Survivor v32 - Brains, Brawn, Beauty v2

And I guess Tai doesn't have to use it on himself, which is what could make things interesting. I still feel like he is probably safe next week.

And there is one other person who should be safe next week.
The CBS press release for the finale said that there would be members of all three original tribes left. Since Cydney is the only brawn left, that would mean she must make the finale and is therefore safe next week.

As for whether Audrey made the right move...tough call. I feel like Tai has been a good shield for her so far but I guess that is over now. But on the other hand, as much as Jason seems like a good goat to take to the final on the surface, he is a really good talker and can pull on the heartstrings by talking about his daughter. He would also have a good story about surviving a long time when he was the obvious vote out if he managed to make the final. So I can see where she would think that it's time to nip things in the bud with him and just get him out. I feel like Tai is actually a great goat at this point because he has flip flopped so many times and been all over the place.
 
I'm glad the troll doll finally got taken out. I hated his pity party that other people weren't playing the game just because they were no longer playing with him.
Just like Ciera in 2nd chances. Being a target of other peoples' game does not equal "No one is playing!!!" :rolleyes:

the Troll did get an extremely sympathetic edit this ep. Please, CBS, don't be setting us up for another season of him :yikes:
 
I think Cydney is brave maybe to a fault. She can be a tad bit "in your face--I'm not doing that" and that could blow up on her and it doesn't---or at least it hasn't so far. Of the remaining group I hope Joe does not win. I think we could see Jason again in the future. He is a bad guy and seems to embrace it. Why did he vote for Joe at tribal?
 
Only Joe would be a bad winner now. And I just can't see them leaving him out of most episodes, the edit he has had, if he were the winner.
 
Why did he vote for Joe at tribal?
He knew his vote wouldn't count and was just being a dick, I guess.

And there is no one left who would lose to Joe. I'm not sure anyone in the game would have lost to Joe in the end. Maybe Peter :P
 
They did show a lot Joe this episode - I figured he was toast, until the stuff with Michelle came up.
TC was entertaining.
I agree - anyone but Joe now.
I have enjoyed this season.
 
I have questions about this episode, and hopefully someone can explain. I watch the show for challenges, nature and geography, and don’t really follow the voting strategies, nor understand exactly how and why alliances are formed, and whatever ticks they play on each other instead of fishing and getting food or exploring the island. But I’ve watched long enough to get an idea. So what I don’t understand this time is:

- Why did Jason vote for Joe, when “Joe” was never discussed by Tai, and when at TC the two names on the chopping block were Michelle and Jason? Why would not Jason vote for Michelle? Did I miss a discussion between Tai and Jason about “Joe”?

- Why not take Jason to the final 3, since Jason is the most hated character in the group, and not likely to get any votes in the final?

Maybe i missed something..
 
I have questions about this episode, and hopefully someone can explain. I watch the show for challenges, nature and geography, and don’t really follow the voting strategies, nor understand exactly how and why alliances are formed, and whatever ticks they play on each other instead of fishing and getting food or exploring the island. But I’ve watched long enough to get an idea. So what I don’t understand this time is:

- Why did Jason vote for Joe, when “Joe” was never discussed by Tai, and when at TC the two names on the chopping block were Michelle and Jason? Why would not Jason vote for Michelle? Did I miss a discussion between Tai and Jason about “Joe”?

Jason said that he didn't trust Tai; he had planned to vote for Joe and he was sticking to it, and he did, in spite of everything.

- Why not take Jason to the final 3, since Jason is the most hated character in the group, and not likely to get any votes in the final?

He was an easy boot. Why not get rid of him? And he probably would get some votes at the end, as not everyone on the jury hates him (Scott would surely vote for him and I could see Eric and Julia voting for him, too) and that's before he starts talking about his daughter.
 
Jason said that he didn't trust Tai; he had planned to vote for Joe and he was sticking to it, and he did, in spite of everything.

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He was an easy boot. Why not get rid of him? And he probably would get some votes at the end, as not everyone on the jury hates him (Scott would surely vote for him and I could see Eric and Julia voting for him, too) and that's before he starts talking about his daughter.

Ha! that makes sense! thank you! Jason's "monkey kisses" and daughter's health could become pluses, and turn his image from "villain" to "rouge simpleton" . I can see that..
 
Well now that Jason is gone I know one probability: The chicken lives!!! And it likes big old grubs.
 
they must be eating pretty well - I can think of a few seasons where someone would've eaten that grub for the protein long before Mark could get her beak on it. I think I read that production was keeping them well supplied with bottled water ever since the challenge when Caleb was medevac'ed.
 
Wow 3 medevacs in one season. They would have to give me more than one million to play this season! :biggrinbo
 
Who else was watching that reward challenge going 'oh I hope Joe wins this thing'! It was kinda funny how they all had to just stand there and wait for Joe to go back and get that last bag. I hope he took a nice long stroll back to get it. But ..... as he was chowing down on all that food all I thought was he is gonna regret that big time! After 25+ days of barely eating, you can't just stuff yourself like that and think there will not be, uhm ... stomach issues. I know they are hungry, but ya gotta be careful about chowing down on the food rewards.

So now that the Idol is dead, I'm guessing if Tai does not win that last Immunity Challenge, he is out. I was kinda rooting for him to win it all, but I think the girls will team up and vote him out for an all girls Final.
 
I was so pulling for Joe in that challenge :lol:

What I found interesting is that they showed very little of Joe this season, yet everyone seemed truly upset at his leaving. I know time is limited and they can only show so much, but I wish I had seen him before tonight as something other than silent and useless.
 
Kind of lame editing tonight - I'm glad that Joe won his reward challenge, but :duh: eating all that meat really did him in.

This does change the very end of the season quite a bit. I'm guessing Michele will win, although she's the only one who I would not be happy with winning. I think Cydney has been playing the best game - a little better than Aubrey, because she's kept the target off her back until basically this episode, even though she's made some key moves.
 
I would be happy with any of the final four winning it. I like Cydney's game and I like that Aubrey sees how clever she is and is somewhat alarmed. If I was playing I'm not sure who I would want to take to the final with me. Aubrey has Joe and Neil and maybe Scot and Jason if they feel Tai and Cydney were any part of a blindside. I'd say I wouldn't want to go with Aubrey and Michelle because I think they would win before Tai and Cydney would win.
 
Tai annoyed me this episode. I really don't know why he thought that his vote-out-Michelle plan was going to have everyone on board when he didn't put much effort, thought, or convincing arguments towards actually swinging the vote. I wasn't really that sympathetic to his post-tribal reaction when it appears as though he never got the "okay, good plan" from anybody outside Aubry.

I've been viewing the last few episodes as though Aubry is going to win, but I'd rather have Cydney. I'm not a big fan of Aubry's "wahhh I lost my two closest allies," remember when Neil left how she was bitching that he didn't give her his idol?

Sad to see Joe go out the way he did. I give him a ton of credit for hanging in as well that he did for his age. It was super nice to see him win a challenge, and :rofl: at how everyone had to just sit around while he moseyed back to get his final bag.
 
Regardless of who in the final four wins, this has been a petty satisfying season! Hoping for Aubry or Cydney, but any of them have reason to win. No goats, which is really nice!
 
Tai annoyed me this episode. I really don't know why he thought that his vote-out-Michelle plan was going to have everyone on board when he didn't put much effort, thought, or convincing arguments towards actually swinging the vote. I wasn't really that sympathetic to his post-tribal reaction when it appears as though he never got the "okay, good plan" from anybody outside Aubry.

I've been viewing the last few episodes as though Aubry is going to win, but I'd rather have Cydney. I'm not a big fan of Aubry's "wahhh I lost my two closest allies," remember when Neil left how she was bitching that he didn't give her his idol?

Sad to see Joe go out the way he did. I give him a ton of credit for hanging in as well that he did for his age. It was super nice to see him win a challenge, and :rofl: at how everyone had to just sit around while he moseyed back to get his final bag.

True. I have always imagined that if I were on the show and made it that far that because of the conditions and the game I would be an emotional wreck. So I felt for Tai when he broke down. I could see myself coming unglued. So for emotional strength I admire Cydney and Michelle. I love Aubry's cleverness. She's not strong, I don't think she's a natural leader and has fought off anxiety attacks. So if I had a choice it would be her with Cydney as a close second. But it's all good with the final four.
 
This is a remarkable final four in that there really is no one clear favourite to win. Also there is no one I would really hate to see winning (not like that season when Tony won, that almost made me physically sick).

This is how I would rate them right now:

4. Michele - has not made enough moves. Has she made any?
3. Tai - has been active but I have to take points off for all that flip flopping and for staying with the trolls for as long as he did
2. Cydney - has made some very impressive moves especially towards the end, smart as a whip!
1. Aubry - has been playing her ass off from the beginning. Dug herself out of some big holes. Scrappy!

I keep wanting to flip Cyd/Aubry because I have this idea that Cyd has been better at challenges, but she hasn't really. It's just that amazing body that makes you think that she must have been!
 
Who has secure votes?

Aubry: Neal and Joe will vote for her no matter what.
Michele: Julia, Nick will vote for her no matter what, and I think Scot and Jason will too. They might vote strategy, but I think they'll respect her ability to stay, plus she didn't actively betray them, and they seem like the type that will give points for being a hot girl.
Cydney: Julia and Michele would vote for Cydney if Michele is not in the finals. I think Aubrey and Joe would also, if Aubrey is on the jury.
Tai: I'm not sure if Tai has any guaranteed votes. He did a lot, and made many friends, but also flipped on just about everyone and made a lot of mistakes. I think he'd need to win it in the final TC, and his style of communication is based on emotion, which doesn't tend to play well in FTC.

Debbie is a wild card. I think she'll vote based on strategy, but not sure what that means to her at this point in the game. If Tai is on the jury, he will vote for whoever speaks to him most effectively in FTC. joe will either vote for Aubrey, or with Aubrey. If Michele is not in the finals, Scot and Jason will probably vote for Aubrey - but Cydney might be able to squeeze some respect votes out of them.

The safest bet for the other 3 is to get rid of Michele.
 
That's true, although there is a guy who blogs on Rob Cesternino's website who is pretty good at analyzing the edits and IIRC did end up picking Natalie as a winner that season, and relatively early on too. And even when he's wrong on his winner picks, he's good at figuring out who has longevity in the game and I find his take interesting to read.

That person picked the horrible Natalie Tenerelli (the biggest jury goat in Survivor history) to win Redemption Island. I never really took them seriously since.
 
Yay once again @genevieve typed out my thoughts. Michelle might not have made as many big moves but she also hasn't made enemies. I think she has it if she makes it to final tribal.
 

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