We do? I've never seen May 8th or Sept 2nd commemorated in the US in the 50 years I've been alive.
I don't think Russian skaters will be back next season - or, at least not next fall. Maybe by Euros next winter, they'll be allowed back in, but they'll be lucky if any of their skaters are assigned to the GP if Russia's still warring in July.
Do you know that the Ukrainians fought alongside the Russians? Ukraine suffered more in World War II. But Russia behaves as if the victory belongs to Russia and no one else. RUSSIA DOES NOT OWN THE VICTORY!!! And these shows are disgusting.
And timing, "entourage" etc of this show - just like the number Averbukh had in his TV show - have absolutely no connection to what is happening right now (because I don't remember something like this happening 10 years ago, no any ice show, not any anniversary commemorated, you see).
They have done this many times in recent years why is Ukraine so special?
To tell the truth it makes me really uncomfortable when there is this assumption of "if the war is still ongoing they will be banned". Even if there is no war in July (and we all hope and pray for that, of course), the damage russia caused can't be "undone" the day after any peace agreement is signed. I mean, Japan and Germany were banned from the 1948 Olympics, I don't see why for russia it should be earlier than that.
A tennis player at the Australian Open is competing for himself. When that same tennis player competes at the Olympics, he is competing as representative of his National Olympic Committee based on the nomination of his national tennis federation.
Exactly. The issue isn't whether athletes live and train in Russia or even whether they support the war. It's whether they represent Russia, raise the Russian flag and get the Russian anthem played. Personally, I hope many years pass before this happens again.
Not before Russia fully compensates Ukraine for the damage done, in any case!
Oh, I agree, but this is the IOC under Thomas Bach. He's bending and twisting every which way he can to get Russian athletes back in international sports competitions sooner rather than later.
It would be a mighty fine trick to see ice hockey players competing in Paris 2024, seeing as ice hockey is still a WOG sport...
"Rhythm Without Russians." Thread title alert!So did I! I'm looking at the clock thinking "6 hours to go until I can sleep!" and debating whether I want to get up 7 hours later for the entire Euros RD.
They skated perfectly well without flag and anthem before. So if that would be the only requirement from them I don't see why not. But if they would be asked to publicly confirm that they are against the war, that would be a very different story. But will they be asked? Sounds like they won't.
Yes and no. I mean, they had Tchaikovsky played instead of their national anthem. But their team uniforms and jackets were emblazoned with the Russian tricolor. What if they were told they had to listen to the IOC or IF anthem instead of their precious Tchaikovsky? And that applied to all sporting events, not just the Olympics? What if they were told they could only wear black or grey jackets with absolutely NO Russian insignia or colors and no sponsors patches from sanctioned Russian companies?
They will do whatever they want and the government will let them. As you can often read here: athletes are afraid, but they are against war. They are victims of a totalitarian regime. The russian government will say the same thing: athletes are afraid, but they are against Western aggression. They are victims of the West. We must allow them to compete, because we are not like the West. We all know perfectly well that our athletes are real patriots and they support the actions of our great president Putin
Dunno. If they will not be asked by Russia it will be up to the who? ISU? IOC? to.make sure Pluschenkos and Zhulins don't show up. It might be easier for the ISU/IOC if the Russians were asked by Russia, frankly
That's the point. I don't think they will be asked, based on very vague definition IOC uses. Also, I don't think anyone will make sure "Pluschenkos and Zhulins don't show up" (and I pretty much expect them to show up even)
Thank you for this additional history lesson since I, as a person with Soviet (not only Russian!) roots, have also lost a bunch of relatives during WWII and am alive now because my own father and his family barely survived the siege of Leningrad.
Do you ever even think before posting?
What’s the problem?
"Russians without Rhythm" could have been the description of their nationals last season."Rhythm Without Russians." Thread title alert!
If the war had not started, Averbukh wouldn't have done that show. Get real. It's not like he doe a show like this every year. He did it to celebrate the war and for no other reason.
As @Karen-W said, no we don't. Where did you get such an idea? I can't find any holidays even remotely close to those dates having anything to do with any World War.
Like any of that would happen under that weasel Bach.
Subtext totally escapes you, doesn't it?
I think the closest you could get would be commemorations on the big anniversaries of either VE Day or VJ Day. For example, for the 75th anniversary in 2020, which was rather toned down due to the pandemic.
I’d prefer a solemn commemoration of the war’s victims to a rah-rah military parade anywhere. The kind of pro-military celebration beloved in the Kremlin (and Trump, who wanted one for July 4) is actually reminiscent of the Nazis venerating the Wehrmacht.
Nazi russian celerating their "victory" is not alright.
