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Olga Ermolina's interview with Daria Panenkova `Everyone should be true to themselves' for fsrussia.ru
OE: What did you think of your skate in the JGPF?
DP: Am glad I did my job, reached my goal for this competition. We changed thej umps in the programme because throughout the season I got an edge on the flip with a !. The coaches and I decided the marks would be higher if we change the flip on a loop. My loop is quite consistent. I do one loop jump in a combo with a toeloop and another alone.
OE: It's your first time in the JGPF. How hard was it here?
DP: I loved skating in the JGPF. I was not really worried before the skates, it was easy skating here. I am satisfied with both of my programmes except for a flip in the SP. If it was not for that flip, perhaps I would have placed higher.
OE: What was the most memorable?
DP: The amount of people. I've never skated in front of so many people, never felt such a support from the crowd. After every skate we received so many gifts. It was really nice.
OE: Dasha, you said you became a skater following your aunt's example. Is it so?
DP: That's right, my aunt Svetlana Hlebushkina was a skater. I've never seen her skating, but I know she switched from the singles to the pairs but decided not to become a professional athlete.
My mom, just like her sister, was also skating when she was young. She also swam and did gymnastics, but she as well did not become a professional athlete.
OE: Why did your parents take you skating?
DP: Health issues. The doctors gave a choice: skating or swimming. Since a new rink `Sozvezdie' was opened near our home mom said `let's go'.
We spent all the weekends on the ice. Of course I don't remember that, but mom told me the first time I was on the ice I was given a penguin to hold. I did one round with it, threw the thing away and said `I want to do it myself'. I was running, falling, getting up and running again. Mom offered to help, but I didn't want it. I wanted to do it myself.
OE: How old were you?
DP: Probably 4. From that moment I was looking forward for the weekends to go skating again. Later I joined a group. My first coach was Galina Mikhailovna, unfortunately I can't recall her last name. She was saying that I have some gift and some potential.
When I was about 7-8 mom and I decided if I liked skating so much we should move on. She recalled my aunt was training under Natalia Gavrilova (Marianski), found her phone number, called and asked for an audition. After the audition the coach agreed to accept me. This is how I ended up on `Khrustalny' rink.
OE: Was it easy to learn the jumps?
DP: I remember it took me a while to learn the triple jumps. I.e. I was jumping them, but underotating. Natalia Vladimirovna was married to Igor Pashkevich. He came to a practice once and offered his help. For me it was an amazing opportunity. After a while I was landing all the tripples.
OE: How was he teaching? What was special?
DP: Igor payed attention to the details - where should the arm go, how to speed up, hot to put a leg, when to push and when not. He was showing the entrances, he would work on my jumps on the smallest details. I remember when I was learning the toe loop he stood where I should had taken off, so I would not turn and jump from the straight line.
I really liked working with Igor. He always found the right words even if things didn't work immediately. He was a good man and a good coach. He helped everyone who asked for his help. He even came to the training camps. He could explain really well and most important, he showed how to enter the and do the jump.
OE: So you started landing the triples, what then?
DP: Then I was competing in the Moscow competition but not much happened. I would be 15-17th, there was no consistency in my jumps. I wouldn't even land them every practice. I would land them all today and nothing tomorrow. I couldn't get it all together in one programme. The gliding was not good enough, so the component marks went down. All and all it was just not working.
Mom even wanted me to quit the skating school. I also had some pain in my heel to add to all that. The `Volkov Memorial' competition saved me. I told my mom `If I don't land my jumps that's it, I'm quitting'. It was 3-4 years ago.
So imagine, I was on the way in the underground, thinking of every jump. I was recalling Igor Pashkevich and his words to the tiniest details how it should go. And I skated clean both programmes.
OE: And did not quit.
DP: Continued. And then I had to improve my skating skills, work on my spins, become more consistent. So we decided to go to Eteri Tutberidze. It's strange we haven't thought of that before - after all we were on the same rink? Perhaps if we switched earlier the results would come earlier.
Anyway, we switched. The first year I was not as consistent as I am now. I had things to improve in my skating, but then I thought `perhaps I should learn the rippon jumps?'. When I did my jumps became consistent. When I do the jumps rippon I feel more confident. But I still have to work on a lot of things: the gliding, the back.. the skater's posture should be beautiful, my posture is so so, but I try to work on that. It's not easy though. When you skate your programme you have to think of the edges, jumps, the arms and thinking of the posture on the top of that is hard.
But I try to control myself. When I sit down to do my homework I mind my back. My grandmother would give me a stick, I would put it on my shoulders and walk home with the stick on my shoulders. Sometimes I would even work on the SS with that stick. But I still have a lot to improve.
OE: What was unusual in Tutberidze's group?
DP: The sheer approach. In Natalia Vladimirovna's group I would go on the ice with a serious face, I knew I had to do my job and get it done on time. I was stressed and focused. It's not that am not thinking about my job now, but I feel more free mentally. The coaches can make a joke and laugh. Or scorn if something does not work. I can cry sometimes, but I don't let it happen often. However, the atmosphere here is different and there is a competition.
Of course each of us works on her plan during the practice. But when you do a jump or skate through your programme you have to look out not to bump into the others. You turn your head and focus on someone. If I see Sasha Trusova did a 3lz3loop I think I should learn that combo with a loop. I started learning it now, I don't want to be left behind the girls. Or take Alena Kostornaya. I love her gliding. It pushes me. I want to be as good or better. It's the same with everyone. We are a great group.
OE: This year was your first time in the JGP circuit and you made it to the JGPF.
DP: The first GP in Riga I was quite calm before the SP, but so nervous before the LP.. I can't even put it into words. Rika Kihara was skating before me and I didn't know how did she do. I realized a smallest mistake would take me off the podium. Guess that nervousness was what put me down. I made 2 mistakes. But since I had a gap after the SP I remained the first.
That mistake on the loop happened again in Kazan in a Russian Cup. I fell from it. And loop is my warm up jump! the easiest! The jump I can land through my sleep. But guess in Riga I was too calm and thought I would make it. In Kazan I landed it with no knee bend in the warm up, but it was ok. In the actual competition my leg went down, but I decided I'll rotate it anyway. The edge gave away and I fell.
The second GP in Poland was better. I only got a ! on the flip edge. I worked on that later. As for the LP - all worked well.
OE: Which programme is your favourite?
DP: This year's SP. I love the entrances into the jumps and the programme. I love the theme. Depending on my mood I can skate the programme differently. I.e. I can express myself, be different and the programme would never become boring.
OE: Except for the sports and the school what do you do in your free time?
DP: I like painting. I keep a diary. In my free day I sit down and write in details what went on in my life this week. For example I can write to which store I went, what did I buy and even add receipts.
OE: Sounds like a documentary.
DP: Right. I watched the TV series `Violetta' where a girl who lost her mom finds mom's diary and finds out what happened in moms' life. I thought I wanted to describe my life in the same manner. I think it will be interesting in, say, 20 years or when I have children of my own to flip through and re-read. A lot of things get forgotten. And there are so many interesting things going on in our lives.
OE: That sounds great. Which skater would you want to resemble?
DP: I don't have an idol, everyone should be true to themselves. But I went to the GP in Moscow and I really liked Nathan Chen. I even wrote a comment in his instagram and we talked a bit.
OE: He replied?
DP: He did. I was shocked. I really wanted to meet him and during the JGPF he congratulated me with my birthday. I was thrilled.
OE: Did the girl who competed with you congratulate you with your birthday?
DP: Yes. Sasha, Alena and Sonia Samodurova. They gave me some birthday presents. It was really nice.
OE: What did you think of your skate in the JGPF?
DP: Am glad I did my job, reached my goal for this competition. We changed thej umps in the programme because throughout the season I got an edge on the flip with a !. The coaches and I decided the marks would be higher if we change the flip on a loop. My loop is quite consistent. I do one loop jump in a combo with a toeloop and another alone.
OE: It's your first time in the JGPF. How hard was it here?
DP: I loved skating in the JGPF. I was not really worried before the skates, it was easy skating here. I am satisfied with both of my programmes except for a flip in the SP. If it was not for that flip, perhaps I would have placed higher.
OE: What was the most memorable?
DP: The amount of people. I've never skated in front of so many people, never felt such a support from the crowd. After every skate we received so many gifts. It was really nice.
OE: Dasha, you said you became a skater following your aunt's example. Is it so?
DP: That's right, my aunt Svetlana Hlebushkina was a skater. I've never seen her skating, but I know she switched from the singles to the pairs but decided not to become a professional athlete.
My mom, just like her sister, was also skating when she was young. She also swam and did gymnastics, but she as well did not become a professional athlete.
OE: Why did your parents take you skating?
DP: Health issues. The doctors gave a choice: skating or swimming. Since a new rink `Sozvezdie' was opened near our home mom said `let's go'.
We spent all the weekends on the ice. Of course I don't remember that, but mom told me the first time I was on the ice I was given a penguin to hold. I did one round with it, threw the thing away and said `I want to do it myself'. I was running, falling, getting up and running again. Mom offered to help, but I didn't want it. I wanted to do it myself.
OE: How old were you?
DP: Probably 4. From that moment I was looking forward for the weekends to go skating again. Later I joined a group. My first coach was Galina Mikhailovna, unfortunately I can't recall her last name. She was saying that I have some gift and some potential.
When I was about 7-8 mom and I decided if I liked skating so much we should move on. She recalled my aunt was training under Natalia Gavrilova (Marianski), found her phone number, called and asked for an audition. After the audition the coach agreed to accept me. This is how I ended up on `Khrustalny' rink.
OE: Was it easy to learn the jumps?
DP: I remember it took me a while to learn the triple jumps. I.e. I was jumping them, but underotating. Natalia Vladimirovna was married to Igor Pashkevich. He came to a practice once and offered his help. For me it was an amazing opportunity. After a while I was landing all the tripples.
OE: How was he teaching? What was special?
DP: Igor payed attention to the details - where should the arm go, how to speed up, hot to put a leg, when to push and when not. He was showing the entrances, he would work on my jumps on the smallest details. I remember when I was learning the toe loop he stood where I should had taken off, so I would not turn and jump from the straight line.
I really liked working with Igor. He always found the right words even if things didn't work immediately. He was a good man and a good coach. He helped everyone who asked for his help. He even came to the training camps. He could explain really well and most important, he showed how to enter the and do the jump.
OE: So you started landing the triples, what then?
DP: Then I was competing in the Moscow competition but not much happened. I would be 15-17th, there was no consistency in my jumps. I wouldn't even land them every practice. I would land them all today and nothing tomorrow. I couldn't get it all together in one programme. The gliding was not good enough, so the component marks went down. All and all it was just not working.
Mom even wanted me to quit the skating school. I also had some pain in my heel to add to all that. The `Volkov Memorial' competition saved me. I told my mom `If I don't land my jumps that's it, I'm quitting'. It was 3-4 years ago.
So imagine, I was on the way in the underground, thinking of every jump. I was recalling Igor Pashkevich and his words to the tiniest details how it should go. And I skated clean both programmes.
OE: And did not quit.
DP: Continued. And then I had to improve my skating skills, work on my spins, become more consistent. So we decided to go to Eteri Tutberidze. It's strange we haven't thought of that before - after all we were on the same rink? Perhaps if we switched earlier the results would come earlier.
Anyway, we switched. The first year I was not as consistent as I am now. I had things to improve in my skating, but then I thought `perhaps I should learn the rippon jumps?'. When I did my jumps became consistent. When I do the jumps rippon I feel more confident. But I still have to work on a lot of things: the gliding, the back.. the skater's posture should be beautiful, my posture is so so, but I try to work on that. It's not easy though. When you skate your programme you have to think of the edges, jumps, the arms and thinking of the posture on the top of that is hard.
But I try to control myself. When I sit down to do my homework I mind my back. My grandmother would give me a stick, I would put it on my shoulders and walk home with the stick on my shoulders. Sometimes I would even work on the SS with that stick. But I still have a lot to improve.
OE: What was unusual in Tutberidze's group?
DP: The sheer approach. In Natalia Vladimirovna's group I would go on the ice with a serious face, I knew I had to do my job and get it done on time. I was stressed and focused. It's not that am not thinking about my job now, but I feel more free mentally. The coaches can make a joke and laugh. Or scorn if something does not work. I can cry sometimes, but I don't let it happen often. However, the atmosphere here is different and there is a competition.
Of course each of us works on her plan during the practice. But when you do a jump or skate through your programme you have to look out not to bump into the others. You turn your head and focus on someone. If I see Sasha Trusova did a 3lz3loop I think I should learn that combo with a loop. I started learning it now, I don't want to be left behind the girls. Or take Alena Kostornaya. I love her gliding. It pushes me. I want to be as good or better. It's the same with everyone. We are a great group.
OE: This year was your first time in the JGP circuit and you made it to the JGPF.
DP: The first GP in Riga I was quite calm before the SP, but so nervous before the LP.. I can't even put it into words. Rika Kihara was skating before me and I didn't know how did she do. I realized a smallest mistake would take me off the podium. Guess that nervousness was what put me down. I made 2 mistakes. But since I had a gap after the SP I remained the first.
That mistake on the loop happened again in Kazan in a Russian Cup. I fell from it. And loop is my warm up jump! the easiest! The jump I can land through my sleep. But guess in Riga I was too calm and thought I would make it. In Kazan I landed it with no knee bend in the warm up, but it was ok. In the actual competition my leg went down, but I decided I'll rotate it anyway. The edge gave away and I fell.
The second GP in Poland was better. I only got a ! on the flip edge. I worked on that later. As for the LP - all worked well.
OE: Which programme is your favourite?
DP: This year's SP. I love the entrances into the jumps and the programme. I love the theme. Depending on my mood I can skate the programme differently. I.e. I can express myself, be different and the programme would never become boring.
OE: Except for the sports and the school what do you do in your free time?
DP: I like painting. I keep a diary. In my free day I sit down and write in details what went on in my life this week. For example I can write to which store I went, what did I buy and even add receipts.
OE: Sounds like a documentary.
DP: Right. I watched the TV series `Violetta' where a girl who lost her mom finds mom's diary and finds out what happened in moms' life. I thought I wanted to describe my life in the same manner. I think it will be interesting in, say, 20 years or when I have children of my own to flip through and re-read. A lot of things get forgotten. And there are so many interesting things going on in our lives.
OE: That sounds great. Which skater would you want to resemble?
DP: I don't have an idol, everyone should be true to themselves. But I went to the GP in Moscow and I really liked Nathan Chen. I even wrote a comment in his instagram and we talked a bit.
OE: He replied?
DP: He did. I was shocked. I really wanted to meet him and during the JGPF he congratulated me with my birthday. I was thrilled.
OE: Did the girl who competed with you congratulate you with your birthday?
DP: Yes. Sasha, Alena and Sonia Samodurova. They gave me some birthday presents. It was really nice.
