Papadakis/Cizeron #6 - Season's Over - Let's Get Drunk!

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Seems like they're the last top team to reveal their music but that's no surprise. Some of the music choices from Gadbois so far have been a bit, um, concerning. I suddenly have this powerful thirst to know their selections.
 
Seems like they're the last top team to reveal their music but that's no surprise. Some of the music choices from Gadbois so far have been a bit, um, concerning. I suddenly have this powerful thirst to know their selections.
I think for the most part people have liked the tango choices at least. But P/C always are involved in the music selections anyways.
 
Seems like they're the last top team to reveal their music but that's no surprise. Some of the music choices from Gadbois so far have been a bit, um, concerning. I suddenly have this powerful thirst to know their selections.
I do share your concerns especially since many want them to depart and try a totally new style. Let see, I have zero idea what it could be. I also wonder if Christopher Dean and they will have chosen a non traditional tango like their oh so controversial Ed Sheeran Latin. We have two more weeks to wait, very little yet too long :biggrinbo

From a nice poster in GS, here is a little taste (also sur Insta), excellent frame and extension. Guillaume was really born to danse, his posture is drool worthy and she has great extension with her free leg, it was already evident during the step sequence in their 2016 Waltz.
 
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I also wonder if Christopher Dean and they will have chosen a non traditional tango like their oh so controversial Ed Sheeran Latin.

“Shape of you by” Ed Sheeran was a fantastic choice, modern and meeting all ISU SD criteria. The rhumba ISU rules were all about the rhythm and not the music style. It’s very clear now that the short dance is renamed rhythmic dance.

Ed Sheeran “controversy” was a fake propaganda driven by Skate Canada and their uber V/M fans hence there’s no need to promote it, especially in this thread.
 
“Shape of you by” Ed Sheeran was a fantastic choice, modern and meeting all ISU SD criteria. The rhumba ISU rules were all about the rhythm and not the music style. It’s very clear now that the short dance is renamed rhythmic dance.

Ed Sheeran “controversy” was a fake propaganda driven by Skate Canada and their uber V/M fans hence there’s no need to promote it, especially in this thread.
Some more delusions?
 
I do share your concerns especially since many want them to depart and try a totally new style. Let see, I have zero idea what it could be. I also wonder if Christopher Dean and they will have chosen a non traditional tango like their oh so controversial Ed Sheeran Latin. We have two more weeks to wait, very little yet too long :biggrinbo

From a nice poster in GS, here is a little taste (also sur Insta), excellent frame and extension. Guillaume was really born to danse, his posture is drool worthy and she has great extension with her free leg, it was already evident during the step sequence in their 2016 Waltz.

I am so ready for a non-traditional tango. After watching 3 events and a few juniors, the repetitiveness of the music is already wearing on me. If people complain endlessly like with the Latin, well to quote my new favorite junior, kisses to everyone!

I deduce from that photo that their tango will be awesome.
 
I just want to see a well done tango; and so far no one I have seen has had the dance ability to really do a tango well. Gadbois does seem to be doing the best job with the tango romantica out of everyone; but it's a complex dance that has do be understood in a complex way: you can't just throw adjectives around like sexy and passionate and think that you are adequately describing the tango, and that seems to be a lot of what we are getting.

That one picture on instagram too convinces me P/C's programme will be superlative, whether traditional or not. I also think they will have to intelligence to properly analyse the dance and give us something more than a superficial reading of what a tango is.
 
.... hence there’s no need to promote it, especially in this thread.
It was absolutely not my intention.
I am so ready for a non-traditional tango. After watching 3 events and a few juniors, the repetitiveness of the music is already wearing on me. If people complain endlessly like with the Latin, well to quote my new favorite junior, kisses to everyone!

I deduce from that photo that their tango will be awesome.
I loved their SD last year even though I was not a fan of Ed Sheeran but it fitted their youthfulness so well and they clearly had such a blast dancing it, it was infectious. But I wanted to see them interpret a more traditional tango. Still, like you after watching a few events, I also get bored with the repetitiveness. Anyway whatever they choose, they indeed look extremely commanding in that one photo which bodes well.
 
Not an illusion but a delusion!
I obviously used “illusion” instead of “delusion” on purpose. Didn’t you get that?

As for delusion, come on dear Emdee! Don’t tell me a “well known member” like you is THAT ignorant of what’s going on behind the curtains ? Read Phil Hersch but you probably think all his papers about Skate Canada are delusions as well, right? Let me see... So far, the best for you is to ask your friend Leana Caron (and her henchmen). I’m sure she has a lot of interesting stories to tell you... the hidden part of the iceberg...in private of course.
 
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Wont bother with Phil Hersh. But, still think you are delusionary.

I know for sure that the big guns jockey for podium positions. I would rather they didnt as pure skating, dance and versatility should triumph,

That being said I hope PC’s new programs are unique and experimental. They have such a beautiful skating style and immense talent.
 
I hope PC’s new programs are unique and experimental. They have such a beautiful skating style and immense talent.

Well, as you probably know, they started their preparation at the beginning of July hence later than previous seasons with a 2-weeks break (for “The Ice 2018” shows in Japan). They prepared the tango with Chris Dean in Colorado Springs and then the free dance in Toronto with another figure skating legend (I let you guess who is this legend...).

They work on both programs but they mostly focus - so far - on the tango. The RD music composition chosen by Chris Dean with G&G is really interesting as it combines both a typical tango sensual atmosphere and a more catchy part. This mix is great imHo. As usual, some people will love it, others won’t.

Back from Colorado Springs, G&G started to implement the RD. One thing makes this tango quite unique: Guillaume’s key contribution and talent to develop in Montréal the choreography designed by Chris in California. In other words, two choreographers are involved: Chris, experienced choreographer, and Guillaume, choreographer in the making. On top of that, Gabriella enhances the whole piece with her talents as interpreter. So I let you guess how interesting and amazing it was to see them preparing this rhytmic dance in Gadbois with one leading the choreography and the other one driving the interpretation. Though they have been always directly involved in their own programs, I feel like this involvement becomes more and more proeminent.

So let’s see in about 10 days the tango they will perform in Villard-de-Lans for the French Masters.
 
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I am looking forward to their programs.
I still remember the first year they came to prominence when they skated at the Autumn classic. I was spellbound. They just carried me along with them.
 
They prepared the tango with Chris Dean in Colorado Springs and then the free dance in Toronto with another figure skating legend (I let you guess who is this legend...).

Lambiel?
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bk_IEVwnEqN/?hl=en&taken-by=guillaume_cizeron

Can someone point me to a program choreographed by Lambiel that you love? Other than Deniss Vasiljevs, I'm drawing a blank about his choreo.

They work on both programs but they mostly focus - so far - on the tango. The RD music composition chosen by Chris Dean with G&G is really interesting as it combines both a typical tango sensual atmosphere and a more catchy part. This mix is great imHo. As usual, some people will love it, others won’t.

So not a traditional interpretation? After watching the new RDs this week, I hope they do go somewhat traditional for the costuming. I think Katsalapov wearing a black jacket added something to impression he created. (Yes, it also helps he had the best expression and bearing and sharpness of movement for a tango so far.) Gabriella could wear her paso doble dress minus the long skirt and bling and I'll be happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82T5BLniUm0
 
Lambiel?
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bk_IEVwnEqN/?hl=en&taken-by=guillaume_cizeron

Can someone point me to a program choreographed by Lambiel that you love? Other than Deniss Vasiljevs, I'm drawing a blank about his choreo.



So not a traditional interpretation? After watching the new RDs this week, I hope they do go somewhat traditional for the costuming. I think Katsalapov wearing a black jacket added something to impression he created. (Yes, it also helps he had the best expression and bearing and sharpness of movement for a tango so far.) Gabriella could wear her paso doble dress minus the long skirt and bling and I'll be happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82T5BLniUm0
Check out the Canadians. :)
 
Can you be more specific? I don't even know what discipline you mean.

Check out his wikipedia page: it lists who he worked with, and the individual pages of those he has worked with list which programmes are by him. The most notable programmes (as wikipedia states) he has worked on are The Player ones by Denis Ten (with Lori Nichol). A lot of the programmes he has done for some reason are exhibition ones. I wonder what the rationale behind wanting to work with him is. One thing about Lambiel though is he is an incredibly influential skater: his contribution to the sport may not be readily available in terms of designated choreographies, but it's hard to watch a singles programme where he has not had some influence, esp. in term of spins (he has also choreographed for Shoma Uno, and their is a clear relationship between their two styles, a point underlined in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLICgYjZG9Y); and I could see why from his own skating in terms of speed across the ice, whilst physically being quite quirky, along with his other contributions to the sport, would make him an interesting collaborator.

Take for instance, this move here. Would work great as a twizzle in a step sequence. https://youtu.be/Oj4o6XbzCGs?t=1m14s His skating is full of moves like this we have never not seen imported to ice dance.

Also, take a look at this sequence....... The choreo step sequences I've seen so far this year have had little new or inventive to them. This, adapted, by contrast...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj4o6XbzCGs

Watching this whole piece in fact, I see very clearly why P/C would want to work with him....... There's just so much invention....
 
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Can someone point me to a program choreographed by Lambiel that you love? Other than Deniss Vasiljevs, I'm drawing a blank about his choreo.

He often works as a co-choreographer, building sections of a program rather than doing the whole thing - he did a step sequence for Kolyada last season that was well-received, though it got watered down a lot over the course of the season because jumps, and a portion of the Shibs' free dance that I liked a lot. I know he choreographed for Camden Pulkinen this season - free skate, I think - but I haven't seen the program yet.

Lambiel's always been fascinated by ice dance and has said in the past that it's his favorite discipline to watch, and as he's moved into show skating I think you can see more and more of its influence in his own work. It would be interesting to see what he would do with a full-length ice dance choreo, even if he's building detail around a structure created by someone else a la Jeffrey Cirio last year.
 
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