The Dance Hall 12: Boston Tea Dance Party

Andrea82 said:
With the Senior GP Final line-up sets, the composition of the panel of judges for the Grand Prix Final is also almost set:

1) Great Britain
2) USA
3) Canada
4) Italy
5) France
6) Ukraine
7) Germany
8) and 9) two among Finland, China and Japan

First priority is those with an entry in Senior GPF
Second priority is those with an entry in Junior GPF
Third priority is organizers of Senior GP stages. The first two sets of priorities cover 7 spots, with 3 countries from the third priority list available for the last two spots. Up to the ISU to sort them in the next few days.
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Germany didn't sent a judge! They are a quite sizable pool of ISU judges. So it is a bit strange no-body was available.
Finland is in. China and Japan are also MIA but they have small pools of ISU Ice Dance judges and not so much interest given absence of their own skaters.
They completed the panel with Georgia (Salomé Chigogidze who was already on site for Pairs. Fourth priority is judges already on site for another discipline) and Spain (5th priority is GPF host but France was already represented. And so they set with 6th priority which is countries with alternates in the Senior Final).

Referee from USA (Janis Engel)
Technical controller: Leanna Caron from Canada
Technical specialists: Joanna Budner (Poland) and Marie Louise Gijtenbeek (Netherlands)
Budner called JGP Bangkok and Nebelhorn. Gijtenbeek was at Nebelhorn to + JGP Gdansk and Denis Ten Memorial.
Caron did Lombardia Trophy.
 
Fear/Gibson voodoo doll schedule:

1. SkAm - Chock/Bates fall, F/G win gold.
2. France - Guignard/Fabbri mess up, lose gold. Petty on F/G’s part since they are not competing.
3. Finlandia - Gilles/Poirier fall, F/G win gold.
4. GPF - Gilles/Poirier fall, F/G get on the podium.
5. Euros - Guignard/Fabbri fall, F/G win gold.
6. Worlds - Chock/Bates fall, F/G get on the podium.
 
Colonel Green said:
Fear/Gibson voodoo doll schedule:

1. SkAm - Chock/Bates fall, F/G win gold.
2. France - Guignard/Fabbri mess up, lose gold. Petty on F/G’s part since they are not competing.
3. Finlandia - Gilles/Poirier fall, F/G win gold.
4. GPF - Gilles/Poirier fall, F/G get on the podium.
5. Euros - Guignard/Fabbri fall, F/G win gold.
6. Worlds - Chock/Bates fall, F/G get on the podium.
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IDK, we know that Chock/Bates can have a major error and still win Worlds, so not sure a fall would completely knock them off the podium.

Gilles/Poirier should be working on muttering their little counter curse tho.
 
NinjaTurtles said:
IDK, we know that Chock/Bates can have a major error and still win Worlds, so not sure a fall would completely knock them off the podium.
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Fear/Gibson revised voodoo doll schedule:

1. SkAm - Chock/Bates fall, F/G win gold.
2. France - Guignard/Fabbri mess up, lose gold. Petty on F/G’s part since they are not competing.
3. Finlandia - Gilles/Poirier fall, F/G win gold.
4. GPF - Gilles/Poirier fall, F/G get on the podium.
5. @NinjaTurtles is smited for doubting the power of the dolls.
6. Euros - Guignard/Fabbri fall, F/G win gold.
7. Worlds - Chock/Bates fall, F/G get on the podium.
 
Colonel Green said:
Fear/Gibson revised voodoo doll schedule:

1. SkAm - Chock/Bates fall, F/G win gold.
2. France - Guignard/Fabbri mess up, lose gold. Petty on F/G’s part since they are not competing.
3. Finlandia - Gilles/Poirier fall, F/G win gold.
4. GPF - Gilles/Poirier fall, F/G get on the podium.
5. @NinjaTurtles is smited for doubting the power of the dolls.
6. Euros - Guignard/Fabbri fall, F/G win gold.
7. Worlds - Chock/Bates fall, F/G get on the podium.
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Guess I better starting listening to the Lilah Jo Show Podcast to pay my penance and beg for forgiveness.
 
Listen, just because the doll says that ChoBat fall at Worlds and FearGib make the podium does not mean that ChoBat are off the podium. And it doesn't mean that FearGib make the podium because ChoBat fall. It just means that both of these things happen at Worlds, lol.

But really, I think the doll is playing with fire and may regret the havoc being wreaked this season by the time the Olympics roll around in another 14 months.
 
Thoughts on the Final implications for each team:

Lopareva/Brissaud - it went fine. I don't think this event did anything for them that qualifying for the Final hadn't already done. In a good position for that Euros bronze.

Gilles/Poirier - RD obviously was a disaster. Notwithstanding that they didn't quite pull up on Lajoie & Lagha in the overall standings, the free dance broke about as well as it could have for them; they were convincingly second in the segment and none of their rivals got some big judging boost.

Lajoie/Lagha - the RD score was surely a disappointment in terms of separating them from teams they might otherwise have been hoping to challenge. In the free dance they hung in with those teams, though. That 4CC bronze feels pretty in the bag as long as they don't mess up.

Fear/Gibson - first podium at a major non-regional competition, that's got to feel good. Close enough to the Italians that they can dream of a Euro title.

Guignard/Fabbri - notwithstanding the silver medal, the underlying trends of this one aren't all that positive for them, especially when they didn't have any mistakes. Decidedly behind Gilles & Poirier in the free, and the Brits are getting too close.

Chock/Bates - smooth sailing.
 
ISU Season Best total scores as of December 10, 2024: https://results.isu.org/isujsstat/sb2024-25/sbtsdto.htm

Top 26 teams currently have scores of 179+:
1Madison CHOCK / Evan BATESUSAISU Grand Prix Final 2024/2507/12/2024219.85S
2Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRIITAISU CS Lombardia Trophy 202415/09/2024215.63S
3Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIERCANISU GP Skate Canada International 202427/10/2024214.84S
4Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSONGBRISU CS Nepela Memorial 202426/10/2024210.65S
5Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHACANISU GP Cup of China 202423/11/2024205.16S
6Evgeniia LOPAREVA / Geoffrey BRISSAUDFRAISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 202421/11/2024201.89S
7Diana DAVIS / Gleb SMOLKINGEOISU CS Nepela Memorial 202426/10/2024201.87S
8Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKOUSAISU GP NHK Trophy 202409/11/2024198.97S
9Juulia TURKKILA / Matthias VERSLUISFINISU GP Finlandia Trophy 202417/11/2024196.60S
10Olivia SMART / Tim DIECKESPISU GP Cup of China 202423/11/2024196.52S
11Emilea ZINGAS / Vadym KOLESNIKUSAISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 202421/11/2024196.07S
12Allison REED / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUSLTUISU GP NHK Trophy 202409/11/2024195.52S
13Emily BRATTI / Ian SOMERVILLEUSAISU CS Tallinn Trophy 202417/11/2024190.86S
14Natalie TASCHLEROVA / Filip TASCHLERCZEISU GP Finlandia Trophy 202417/11/2024190.43S
15Caroline GREEN / Michael PARSONSUSAISU GP Cup of China 202423/11/2024189.86S
16Katerina MRAZKOVA / Daniel MRAZEKCZEISU CS Tallinn Trophy 202417/11/2024188.84S
17Oona BROWN / Gage BROWNUSAISU CS Denis Ten Memorial Challenge 202405/10/2024186.96S
18Hannah LIM / Ye QUANKORISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 202421/11/2024185.62S
19Loicia DEMOUGEOT / Theo LE MERCIERFRAISU GP Cup of China 202423/11/2024185.23S
20Alicia FABBRI / Paul AYERCANISU CS Tallinn Trophy 202417/11/2024185.05S
21Eva PATE / Logan BYEUSAISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 202421/11/2024184.41S
22Yuka ORIHARA / Juho PIRINENFINISU GP Finlandia Trophy 202417/11/2024183.64S
23Phebe BEKKER / James HERNANDEZGBRISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 202406/12/2024181.80S
24Holly HARRIS / Jason CHANAUSISU CS Tallinn Trophy 202417/11/2024179.53S
25Leah NESET / Artem MARKELOVUSAISU GP Skate America 202420/10/2024179.38S
26Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GACCANISU CS PGE Warsaw Cup 202421/11/2024179.27S

New Senior ice dance currently with ISU SB scores that made their international debuts this season:
28Annabelle MOROZOV / Jeffrey CHENUSAISU CS Lombardia Trophy 202415/09/2024177.05S
58Junfei REN / Jianing XINGCHNISU GP Cup of China 202423/11/2024156.51S
91Maxine WEATHERBY / Oleksandr KOLOSOVSKYIAZEISU CS Denis Ten Memorial Challenge 202405/10/2024134.15S
100Ava Valentina AVERSANO MARTINEZ / Christian BENNETTMEXISU CS Trophy Metropole Nice Cote d'Azur 202420/10/2024130.46S
114Harlow Lynella STANLEY / Seiji URANOMEXISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 202406/12/2024122.73S
116Daniela IVANITSKIY / Matthew SPERRYFINISU CS Budapest Trophy 202413/10/2024121.94S
149Gabriela PALOMEQUE / Tanner WHITEECUISU CS Golden Spin of Zagreb 202406/12/202494.26S
 
Sylvia said:
Mariia Nosovitskaya/Mikhail Nosovitskiy (https://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00103319.htm) have ended their long sibling partnership - Misha recently announced that he is looking for a new partner (now listed on IPS): https://www.instagram.com/p/DDQH2JRRiEG/
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I’m shocked that they are splitting at this point in the season! :eek: And they were one of the more enjoyable international mid-ranked teams, too.

This should clear the way for Tkachenko/Kiliakov to be Israeli #1.
 
Andrea82 said:
Time is running out to get Europeans' minimum TES.
Other than Golden Spin, the other events before the entry deadline are
Santa Claus Cup (this week)
Bosphorus Cup (this week)
EduSport (10-15 December) also feature Ice Dance this year

Santa Claus have the following team with realistic chance to achieve it and with realistic chances to be in contention to be selected by their own Fed:
Samantha RITTER / Daniel BRYKALOV, currently off by 3.94 points (thanks SkatingScores)
Maxine WEATHERBY / Oleksandr KOLOSOVSKYI, off by 8.54 points
Olivia Josephine SHILLING / Leo BAETEN, off by 0.44 points
Angelina KUDRYAVTSEVA / Ilia KARANKEVICH, off by 0.91 points

Bosphorus Cup have:
Kristina DOBROSERDOVA / Alessandro PELLEGRINI, off by 0.89 points
Katarina DELCAMP / Berk AKALIN, off by 2.12 points
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EduSport Trophy pushed Weatherby/Kolosovskyi over the Euro minimum too. Actually they also got the minimums for Worlds.
Also the new couple skating for Romania (Ziobrowska/Judd) achieved the Euro TES at first attempt. They are only 2.5 points off the World minimum (with a fall on a choreographic element).
 
Andrea82 said:
EduSport Trophy pushed Weatherby/Kolosovskyi over the Euro minimum too. Actually they also got the minimums for Worlds.
Also the new couple skating for Romania (Ziobrowska/Judd) achieved the Euro TES at first attempt. They are only 2.5 points off the World minimum (with a fall on a choreographic element).
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Sadly, Mexico's Stanley/Urano failed to get the 4CCs min (2.02 shy) - but they improved their CTES by something like 13 points. I wouldn't be surprised to see them and Aversano Martinez/Bennett at Sophia Trophy in early January giving it one last shot in order to compete at 4CCs.
 
Looks like the Sofia Trophy entries are updated on the European Criterium website - http://www.europeancriterium.eu/sign_up_list

Last chance for CTES mins ahead of the 4CCs entry deadline for Stanley/Urano; lots of junior teams trying for Jr Worlds CTES mins (last event for those will be Bavarian Open).

Jr Ice Dance (10 entries - some of the jr ice dance men are listed under sr ice dance men, lol)
BUL - Silvia Lutay/Gleb Riaskin
EST - Ksenia Sipunova/Miron Korjagin
FIN - Enna Kesti/Oskari Liedenpohja
FRA - Celina Fradji/Jean-Hans Forneaux, Louise Bordet/Martin Chardain, Lena Maliqueo Repoux/Ilia Sylnelnikov, Lou Koch/Lucas Chataignoux
GBR - Kiah Whieldon/Jamie Hammond
POL - Yelizaveta Lisova/Jakub Janicki
SWE - Anna Mackenzie/Wesley Lockwood

Sr Ice Dance (11 entries)
AZE - Samantha Ritter/Daniel Brykalov
CYP - Angelina Kudryavtseva/Ilia Karankevich
FIN - Yuka Orihara/Juho Pirinen
FRA - Marie Dupayage/Thomas Nabais, Natacha Lagouge/Arnaud Caffa, Loicia Demougeout/Theo Le Mercier
MEX - Harlow Lynella Stanley/Seiji Urano
POL - Olexandra Borysova/Aaron Freeman
ROU - Emilia Ziobrowska/Shiloh Judd
SUI - Gina Zehnder/Beda Leon Sieber
UKR - Mariia Pinchuk/Mykyta Pogorielov
 
coralline said:
Anyone hear anything about the rumor that 21st century dance party RD may not happen next season due to copyright issues?
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Wyliefan said:
What poetic justice it would be if the copyright issues that have been driving everyone crazy end up saving us all from that terrible fate. :lol:
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I've been wondering/hoping that copyright issues may wind up being enough of a challenge to the ISU that they tell the IDTC to scrap the 21st century dance party RD theme.
Evgeniafan said:
I hope its true and we are given the waltz as the RD.
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If not a "Grand Ball" type of theme then at least a 1920s/30s jazz theme with a foxtrot.
 
her grace said:
I’m shocked that they are splitting at this point in the season! :eek: And they were one of the more enjoyable international mid-ranked teams, too.

This should clear the way for Tkachenko/Kiliakov to be Israeli #1.
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Probably, though Ichilov is the same height as Nosovitskaya, plus Nosovitskiy has more experience than her current partner so if this winds up being a reshuffle, I suppose one should wait & see. Still starting all over again is starting all over again.
 
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