manhn
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The idea is that adults socialized more while younger people did their activity and left. Ya know, because younger people are more mature. Goodness, us adults are so embarrassing.
While I laughed at this post, I have to say that my experience with youth sports vs. adult sports is that with youth sports, the parents bring their kids very close to when they start and take them home once things are over. My experience with adult sports is that often we'll all meet up afterward for coffee or even a meal and that people deliberately come early to socialize and often stay after to socialize.The idea is that adults socialized more while younger people did their activity and left. Ya know, because younger people are more mature. Goodness, us adults are so embarrassing.
Yes, this is exactly what I read 4 or 5 years ago (or maybe longer), that droplets of mucous are suspended in the air longer in the air in the rink. I think it is a no-brainer that the virus should spread more easily in a rink, given the way all the skaters at the rink passed colds and flus around every winter.The Washington Post reports that scientists are trying to figure out why ice hockey is being so heavily hit by *********, compared to other youth sports. They think it may be certain behaviors, yes, but also the physical environment of the rinks.
Some of the issues that may be causing ********* issues in hockey could also translate to figure skating. They mention the low temps and low humidity causing suspension of the *****, with the ***** hanging in the air for longer, plus intentionally poor ventilation (to retain the ice), all potentially coming into play in terms of infection rates.
Yes, along with all the negative environmental factors in a rink, I'd also like to repeat some caveats I previously posted about our favorite sport. The nominal 6 ft social distancing guideline applies for people who are stationary or moving slowly, and who are breathing normally. Skaters, of course, are typically moving swiftly and breathing hard. So, if an infected, unmasked skater coughs or sneezes, he can shoot out a large cloud of muck. Under rink conditions, this large cloud of muck can linger well after the infected skater has cleared out. Then along comes an innocent skater who perceives that the coast is clear, but instead skates right into the cloud and deeply sucks in a load of muck.The Washington Post reports that scientists are trying to figure out why ice hockey is being so heavily hit by *********, compared to other youth sports. They think it may be certain behaviors, yes, but also the physical environment of the rinks.
Some of the issues that may be causing ********* issues in hockey could also translate to figure skating. They mention the low temps and low humidity causing suspension of the *****, with the ***** hanging in the air for longer, plus intentionally poor ventilation (to retain the ice), all potentially coming into play in terms of infection rates.
I read the Gov's announcement soooo closely looking for a loophole. But no sports and no entertainment facilities --The Governor of Pennsylvania has issued new ********* restrictions beginning Saturday the 12th and extending until January 4th.
"All K-12 indoor and outdoor sports and extracurricular activities must be halted, he said, and indoor gyms and fitness classes must temporarily shut down. All in-person businesses in the entertainment industry, including theaters, concert venues, museums, movie theaters, and casinos, must also close."
Included are no indoor gatherings of more than 10 people. Already heard that my rink will be closed, and I don't think the others in the state are going to be able to squirm their way out of following the rules that they did earlier this year. Yes, it's crappy, but thank you to the "maskholes" and the "I'll do me" crowd for getting us to where we are today (and the elected "leadership" that led the way to this debacle).
Not everyone needs a flu shot, and it's something that can be recovered from without a hospital stay 99% of the time.Do skaters normally take the flu shot every year? Wondering why not if flu is so commonly passed on amongst them.
So sorry to hear about your sister’s BF! That’s so sad!This is getting off-topic, but just like the other plague, people who are young and healthy don't generally die of the flu but they do pass it on to people who will. Depending on the strain and severity there have been flu shot shortages in the past, and usually at least in my area it's always been that healthcare workers, teachers, older folks, and other susceptible groups are the ones most urged to get the shot every year. Most skaters are not in that target group. This year was different because of our already over-strained hospitals, and there were big campaigns geared toward getting everyone to get a shot since outcomes for anything aren't very good if there are not enough hospital beds to go around.
(My sister's best friend died of influenza complications- and he was an extremely fit and otherwise healthy young man in his early thirties. It does happen.)
Are rinks in DE open? I was wondering about skaters that made nationals, such as Gracie though I’m sure there are others and where they are going for ice time.Just got a Facebook update from a colleague who son is a hockey player. Lots of photos and none wearing masks. Ugh. When you see those photos, you understand why rinks are shut.
Our rinks (Pennsylvania) are to re-open 1/4. Really hoping they will.
Yes.Are rinks in DE open?
I was surprised to learn that the Phila BlueCross / River Rink is open. A local news station had it for background during the weather report. It was full -- even capped at 50 people (if it was), there is no distancing there.Just got a Facebook update from a colleague who son is a hockey player. Lots of photos and none wearing masks. Ugh. When you see those photos, you understand why rinks are shut.
Our rinks (Pennsylvania) are to re-open 1/4. Really hoping they will.
That is an outdoor rink.I was surprised to learn that the Phila BlueCross / River Rink is open. A local news station had it for background during the weather report. It was full -- even capped at 50 people (if it was), there is no distancing there.
I know that it is an outdoor rink. But from a *****-spreading perspective, it looks dangerous to me.That is an outdoor rink.
Given the bad scenario that NJ is in (though not as extreme as, e.g., CA), I was surprised to hear that. It's too early for the consequences of Christmas celebrations to show up in the metrics; and, of course, the consequences of New Year's celebrations are yet to come. I watched the replay of Gov. Murphy's press conference of 12/30/2020 (https://www.facebook.com/pix11news/videos/436915600798321/) to find out his rationale. Essentially, he said that, although some of the metrics are not good, at least they are stable. More importantly, he said that his team didn't think that they would change much over the next couple of weeks; hence, there was no point in waiting to make a decision on restarting indoor youth sports. His charts indicate the daily positivity test rate has been >10% since early Nov, but the transmission rate has been hovering around 1 and not taking off. I think they're banking a lot on the transmission rate (and the fact that hospitals are not overwhelmed, as in other states).The governor of NJ will be allowing youth sports to happen indoors again, with certain limits. That means that as of Jan (I think it's Jan 4), Learn to Skate classes can happen.
One caveat here. Although providing a detailed written set of protocols is certainly a good step, the degree to which the rink enforces the protocols is crucial. Rinks face the same challenges as other businesses such as restaurants: to succeed under this C*V*D environment requires extra resources, both money for protective equipment of various flavors and staff to implement the health protocols. At the same time, they have a reduced, iffy income stream and are faced with the constant threat of sudden shutdowns. Some factors are under their own control (e.g., not letting hockey jocks run amok), but many are not (e.g., illicit religious ceremonies, frat parties, and raves cause the local community positivity rate to exceed a specified threshold for a specified number of consecutive days, triggering a declaration of the local community as a hot zone, with restrictions on a broad class of businesses and activities).The rink I normally skate out sent out a very detailed pdf on policies for skating beginning next week (restrictions on "fitness centers" will be lifted as of Monday in PA). I appreciate their attention to detail, but not for me yet. Maybe March/April depending on how vaccinations go.