Tessa Virtue & Scott Moir # 47: Come What May...

I too have decades of watching this sport & yes to believe that your favourite couple can only be beaten if it's a fix is arrogance.

It's not watching I have experience in, but training and coaching. Of course I don't believe they can only be beaten by a fix- like I just said above, if they fall on their faces or justifiably lose levels or forget how to use edges in step sequences then obviously they should be beaten (like they were beaten in the FD at Worlds. I have no issues with that whatsoever) I thought I was pretty clear in my post when I said it's my personal opinion that if both teams are 100% clean, V/M's skating is of a better quality and should therefore win. I don't personally root for the people over the skating.
 
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You say you don't like P/C personality. That seems really mean. But pretty much your entire post is mean but I won't bother to sue you........................
If you consider my post as mean, I don't want to know what you think of other posts on this forum especially about Tessa and Scott. But luckily, I don't care about your opinion and honestly I don't want to spend the last days of Tessa and Scott's career arguing with PC fans. I prefer reading and posting about my favorite ice dancers who I consider to be the best ice dancers ever.
 
I don't come on here very often but I thought I would check out this thread as I adore both V/M & P/C.
I just can't believe the arrogance of SOME V/M fans. You really think they are entitled to win because you love them or if P/C win it's a fix ?. It's just so wrong. V/M are amazing but so are other couples. This thread has turned into a slating P/C rather than a celebration of V/M.
If P/C win it's because they deserve it, not because the judges have fixed it. If V/M win it's because they deserve it , not because they are entitled to it.
Four years ago I desperately wanted V/M to win but did not cry fix because D/W did. Other couples are allowed to be amazing & win too. It's the entitlement on here which is disturbing.
Do any of you enjoy watching other Ice Dance couples or do you just watch to wish other couples fail so V/M win ?.

What’s the point of this comment?
 
Ya, I will watch it live and I will be a shaking blubbering mess. Not sure why I do this to myself. LOL.
Same here. That's the only good thing about them ending their career. Because there is no other couple that I'm so invested in that my heart is beating like it wants to jump out of my chest and my hands are shaking. My blood pressure is no fan of Tessa and Scott, that's for sure. :lol:
 
I too have decades of watching this sport & yes to believe that your favourite couple can only be beaten if it's a fix is arrogance.

Coming from a Pasha fan that is kind of ironic don't you think? She thought she won her golds by herself. ;)

And the fix was definitely in for G&P. They stumbled in their CD, their OD was a hot mess compared to K&O and their FD was good but also did not have the same impact as K&O.

They won gold in 1998 because they were 4 time World Champs.

So pot... meet kettle
 
Same here. That's the only good thing about them ending their career. Because there is no other couple that I'm so invested in that my heart is beating like it wants to jump out of my chest and my hands are shaking. My blood pressure is no fan of Tessa and Scott, that's for sure. :lol:
SAME :)
 
Same here. That's the only good thing about them ending their career. Because there is no other couple that I'm so invested in that my heart is beating like it wants to jump out of my chest and my hands are shaking. My blood pressure is no fan of Tessa and Scott, that's for sure. :lol:


Me too! Honestly when I watch them live my heart is racing and I get all warm. That’s how nervous I am for them. I think I was sweating during the Team FD performance. LOL. And then that awful feeling as the scores come up. But I can’t imagine not watching it live...I also don’t know why I do this to myself.
 
If you want to take a look back at Tessa and Scott's career, this video is perfect for that. It's not a typical fan video but it shows clips of their skating with the voice over from commentators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQyZGhvOyyo The person who created this video, did an amazing job. I almost started crying.
And it even fits our previous discussion. One of the commentators said something along the lines of: "We will always remember how they made us feel." I don't think she meant our shaking, sweating and nervousness ;), but well, I really, really enjoy and love the second, third and hundredth viewing of their dances :D.
 
If you want to take a look back at Tessa and Scott's career, this video is perfect for that. It's not a typical fan video but it shows clips of their skating with the voice over from commentators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQyZGhvOyyo The person who created this video, did an amazing job. I almost started crying.
And it even fits our previous discussion. One of the commentators said something along the lines of: "We will always remember how they made us feel." I don't think she meant our shaking, sweating and nervousness ;), but well, I really, really enjoy and love the second, third and hundredth viewing of their dances :D.
Yes, that is Brenda Irving of CBC and those were the words she used when they took the ice for their free in Sochi :)
 
If you want to take a look back at Tessa and Scott's career, this video is perfect for that. It's not a typical fan video but it shows clips of their skating with the voice over from commentators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQyZGhvOyyo The person who created this video, did an amazing job. I almost started crying.
And it even fits our previous discussion. One of the commentators said something along the lines of: "We will always remember how they made us feel." I don't think she meant our shaking, sweating and nervousness ;), but well, I really, really enjoy and love the second, third and hundredth viewing of their dances :D.

Probably the best compilation clips video of v/m I've ever watched so far! Thank you for sharing this :)

For the years of comments accusing them of being two footed, fake chemistry or "just technical" skaters, this vid really certainly proved them wrong.

I also cried from watching this. After the two minute point till the end. (Only realized it was a 12min. long vid. Lol) I think it finally hit me just then that my daughter and I will not see them in the competition circuit again after this games. And for all the criticisms/opinions I have shared over these 2 seasons (though I've been a FSUniverse fan of v/m thread since 2009), I truly believe they embodied every thing of my ideal of what it means to be an ice dancer.

As the IE fast approaches, I will hold onto Scott's words (in my head and heart): "...if we skated better enough, then they can't deny you..." That's my hope and wish for them
 
I just found out that South Korea has a "Penis Park". LOL LOL. Makes me wonder even more why they felt they had to change the "suggestive" position in their FD lift to make it more "family friendly". Hahahahaha. Not re-hashing the lift thing. Just an observation.

https://youtu.be/lv8qRb6tun4
 
They look so much more carefree this time round even though they're not idiots and they've got to know they're not the favourites as it was in Sochi. So I might hold off on my grouching about bs judging (lol no I won't) just because they seem at peace with their skating and with themselves now. It's lovely to see.

this 100%!!!!... they know what's up, and it seems they don't give any "F's", as they are going out on their own terms, guns blazing, fight to the finish!
 
So "Art on Ice" used a pic of Tessa and Scott to promote their show and I asked about them doing AOI this year. Unfortunately they won't. I guess the chance of seeing them this year is zero :(.
 
I don't come on here very often but I thought I would check out this thread as I adore both V/M & P/C.
I just can't believe the arrogance of SOME V/M fans. [blah blah blah mfking blah]
"I came onto an uber thread and I'm shocked -- *shocked*! -- that some people are talking uber absurdity."

If you clutch those pearls any harder they'll crumble. Have you read the hateful dreck in the youtube comments under any Virtue/Moir video? That shit makes this thread look like mother's milk, seriously. Fans of all skaters and of all stripes get out of hand. People are still re-litigating Salt Lake City, ffs. Move on.
 
I'm not from a powerhouse figure skating country. I don't want other couples to fail. I don't want V/M to win if they fall on their faces and don't deserve it. I enjoy P/C's many qualities. I like a lot of other couples- H/D and H/B are particular favourites.

But I have decades of experience in this sport and care about it deeply. Therefore, what I want most of all is fair, transparent judging. And I do not believe that P/C's normal level of performance scoring higher PCS and many of their elements higher GOEs over V/M's normal level of performance is demonstrative of fair or transparent judging. I want them to win if they go clean because, from experience, I genuinely believe them to be the superior skaters with the superior programs. If both go completely clean and P/C win I will not feel that it was earned, and yes, looking at the protocols for both teams across the season I do believe that there is at least a bit of the usual figure skating skullduggery afoot. Call that arrogance if you want.



Yeah this right here!

They skate clean & perfect then they should be the winners!

Put it this way..when the legendary goats Torvill & Dean skated NO one beat them for 4 years because no one was as good & no matter what other teams tried it failed cause they were not T&D!
That is how I feel about V&M..the are the true GOATS & IF they have a perfect skate..THEY SHOULD WIN!
 
I too have decades of watching this sport & yes to believe that your favourite couple can only be beaten if it's a fix is arrogance.



Here it is broken down in in basics..

As long as V&M skate clean & to the best of their ability...THEY WIN
Why you ask? Cause they are simply the best..other teams can skate well but if V&M skate to the max they can..they will always be that much better!

Bye!
 
Oh god so nervous for where they pick to skate in the final group..I know the draw is Saturday so I will be scared if they pick ahead of P&C cause if P&C get to skate last or AFTER V&M they will likely lead after the SD..hate this lol

If Tessa & Scott are first in the final flight then they won't get the marks imo..they will definitely mark them lower if they skate before P&C & save some marks for the French..just watch..

Gonna guess P&C have the luck of skating after them too..that is just how things have been going this season, P&C will probably skate last both nights..
 
Hasn't it always been a thing that V/M basically never draw last? I can barely remember a time when they did.

Last would be good, but I'm alright with just before P/C. The immediate comparison in the SD probably can't hurt (then again I said that about the GPF).
 
@PashaFan fan of held up overscored team supports held up overscored skating team while dragging V/M fans in their own thread. *puts on ignore list* bye bish! you "adore" V/M but go into their thread and trash their fans? typical fake double fan. You don't see us going into P/C's thread complaining about their fans who are the worst I have ever seen in terms of fans of an ice dance team. Scroll onto any youtube video of V/M, the shibs, and H/D and see derogatory broken English paragraph comments thrown around by mean-spirited assholes while here you have pretty much the same thing except a little nicer which isn't saying much...It also worth noting that you have a mod who is vocal about their ubering towards P/C while making snide/ignorant remarks towards V/M in their own thread essentially abusing their power and being the total opposite of what a mod should be. Gabi even took to Instagram telling her own ubers to stop bullying other ice dance teams. And of course, none of them listened. so...what were you saying about us being the crazy and mean ones?
 
Let the bitter P/C ubers or people who just don't like V/M because their V/M swim in their own jealousy juices. GO V/M! We fans have full confidence in you!
 
And there's Paul Poirier, almost getting someone killed again. That guy really needs to learn some manners.
They almost ran into V/M during practice at nationals too. skating wise I enjoy P/P's skating lots of versatility and amazing costumes. not sure personality wise.
 

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