Tessa Virtue & Scott Moir # 47: Come What May...

https://www.olympic.org/pyeongchang...SK_C57_FSKXICEDANCE----------QUAL000100--.pdf
Judges (I think I got the countries correct but please correct any error you see):

1. CARON Leanna (Canada)
2. ABASOVA Maira (Russia)
3. MAKAROVA Anastassiya (Ukraine)
4. HURTH Christine (France)
5. TAKINO Kaoru (Japan)
6. OZKAN SILAOGLU Tanay (Turkey)
7. ZUCCARO Walter (Italy)
8. ROGERS Sharon (USA)
9. ZAYDMAN Albert (Israel)

Does anyone know where to find the full list of judges from which the above were drawn?
 
Judges (I think I got the countries correct but please correct any error you see):

1. CARON Leanna (Canada)
2. ABASOVA Maira (Russia)
3. MAKAROVA Anastassiya (Ukraine)
4. HURTH Christine (France)
5. TAKINO Kaoru (Japan)
6. OZKAN SILAOGLU Tanay (Turkey)
7. ZUCCARO Walter (Italy)
8. ROGERS Sharon (USA)
9. ZAYDMAN Albert (Israel)


Oh god here we go..Canada on thank god but so are FRA & RUS :watch:
 
https://www.olympic.org/pyeongchang...SK_C57_FSKXICEDANCE----------QUAL000100--.pdf
Judges (I think I got the countries correct but please correct any error you see):

1. CARON Leanna (Canada)
2. ABASOVA Maira (Russia)
3. MAKAROVA Anastassiya (Ukraine)
4. HURTH Christine (France)
5. TAKINO Kaoru (Japan)
6. OZKAN SILAOGLU Tanay (Turkey)
7. ZUCCARO Walter (Italy)
8. ROGERS Sharon (USA)
9. ZAYDMAN Albert (Israel)

Does anyone know where to find the full list of judges from which the above were drawn?
I use this link to a PDF file and then do a search by name
https://www.isu.org/docman-document...munications/12127-isu-communication-2111/file
 
Well y'all will be happy to know that ukrain turkey and israel judges + obviously rogers were under the avarage score for VM in PCS in the TE sd. the only one who gave them high pcs is Takino.
UKR and TUR also put BS ahead of the Shibs in PCS in the SD. outrageous
 
Well y'all will be happy to know that ukrain turkey and israel judges + obviously rogers were under the avarage score for VM in PCS in the TE sd. the only one who gave them high pcs is Takino.
UKR and TUR also put BS ahead of the Shibs in PCS in the SD. outrageous


What does this mean? Average is not good though right?
 
Well y'all will be happy to know that ukrain turkey and israel judges + obviously rogers were under the avarage score for VM in PCS in the TE sd. the only one who gave them high pcs is Takino.
UKR and TUR also put BS ahead of the Shibs in PCS in the SD. outrageous

Yes, it could be worse but from that panel V/M have Canada and Japan on their side, that's it.
 
This is not a good panel for V&M. But I thought the Ukrainian judge gave them good marks in the team event. Anyway, I’m sure V&M know that things are not in their favour. I just hope they have two performances they’re proud of!!
 
yes! that was very gracious of him to acknowledge how v/m's execution is TEXTBOOK! he could've very well shown the shibs since, yes, they're american. but then again, v/m won the TE gold, so i think it only comes with that territory to where the gold medallists are shown as examples

It was interesting that the reigning Olympic Gold medalist in ice dance thought their pattern/Choctaw was great, but a bunch of no-names on the technical panel did not. :shuffle:
 
This is not a good panel for V&M. But I thought the Ukrainian judge gave them good marks in the team event. Anyway, I’m sure V&M know that things are not in their favour. I just hope they have two performances they’re proud of!!
I checked again and the UKR judges gave them big scores in the FD actually. Maybe she was just being low in SD scores. She was for the shibs vs BS so maybe this is a good sign she's not with RUS FRA
 
I checked again and the UKR judges gave them big scores in the FD actually. Maybe she was just being low in SD scores. She was for the shibs vs BS so maybe this is a good sign she's not with RUS FRA

Yes and I also thought Italy did as well.
 
This is not a good panel for V&M. But I thought the Ukrainian judge gave them good marks in the team event. Anyway, I’m sure V&M know that things are not in their favour. I just hope they have two performances they’re proud of!!


Huh? I think it's not bad actually..UKR gave them good scores & they have the Canadian judge & US ITA ISR could go there way if they skate clean..why is it that bad?
 
Huh? I think it's not bad actually..UKR gave them good scores & they have the Canadian judge & US ITA ISR could go there way if they skate clean..why is it that bad?
ISR is totally with RUS imo. ITA pretty neutral, and the US judge is Rogers and she hates VM. Maybe if US and CAN are alley for this IE she will change her mind.
 
I just don’t know how Rogers is allowed to judge because she is obviously either very biased or totally ill equipped to judge ice dancing skills. Rosie DiManno will be all over this, and for once, I’m glad.
 
It's unfortunate that dance judges from countries like Great Britain, Australia, Germany, Denmark are not even among the judges that were not drawn for the SD.
 
I just don’t know how Rogers is allowed to judge because she is obviously either very biased or totally ill equipped to judge ice dancing skills. Rosie DiManno will be all over this, and for once, I’m glad.


WHY is Rogers allowed on the panel then? If it's blatantly obvious she hates V&M this is total bullshit..
 
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Don't they automatically judge the the FD?

I meant that these are not among the 13 judges chosen for this Olympics.
The remaining 4 judges from the 13 that were not selected for the SD (and will judge the FD tomorrow) are from:
China
Poland
Spain
Slovakia

And I don't think any of these are in V/M's corner either.
 
LisalLemon, this is the kind of scenario that makes me cry inside when I try to tell people that ice dancing is truly a sport.

This article details some of Judge Rogers’s questionable judging:

https://www.thestar.com/sports/skat...ge-toward-judgment-day-at-worlds-dimanno.html

“HELSINKI—To a figure skating forensic auditor, the crick in the scores would leap out immediately.

At the Four Continents championships last month, Canadians Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir — Olympic gold and silver ice dancers, with the top results on the Grand Prix circuit in their comeback season, including the finals title — drew shockingly low marks from one particular judge, marks completely at odds with the rest of the panel.

Indeed, the Canadians were placed fourth overall, behind three American teams.

The judge: Sharon Rogers of the U.S.”
 
Well then I guess V&M really are ****ed tonight..seems the judging panel is against them too aside from Canada according to the posts here...might not even bother watching live, will just DVR since I know what's gonna happen..enjoy guy's I'm out!
 
I meant that these are not among the 13 judges chosen for this Olympics.
The remaining 4 judges from the 13 that were not selected for the SD (and will judge the FD tomorrow) are from:
China
Poland
Spain
Slovakia

And I don't think any of these are in V/M's corner either.
same LOL
Spain is totally in PC's corner
Poland and Slovakia are with RUS I believe?
China destroied them in PCS in the TE but during GPF was pretty neutral
 
As Scott said, you gotta skate like you dare them to put you second.
And if they get their levels - which are done by the tech specialist, not the judging panel - they do have a chance.
That’s what I’m going to say to myself anyways.
 
LisalLemon, this is the kind of scenario that makes me cry inside when I try to tell people that ice dancing is truly a sport.

This article details some of Judge Rogers’s questionable judging:

https://www.thestar.com/sports/skat...ge-toward-judgment-day-at-worlds-dimanno.html

“HELSINKI—To a figure skating forensic auditor, the crick in the scores would leap out immediately.

At the Four Continents championships last month, Canadians Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir — Olympic gold and silver ice dancers, with the top results on the Grand Prix circuit in their comeback season, including the finals title — drew shockingly low marks from one particular judge, marks completely at odds with the rest of the panel.

Indeed, the Canadians were placed fourth overall, behind three American teams.

The judge: Sharon Rogers of the U.S.”



Wow never knew this..thanks for linking it for me, what a disgrace she is, & here she is on the OLY games ice dance panel judging again..what A JOKE!
Well I hope they skate lights out & the judges cheat so bad it's obvious to someone who is blind..
 
Well then I guess V&M really are ****ed tonight..seems the judging panel is against them too aside from Canada according to the posts here...might not even bother watching live, will just DVR since I know what's gonna happen..enjoy guy's I'm out!

Sorry to hear you might not be watching live.
Even though the odds are not in their favor, I plan to watch V/M live to send positive vibes through the internet :).
I just want them to skate their best SD ever and see them happy immediately after their skate.

Come on all V/M fans, let's cheer the incomparable Virtue and Moir in real time! Don't let what ever is going behind the scenes deter us from watching them live in their last competition.
 

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