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Retrospective: The 1968 Olympics

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Maofan7, Jan 21, 2012.

  1. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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  2. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone have an idea how Wolfgang Schwarz got such high marks for free skating at the 68 Olympics. I thought his skating was horrible compared to the other leading men like Wood, Danzer, Petkevitch, and others, and without a triple toe he had less jump content than Trixi Schuba.
     
  3. olympic

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    I just realized that Patrick Pera and Philippe Candeloro have something in common - 2 back-to-back bronze medals for France in 2 consecutive Olympic games.
     
  4. floskate

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  5. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    OOPS!

    Sorry - it's Google listed as the 1968 podium.
    I guess you can't always trust them!
     
  6. floskate

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    It's not you're fault, it's googles :lol: Probably as both competitions were held in France, that's were their confusion occurred.
     
  7. berthesghost

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    Thank you! It's straight-up Star Trek meets Lost in Space, both of which didn't come out until 66 and 67, so I was confused on why FS, which is always like 5 years behind the times, was so ahead of the style. :lol:
     
  8. nylynnr

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    Schwarz did a triple as well as double Axel, so his jump content is roughly comparable to that of the other men's and superior to Schuba's. While I, too, prefer Wood's free skating, his triple was not as clean, and I'm guessing (?) judges were influenced by that. Petkevich had two disruptive falls, which likely hurt his score. As noted earlier, the scoring back then was such that even winning the free skate didn't lift Danzer to the medals. It was the only time Schwarz defeated Danzer, and Schwarz retired immediately, so it's likely he knew he had gotten lucky.
     
  9. Maofan7

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    Many thanks - great article. Its always been my view that Tim Wood was the real winner of the 1968 Olympics. Have added your post to this 1968 Olympic restrospective.

    Originally, when this thread was started, only the videos for the Ladies event were available. Accordingly, it covered only that competition. Later, when the videos for the mens and pairs events became available as well, it was extended to cover the entire Olympic figure skating event.

    Here are the videos again from post 43 above and elsewhere in the thread:-

    LADIES

    Gold: Peggy Fleming - USA

    Free Skate

    Free Skate - 2nd Version

    Free Skate - 3rd Version

    Free Skate - 4th Version

    Silver: Gabriele Seyfert - East Germany

    Free Skate

    Free Skate - 2nd Version

    Bronze: Hana Maskova - Czechoslovakia

    Free Skate (Complete)

    Free Skate - 2nd Version - short clip at beginning of video

    4th: Albertina Noyes - USA

    Free Skate

    Free Skate - 2nd Version

    5th: Beatrix Schuba - Austria

    Free Skate

    6th: Zsuzsa Almassy - Hungary

    Free Skate

    9th: Janet Lynn - USA

    Free Skate

    12th: Elena Shcheglova - USSR

    Free Skate

    16th: Galina Grzhibovskaya - USSR

    Free Skate

    MENS

    Gold: Wolfgang Schwarz - Austria

    Free Skate

    Silver: Tim Wood - USA

    Free Skate

    Bronze: Patrick Péra - France

    Still no video available apart from this very short clip (16 seconds in to the video)

    4th: Emmerich Danzer - Austria

    Free Skate

    5th: Gary Visconti - USA

    Free Skate

    6th: John Misha Petkevich - USA

    Free Skate

    9th: Sergei Chetverukhin - USSR

    Free Skate

    18th: Sergei Volkov - USSR

    Free Skate

    26th: Jan Hoffmann - East Germany

    Free Skate

    PAIRS

    Gold: Ludmila Protopopov & Oleg Protopopov - USSR

    Free Skate

    Free Skate - 2nd Version

    Silver: Tatyana Zhuk & Aleksandr Gorelik - USSR

    Free Skate

    Bronze: Margot Glockshuber & Wolfgang Danne - West Germany

    Free Skate

    4th: Heidemarie Steiner & Heinz-Ulrich Walther - East Germany

    Free Skate

    5th: Tamara Moskvina & Alexei Mishin - USSR

    Free Skate

    6th: Cynthia Kauffman & Ronald Kauffman - USA

    Free Skate

    Free Skate - 2nd Version
     
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  10. KimGOAT

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    Tim Wood should have won those Olympics. :( He was such an elegant skater with more technical difficulty and artistry than the wooden Wolfgang Schwartz. Horrible judging.
     
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  11. skatesindreams

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    Tim would have won, if the judge who wanted to change the incorrect score he gave to Tim, had been allowed to do so.
    The requested correction was denied,
     
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  12. KimGOAT

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    That is awful to hear. Why wasnt the judge allowed to change his score. Why wasnt he atleast awarded a 2nd gold like that synchro swimmer, I think Babb Sprague was her name, was after a judges error kept her from winning when the calculation later showed she would have.
     
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  14. Sylvia

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    Thank you, @floskate! Re-posting from the Japanese skating thread in GSD:
    Here is a rare treat for Japanese skating fans. Kumiko Okawa finished 8th at the 1968 Winter Olympics and 5th at both the 1967 and 1968 World Championships. Here you can see her beautiful free skating from Grenoble, showcasing the technique and skating skills the Sato family has long been renowned for. Kumiko and Nobuo married and their daughter Yuka was the 1994 World Champion. Mr & Mrs Sato have gained great respect as renowned skating coaches, training a plethora of great Japanese skaters including Miki Ando, Yukari Nakano, Shizuka Arakawa, Takahiko Kozuka and perhaps most famously, Mao Asada.
     
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  15. floskate

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    Thanks for cross posting @Sylvia
     
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  16. Weve3

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    I also agree that Tim Wood was beyond shortchanged. The judging was a travesty! The lengths they went to avoid a controversy only led to more, as it still resonates today. A shame, for Tim Wood and the sport.
     
  17. pollyanna

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    Oooh, love the axel in both directions. That was a gorgeous free skate, she has beautiful glide over the ice.
     
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  18. skatesindreams

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    The INA archives are a gold mine. The "memory of french television". Everything that has ever been broadcasted on french tv stations, since 1945, centralized and the oldies now nearly 100% digitalized for preservation.
    A researcher would be able to extract sooo much out of them. What they have on their website is barely a scratch at the surface.
     
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  20. skatesindreams

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    I wish that they could be encouraged to share more of the skating that must be in their archives.
     
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  21. Maofan7

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  22. Nmsis

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    That would be possible if a skating institution had a partnership with the INA. Like the french fed or the ISU.
    Otherwise, figure skating is a needle in a haystack of millions of hours of broadcasting and the INA has no reason to push skating videos forward.
     
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