The Dance Hall 12: Boston Tea Dance Party

[skatfan]

Well, given that the musical itself is only opened in 2002, I'd say no, we won't have anything from it even if the music would, thematically, work. Now, music fron the original 1988 movie COULD work since that soundtrack was, like Dirty Dancing, made up of songs from the 1960s.

I'm sure we'll see more than a few Dirty Dancing and Grease RDs.

As I read the rules, the music doesn’t have to come from the period, as long as the music fits the dance style. Am I misreading something?

 

[lauravvv]

As I read the rules, the music doesn’t have to come from the period, as long as the music fits the dance style. Am I misreading something?

I think you misread indeed. It just says that remixes and covers are allowed.

 

[Karen-W]

As I read the rules, the music doesn’t have to come from the period, as long as the music fits the dance style. Am I misreading something?

I think you misread indeed. It just says that remixes and covers are allowed.

I believe that @lauravvv is correct. The music needs to have been released, originally, in the 50s, 60s or 70s. Remixes or covers that retain the original spirit and feel of the song are allowed - which is why others have said to expect a bunch of Glee covers.

Essentially, what the IDTC is doing is allowing for something like Guignard/Fabbri's original music cut from this past season where they used the Glee cover of "Holding Out for a Hero" which has a similar tempo and vibe as Bonnie Tyler's original version from the '80s.

I think it's also meant to limit the covers used from being distinctly different - ie Faith Hill's cover of the Janis Joplin classic "Take a Piece of My Heart" or Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You" which is very different from Dolly Parton's original version.

 

[skatfan]

I believe that @lauravvv is correct. The music needs to have been released, originally, in the 50s, 60s or 70s. Remixes or covers that retain the original spirit and feel of the song are allowed - which is why others have said to expect a bunch of Glee covers.

Essentially, what the IDTC is doing is allowing for something like Guignard/Fabbri's original music cut from this past season where they used the Glee cover of "Holding Out for a Hero" which has a similar tempo and vibe as Bonnie Tyler's original version from the '80s.

I think it's also meant to limit the covers used from being distinctly different - ie Faith Hill's cover of the Janis Joplin classic "Take a Piece of My Heart" or Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You" which is very different from Dolly Parton's original version.

Hmmm. I didn't see anything explicit posted about the music needing to have originated in the 50s, 60s and 70s. I took the note about remixes as a clarification about new versions, not that it limited newer music, for example a new piece that is swing music. Maybe this is more clearly articulated somewhere else.

 

[ice coverage]

Hmmm. I didn't see anything explicit posted about the music needing to have originated in the 50s, 60s and 70s. I took the note about remixes as a clarification about new versions, not that it limited newer music, for example a new piece that is swing music. Maybe this is more clearly articulated somewhere else.

I also do not feel sure what the ISU is or is not requiring for 2024-25 in terms of release date of RD music.
I think it is noteworthy and/or odd that the official language for 2024-25 (so far??) does not spell things out, whereas the official ISU language for 2023-24 did.

For 2023-24 season, the initial version of the official ISU language was in morqet's post on May 9, 2023 (emphasis added):

Technical Requirements are out: https://www.isu.org/figure-skating/rules/fsk-communications/31243-isu-communication-2560/file

"The theme selected for the Rhythm Dances for both Junior and Senior for the season 2023/24 is “Music and Feeling of the Eighties”. Any music is possible provided it was originally released in the decade of the 1980s. The couple should demonstrate through dance the culture and feeling/essence of this decade. The selected music may be remastered. The Rhythm Dance should NOT be skated in the style of a Free Dance. The couple must use dance movements and dance holds to interpret the chosen music from this decade."

Then on July 31, 2023 (Post Frankfurt), ISU Communication No. 2560 was updated as follows:

" ... Any music is possible provided that the chosen version it was originally released in the decade of the 1980s and maintains the essence of the 1980s. ..."​

Seems to me that for 2024-25, ISU already would have known that it should take care to very clearly put in writing any restriction on when music was released??
The absence of any restriction in writing causes uncertainty for me.

 

[Belsornia]

I believe that @lauravvv is correct. The music needs to have been released, originally, in the 50s, 60s or 70s. Remixes or covers that retain the original spirit and feel of the song are allowed - which is why others have said to expect a bunch of Glee covers.

Solo dancer Alana Pang already posted that she's thinking of using Kylie Minogue's cover (1988) of the Loco-Motion (originally Little Eva, 1962).

And it looks like we have our first Beatles / YouTube copyright strike RD from Karnes/Carr (in their IG highlights).

 

[Spikefan]

Essentially, what the IDTC is doing is allowing for something like Guignard/Fabbri's original music cut from this past season where they used the Glee cover of "Holding Out for a Hero" which has a similar tempo and vibe as Bonnie Tyler's original version from the '80s.

Or essentially, Fear/Gibson’s entire program.

 

[Frau Muller]

Or essentially, Fear/Gibson’s entire program.

Dear Lord, noooooooo!!!!

This whole “dance party” thing has been concocted for them, to go Disco 70s, I believe. That’s why I’m praying to see more 50s and 60s, than 70s!!!!

Beehives & bouffants, please!!!!

 

[Karen-W]

Any ice dance teams reading this thread who haven't figured out their RD for next season - please, please, please, for the love of all camp and absurdity that is your chosen sport - may I suggest delving into the masterpieces that were the Brady Bunch group dance numbers? Pretty please? We not only need but we deserve something so fabulously cheesy for our viewing and snarking pleasure!

 

[ice coverage]

I can't stop watching a very special video of young partners in their Team Ukraine jackets dancing together at ISU Novice Ice Dance Development seminar in Oberstdorf, where Kaitlyn Weaver was one of the coaches.
Kaitlyn's postscript on Instastory:

"i chose this music because it was a rainy, moody day outside. Never knew magic would be created"​

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[Aussie Willy]

I don't mind the theme. 1998 memories.

I will be happy if a team skaters to Woolly Bully.

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[Bigbird]

So, does that mean that Marvin Gaye's music is a possibility? Could a team use Marvin Gaye I Want You Remix?

Edit: I could just imagine my eye candy, Andrew Poje, killing this with a broomstick...sigh.

 

[Sylvia]

The Skating Music Guy (professional figure skating music editor) has some interesting recent posts:
https://twitter.com/skatingmusicguy/status/1788823529737052210

I've created half a dozen RDs so far, and I have a few more on the schedule.
All but one are disco.
There's a strong chance the tech committee may have inadvertently created Disco Year.

Thread of 3 posts: https://twitter.com/skatingmusicguy/status/1788821539560808890

 

[Wyliefan]

I laughed at "Disco Year," but in the thread the poor guy sounds so frustrated by all these strange and arbitrary requirements.

 

[Rukia]

disco year??

questioning my decision to go to worlds this year...

 

[PRlady]

Disco was created to dance to! Much as I love other styles from that period, from singer-songwriter to prog rock, it makes sense to pick fun music created for dance.

Finally watched Daisy Jones and the Six this week. That was such a good soundtrack, I might have liked it more than some of the original Fleetwood Mac. Not to mention Sam Claflin>Lindsey Buckingham. Shame the music isn’t eligible for the RD.

 

[Alilou]

Disco was created to dance to! Much as I love other styles from that period, from singer-songwriter to prog rock, it makes sense to pick fun music created for dance.

Finally watched Daisy Jones and the Six this week. That was such a good soundtrack, I might have liked it more than some of the original Fleetwood Mac. Not to mention Sam Claflin>Lindsey Buckingham. Shame the music isn’t eligible for the RD.

Lurved Daisy Jones and the Six! Book's good too.

 

[ChelleC]

disco year??

questioning my decision to go to worlds this year...

Just skip the RD or wear earplugs.

If most of the RD will be disco, I doubt I will watch many of them. I can't stand disco music.

 

[TanithandBenFan]

I love disco but I know we will get the same five songs over and over again. And I will put a hit out on anyone that dares to speed up the tempo of How Deep Is Your Love.

 

[Rukia]

Just skip the RD or wear earplugs.

If most of the RD will be disco, I doubt I will watch many of them. I can't stand disco music.

oh i'm a glutton for punishment i will show up for every rd with a "I came for a waltz and all i got was these disco rd's" sign

 

[Wyliefan]

We should put it on T-shirts.

 

[Karen-W]

oh i'm a glutton for punishment i will show up for every rd with a "I came for a waltz and all i got was these disco rd's" sign

We should put it on T-shirts.

Seems like it's time for @SHARPIE to revive the FSU Store on CafePress and add some new merch!

 

[Karen-W]

Adrienne Carhart has announced her retirement from competitive skating - https://www.instagram.com/p/C6w7jz5OlPp/?igsh=MWxyc2VqcHQ0d3hzcg==

So, Carhart/Kolosovskyi are done. Nothing on his IG regarding future plans.

 

[Frau Muller]

Just skip the RD or wear earplugs.

If most of the RD will be disco, I doubt I will watch many of them. I can't stand disco music.

I want anything BUT 70s & Disco!

 

[jmtfti]

Alicia Fabbri posted an Instagram story thanking Zach Donohue for choreographing she and Paul's new FD (via Zoom).

 

[Frau Muller]

Ice-dancing women, please study this how-to guide:

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[Belsornia]

So, Carhart/Kolosovskyi are done. Nothing on his IG regarding future plans.

So who’s left with Zueva and Tkachenko now? Larson/Kapran and Lucas Appel?

 

[Debbie S]

So who’s left with Zueva and Tkachenko now? Larson/Kapran and Lucas Appel?

There's a young Carhart sister and partner (Int or Novice) who are probably still there.

 

[Wyliefan]

Sophia Bushell and Antonio Peña are a new ice dance team representing Spain. They're training at Hurtado and Khaliavin's school.

sophia🐬💐🐥💓 on Instagram: "We are excited to announce our new partnership! We will be skating part of the @sk_icedance with Sara, Kirill and Ksenia in Spain... Looking forward to this next chapter in our careers ⭐️☺️"

134 likes, 12 comments - sophiabushell__ on May 17, 2024: "We are excited to announce our new partnership! We will be skating part of the @sk_icedance with Sara, Kirill and Ksenia in Spain... Look...".

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[Belsornia]

I think that makes it five senior teams for Spain next season.

I just checked Roberts/Alis' ISU bio to see if they could do another year in juniors if the age proposals go through (they can't) and it appears they've moved to IAM Ontario. It's getting crowded in Fake London!