For L/L, I predicted the wrong Canadian team’s retirement, but Canada #2 scoring is looking good for them.

Nope to Russian predictions unless you count the faux Georgians.

Taschlers continue to be great and non-IAM politics is still potentially a problem for them.

And L/B are realizing their potential and making moves! Thrilled for them.
 
As long as we’re predicting the future, here’s my prediction from the end of the 2021-2022 season

Post in thread 'The Dance Hall 9: Bring the Bling or No Beijing 2021-2022'
https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...g-or-no-beijing-2021-2022.108381/post-6217962



Not bad if I do say so myself. :lol:

Still cautiously optimistic about B/S and glad they earned a medal today.

Sad to see Green/Parsons lose so much momentum, but there’s plenty of hope for this season’s comeback.

For L/L, I predicted the wrong Canadian team’s retirement, but Canada #2 scoring is looking good for them.

Nope to Russian predictions unless you count the faux Georgians.

Taschlers continue to be great and non-IAM politics is still potentially a problem for them.

And L/B are realizing their potential and making moves! Thrilled for them.
Can't believe you didn't even think enough of CarPon to discuss them at all. :drama:

;)

ETA - but good job!
 
Ha ha. Do you remember their 2021-2022 season? Their programs were awful and they had been beaten by Wolfkostin/Chen at nationals when I wrote that post. They have improved dramatically since then and kudos to them.
Oh, totally. 2021-22 was the WTF "Wicked Game" FD with the super-crazy dance break. Anthony had surgery and wow, things have changed so much for them since!
 
lopareva/brissaud deserve better fd choreography... she especially
I don’t think what they have is bad - and it’s far better than the last couple of seasons. However, their Tron FD is still their best material, imo. I really hope that they don’t take this success as a sign to keep doing the same (because this does seem to be a trend in Montreal…)
 
I don’t think what they have is bad - and it’s far better than the last couple of seasons. However, their Tron FD is still their best material, imo. I really hope that they don’t take this success as a sign to keep doing the same (because this does seem to be a trend in Montreal…)
I do not recall them being predictable (meaning always having the same type of choreography) from one season to the next... I like them especially when they think out of the box. One of the best dance couples for me, at the moment.
 
I do not recall them being predictable (meaning always having the same type of choreography) from one season to the next... I like them especially when they think out of the box. One of the best dance couples for me, at the moment.
oh yeah, i love their skating, which is why i think they need to start going to a more seasoned choreographer than guillaume. he doesn't seem to be able to convey a full vision for a program. i never get a sense of beginning, middle and end with his choreography or any kind of cohesion of the movements he assigns the skaters.

like i said, i think they deserve better.
 
oh yeah, i love their skating, which is why i think they need to start going to a more seasoned choreographer than guillaume. he doesn't seem to be able to convey a full vision for a program. i never get a sense of beginning, middle and end with his choreography or any kind of cohesion of the movements he assigns the skaters.

like i said, i think they deserve better.
I disagree with you on this: The choreography might not be perfect (the ending needs some work) but it is original and totally different from the choreographies on show this season. I think Guillaume is on to finding a different voice here. It is also very different from what he used to dance to.
 
Thinking about how dance results are often thought of as ridiculously predictable, and yet, of the three GP events we’ve had so far, the overwhelming favorites were defeated in two of them.

In the third, the overwhelming favorite did win, but the clear second choice had a fall in the RD—that result, too, could have been different.

Interesting, yes? Will order be restored at NHK, do we think?
 
Thinking about how dance results are often thought of as ridiculously predictable, and yet, of the three GP events we’ve had so far, the overwhelming favorites were defeated in two of them.

In the third, the overwhelming favorite did win, but the clear second choice had a fall in the RD—that result, too, could have been different.

Interesting, yes? Will order be restored at NHK, do we think?
See, now, this post only tells half the story, to fit the narrative desired. It neglects to mention that the favorite at Skate America had a fall in the RD and lost a bunch of points. Or that the favorite at GPdF had a fall in the FD along with a lift error, both of which cost them a lot of points.

Stuff happens. Kudos to the tech panels & judges for keeping things real and judging what happened on the ice not by reputation.

This week or the rest of the GP... we'll see what happens.
 
See, now, this post only tells half the story, to fit the narrative desired. It neglects to mention that the favorite at Skate America had a fall in the RD and lost a bunch of points. Or that the favorite at GPdF had a fall in the FD along with a lift error, both of which cost them a lot of points.

Stuff happens. Kudos to the tech panels & judges for keeping things real and judging what happened on the ice not by reputation.

This week or the rest of the GP... we'll see what happens.
Yes and no.

World #1 losing to world #4 even with mistakes? Rare but not unheard of. And I still think judges are willing to give F&G wins that don't reflect their skating skills, but whatever. :lol:

World #3 losing to #8? That was a bit more of a shock, on top of judges having the cojones to drop G&F to 5th in the FD. THAT was WILD.
 
The top teams that have had mistakes recently experienced extremely costly errors (on an element, versus a random fall or minor glitch). These same teams (C/B, G/F) are usually incredibly consistent. Agree with kudos to the judges for assigning scores appropriately, but I would completely expect C/B to come back strongly (having had time to tweak programs and a history of getting much better as the season progresses) . I think G/F will recover as well, but their programs (IMHO) need a lot of rework, if not scrapping of the FD. I don’t think this a ‘changing of the world order’ yet. Very much looking forward to NHK. Also, the China GP has a pretty competitive dance field and it may or may not be enough time for G/F to train new/improved material and regain confidence.
 
NHK tech panel is
Julie Rey (USA) as technical controller.
Svetlana Liapina Guerreiro (Australia) and Kristin Fraser Lukanin (Azerbajian) as technical specialists.
The judges are from the 6 countries with entries + Canada (they had the original entry and so they likely nominated the judge before Sorensen was banned), Hungary and Georgia.

At Challenge Cup, we have Ingrid Charlotte Wolter (Germany, member of ISU Technical committee) + Tomas Kika (Slovakia) and Alper Ucar (Turkey) in the Technical Panel
Judges are from USA, Italy, Austria, Netherlands and Bosnia

At Denkova-Staviski Cup, we have John Millier (USA), Jonathan Guerreiro (Australia) and Anna Krytskaya (Poland, former Belarus) in the Technical Panel.
Judges are from Ukraine, Italy, Poland, Armenia (Russian until a few seasons ago), Turkey.
 
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I liked the Chock and Bates RT, she can dance but the use of her blade is one dimensional. I must say I truly respect Tessa and Scott now. They really knew how to use their blades to change the mood and feel of the dance. Christina Carrieira is growing up quite nicely as a dancer, looking forward to the FD. I hope Anthony can relax more and enjoy his skate and get a bit more chiselled, these two excel at the FD. There Perfume from last season is still my current favourite FD along with Dune from Olivia and Tim.
 
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I liked the Chock and Bates RT, she can dance but the use of her blade is one dimensional. I must say I truly respect Tessa and Scott now. They really knew how to use their blades to change the mood and feel of the dance. Christina Carrieira is growing up quite nicely as a dancer, looking forward to the FD. I hope Anthony can relax more and enjoy his skate and get a bit more chiselled, these two excel at the FD. There perfume from last season is still my current favourite FD along with Dune from Olivia and Tim.
That's what it is, couldn't put my finger on it before but that is what is missing from C/B RD.
 
Now that was great ice dancing. If I could have given Green and Parsons a medal, I would. Kudos to the IAM School for some great material this year, and for John-Luc Baker. They're getting warmed up for the Olympics. I'm out.
 
Now that was great ice dancing. If I could have given Green and Parsons a medal, I would. Kudos to the IAM School for some great material this year, and for John-Luc Baker. They're getting warmed up for the Olympics. I'm out.
Where can i find the free dance? The others are all over the place but not the dance.
 

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