No-Longer-Prince Andrew

[MsZem]

The furthest away the King could shuffle him, the better..........Orkney Islands maybe?

The Orkney library deserves better than that

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[Winnipeg]

ok, sorry, I was just trying to find a place really far away for the king to send Andres to live. I thought there might be a royal cottage there? I did not mean have his pic in the local library, rather he move there to be out of sight for awhile.

 

[MsZem]

Maybe Booky McBookface could drop a HUGE pile of books on him.

(Orkney Library has the best social media, along with the Museum of English Rural Life)

 

[overedge]

Re the reference to Epstein providing finances to Fergie and possibly to B and E, is that true? I thought Fergie had money problems because she spent more than she had but I was unaware that was true for the girls who would have their own finances?

Read "Entitled". The author does a very in-depth analysis of Fergie's income and expenditures. She didn't just spend more than she had, she had a very extravagant lifestyle and left unpaid bills all over the place. And she did more than a few shady business deals, not just taking money from Epstein.

Epstein was a horrific person but he was also very smart. He identified people that were vulnerable - in Fergie's case, emotionally and financially vulnerable - and he knew how to effectively exploit those vulnerabilities.

 

[canbelto]

Camila received Gisele Pelicot today. Besides it being a worthy engagement, I also love the shade at Andrew.

 

[puglover]

Read "Entitled". The author does a very in-depth analysis of Fergie's income and expenditures. She didn't just spend more than she had, she had a very extravagant lifestyle and left unpaid bills all over the place. And she did more than a few shady business deals, not just taking money from Epstein.

Epstein was a horrific person but he was also very smart. He identified people that were vulnerable - in Fergie's case, emotionally and financially vulnerable - and he knew how to effectively exploit those vulnerabilities.

I find that description "financially vulnerable" thought provoking. Just off the top of my head but I can't help but wonder if that has been and will continue to be a problem for siblings/cousins who are not heirs to the throne and don't have the financial security that goes with it. They grow up in palaces, go to the very best of schools, mix with the most wealthy and privileged, are called HRH but what in fact do they really inherit? They no doubt feel entitled to the best that life has to offer but can neither provide that themselves or receive it thanks to the taxpayers. They may live in some huge home but it takes a fortune to keep a place like that up. I am not excusing Andrew and Fergie's behaviour but can see where someone lacking in scruples would sell position, influence, their soul to the highest bidder and feel somewhat entitled to do so.

 

[Karen-W]

I find that description "financially vulnerable" thought provoking. Just off the top of my head but I can't help but wonder if that has been and will continue to be a problem for siblings/cousins who are not heirs to the throne and don't have the financial security that goes with it. They grow up in palaces, go to the very best of schools, mix with the most wealthy and privileged, are called HRH but what in fact do they really inherit? They no doubt feel entitled to the best that life has to offer but can neither provide that themselves or receive it thanks to the taxpayers. They may live in some huge home but it takes a fortune to keep a place like that up. I am not excusing Andrew and Fergie's behaviour but can see where someone lacking in scruples would sell position, influence, their soul to the highest bidder and feel somewhat entitled to do so.

All of the late Queen Mother's grandchildren as well as her great-grandchildren born before her death in 2001 (with the exception of Charles & maybe William as direct heirs) received generous trust funds from her estate. Harry also has a trust fund from his mother's estate. It's not known whether the late QEII set up trust funds for her children, grandchildren & great-grandchildren but one has to think she did. With a good financial advisor, they're all set up for a very comfortable lifestyle. The problem with Andrew & Sarah (and likely with Harry & Meghan) is their lifestyle has been lavish & excessive.

 

[Icetalavista]

Well, maybe their parents should have a financial come-to- Jesus talk with them in their very early teens and ensure they begin preparing to support themselves as adults. But that would assume the royal parents know how the 99% world works, which is not a given

 

[Icetalavista]

ok, sorry, I was just trying to find a place really far away for the king to send Andres to live. I thought there might be a royal cottage there? I did not mean have his pic in the local library, rather he move there to be out of sight for awhile.

Tristan da Cunha

 

[Vagabond]

If St. Helena was good enough for the likes of Napoleon Bonaparte, it would be good enough for Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor.

 

[overedge]

I find that description "financially vulnerable" thought provoking. Just off the top of my head but I can't help but wonder if that has been and will continue to be a problem for siblings/cousins who are not heirs to the throne and don't have the financial security that goes with it. They grow up in palaces, go to the very best of schools, mix with the most wealthy and privileged, are called HRH but what in fact do they really inherit? They no doubt feel entitled to the best that life has to offer but can neither provide that themselves or receive it thanks to the taxpayers. They may live in some huge home but it takes a fortune to keep a place like that up. I am not excusing Andrew and Fergie's behaviour but can see where someone lacking in scruples would sell position, influence, their soul to the highest bidder and feel somewhat entitled to do so.

Well, the only current heirs to the throne with a reasonable chance to inherit it are William and Kate's kids. Andrew's in the line of succession but something really awful would have to happen for him to become King.

Andrew apparently has, or had, money that he inherited from his mother and grandmother. That has been his main income, along with whatever his brother has given him or not required him to pay, and whatever his mother gave him during her lifetime. But pretty much all of that is gone.

Fergie isn't from a titled family, but because her dad was a polo manager for the Royals, she was around them all the time when she was growing up. Most of whatever money she has is from Andrew or from shady financial deals. She netted almost nothing from her books and her other "ventures".

But the bigger issue is that for both of them, they want everything, and nothing is enough for them. Like when Fergie went on tours in the US to promote her kids' books, she demanded five-star hotels wherever she stayed. And she would come back with literally dozens of suitcases of clothes, furnishings, etc that she bought. That's ridiculous considering the number of copies that those books sold. She's not JK Rowling or Dav Pilkey.

They're both incredibly greedy and will do whatever they can to bring in cash. And they both have huge egos. Epstein saw both of those things, and exploited them.