2026 Olys Free Dance PBP - Whale, Are We Ready For Some Bull Sheet Scores?

I am going to re-watch the final 3 tonight on our big screen TV because I was using a small iPad screen this morning, but I have to say I barely noticed the issue with Cizeron's twizzle and it was only because the commentary called it out that I realised it was actually something. It didn't seem disruptive at all and as flagged here already it did correctly drop a level. Not the huge error some have seen. Seemed like it could go either way to me. I wasn't invested in who was going to win.
I spotted it straight away, and my neighbours were probably confused because I didn't just cheer I yelled.
I rewatched too and, it’s me saying this so feel free to dismiss, I didn’t think the twizzle was really disruptive at all and it was well disguised. The only thing I saw was a bit of a wobble on the rotational lift, but again well covered.
There were three mistakes: the fall out of the twizzles, his stumble in the step sequence (also on the twizzle), and the lift bobble.
 
I spotted it straight away, and my neighbours were probably confused because I didn't just cheer I yelled.

There were three mistakes: the fall out of the twizzles, his stumble in the step sequence (also on the twizzle), and the lift bobble.
I spotted the fall out on the twizzles right away too and the lift bobble. The step sequence looked off to my eye but I didn't notice the twizzle stumble.
 
I am watching the Primetime edition, just saw C/P, Smart/Dieck, and Z/K. Just wonderful skating by all. I just don't feel like seeing the entire replay tonight. And I tell you one thing I am not going to do...read through this thread. I don't have time for bitterness, negativity and judging athletes based on anything other than brilliant skating. I have watched ice dance for too long to worry over "oh, that's so unfair". And since I already know the results...I am fine with it. Just fine. Especially Piper and Paul getting a medal. So deserving...I remember when they teamed up and I loved them. So many great programs through the years. Way to go!
 
I rewatched too and, it’s me saying this so feel free to dismiss, I didn’t think the twizzle was really disruptive at all and it was well disguised. The only thing I saw was a bit of a wobble on the rotational lift, but again well covered.
I didn’t rewatch yet but when I was watching initially I thought the twizzle error was moderate (she also exited the first set slightly before him if I remember correctly) but I totally saw the wobble on the rotational lift and gasped bc I thought he was going to fling her (they are rotating so fast all it takes is a small slip). Then I thought I must have imagined it bc the GOE was nearly perfect (at least when it was on my screen).
I wanted C/B to win, but I do enjoy FB/C skating (not their off ice choices) and think they are very good. Neither team looks super fast to me, but I think C/B look like they skate “smaller.” It honestly could be because she is so petite. But I think C/B skate closer together and they have more difficult tricks. However, FB/C are the better skaters in my opinion.
I do think C/Bs program hurt them. It improved a ton over the season but it just wasn’t memorable and crowd pleasing enough. I hope they can eventually see all that they have accomplished and leave the sport on a positive note.
 
But would they want to risk finishing second again? And after already winning three world championship gold medals, why bother.
If I were them, I'd say "**** it" and retire immediately. They have nothing to gain by competing at Worlds, and I'd go off and do some press, take a vacation somewhere sunny, then do SOI and, like, Dancing with the Stars or something.
 
I didn’t rewatch yet but when I was watching initially I thought the twizzle error was moderate (she also exited the first set slightly before him if I remember correctly) but I totally saw the wobble on the rotational lift and gasped bc I thought he was going to fling her (they are rotating so fast all it takes is a small slip). Then I thought I must have imagined it bc the GOE was nearly perfect (at least when it was on my screen).
I wanted C/B to win, but I do enjoy FB/C skating (not their off ice choices) and think they are very good. Neither team looks super fast to me, but I think C/B look like they skate “smaller.” It honestly could be because she is so petite. But I think C/B skate closer together and they have more difficult tricks. However, FB/C are the better skaters in my opinion.
I do think C/Bs program hurt them. It improved a ton over the season but it just wasn’t memorable and crowd pleasing enough. I hope they can eventually see all that they have accomplished and leave the sport on a positive note.
I agree with you. C&B's program seemed clinical. I felt it was designed to tick the boxes, both in terms of technical and components which it does. But like I said it didn't have the heart of Piper and Paul, nor the overall skating and expressive quality of FB&C. But they have a gold and silver medal from this Olympics. They have deserved both of those.

Having said that, I think the overall quality of the event was excellent. In the past you might have seen the lower ranked teams have what seems to be a juniorish quality. But every team I saw (missed some in the second group because I was travelling to work) were very good if not excellent quality. The Spanish and Swedes who I have never seen before I thought were really good in terms of skating skills and presentation and have very good potential.

Of course I am going to say Holly and Jason did so well and had a beautiful program and I am really happy for them. Having known, judged and watched Holly since she was a wee little thing in Preliminary to be the skater she is today I am very proud of her and what she has achieved.

The team I felt most for were Lilah and Lewis. You know that is not their usual standard and I was really disappointed for them. I have seen a lot of stuff on other social media who were really ragging on her about skating technique or lack of toe point which surprisingly is something maybe people here mention but I think people are much more supportive of them. Seems to be coming from the armchair critics deciding they are skating experts and posting videos on Instra or Tiktok. I take them with a grain of salt.
 
Maybe I just have different tastes, but the program from the French team just didn’t reach me emotionally or frankly, at all. It was just pretty skating with a couple of glaring mistakes - that mess up in the twizzle from Cizeron was NOT small and absolutely glaring in the replay. I also noticed the pair did not get the audience reaction that C/B and G/P did.

I would have had it USA first, then Canada, then France. But it is what it is. And the personal abuse stories surround both Cizeron and partner (defending Sorenson) just make it harder to bear. Frankly, shameful for the sport. And I’ll leave it there.
 
Just watched the Primetime showing of the FD. Stand by my previous statement of being fine with the podium. That was some gorgeous skating by all. I loved F-B/C, that was a masterclass in edges and flow. Same with Piper and Paul. C/B were fierce and I was touched by their post interview, those tears were real. I like their perspective, they are married and they will be just fine.

I also felt sad for F/G. But they are still young and have time to continue to grow and improve. They are considered a top team and have nothing to be ashamed of. So proud of our USA team, top 10 for all 3!
 
I just watched the CBC broadcast of Piper/Paul and I'm crying again. Especially when Carol was recapping their performance and talking about this season being a fight and a struggle for them. All of their struggles definitely made this moment all the sweeter. They were so devastated after being left off the podium at the GPF but they got their moment when it really counted. I'm pretty confident that their performance will be the moment of these Olympics for me.
 
DH and I watched it on a big screen and DH who has no clue about ice dance looked at me and said “that looked like a mistake. Was it?”
My husband said "Ooh, he made a big mistake coming out of the twizzles."

Once again, I was :oops: and wondering what alien has possessed my husband's body.

He liked G/P the best and didn't like FB/Ciz at all.

I do think C/Bs program hurt them. It improved a ton over the season but it just wasn’t memorable and crowd pleasing enough.
As opposed to FB/Ciz's program?
 
Of course I am going to say Holly and Jason did so well and had a beautiful program and I am really happy for them. Having known, judged and watched Holly since she was a wee little thing in Preliminary to be the skater she is today I am very proud of her and what she has achieved.
I am looking forward to watching them tonight as well. Won't have time to watch the whole thing until the weekend, but I will make time for Holly & Jason plus top 3 (husband hasn't seen any of it yet so will want to watch). I know I said it before but I am so happy to see 'Little Holly' from the skating club gala back in 2011 at the Olympics, and making the Free Dance.
 
Will recap my thoughts from live in the arena later, but all I can say is in my 20+ years of watching live skating, never have I witnessed such a breathtaking, moment-making, career-best performance when it mattered most than tonight from Piper & Paul. I’ve never screamed and jumped and cheered so hard at an event in my life!!! Pure magic and a night I will never ever forget.
 
Real time reaction.

Lopareva/Brissaud: Gosh… Bjork is making my ears hurt. I know I’m supposed to like her and she’s a connoisseur’s artist, but I don’t care. I don’t like the sound of her voice and her style of singing/screaming (I know, I know, it’s her emotion and power coming out), and there’s only so much tedious industrial beats I can take. Nice to see Lopareva continuing Marina Anissina’s dye job. It makes me nostalgic.

Reed/Ambrulevicius: “this is my church, this is where I heal my hurt.” Oh lord… :lol: . One-foot sequence looked a bit weak compared to the last few teams. I’m digging the beat, hells yeah! Time for me to go confessing on the dance floor. I think I’m enjoying the music more than their skating. They’re not bad, but this seems okay. I get what they’re going for, but it’s not enough to match the music.

Canada, France, Lithuania… I miss late 90s-early 2000s ice dance.

Zingas/Kolesnik: I still remember him with Avonley Nguyen. Oooh, Prokofiev’s Romeo and Juliet. Johnny has a crush on him. Zingas has Tanith Belbin coloring, Madison Chock’s facial expressions, and Meryl Davis’ hair. He has a costume Scott Moir would wear. They really are an Igor team and in ice dance today he’s as refreshing as he was after the dirge years with shredded skirts and men with long hair before 2004. I get the praise, Kolesnik is amazing. I don’t get much of a connection between them though, so I don’t see Romeo and Juliet. They do look like they’re members of the same gang and are about to bash some Capulets’ heads. The beginning of an 8-year plan? I’ll check back in 8 years when fans complain about them and wish there was new blood.

Guignard/Fabbri: From the opening pose with the camera showing her from the torso, she looks like Nancy Kerrigan at the 1994 LP. Twizzle error. I’m always so impressed with their lifts… maybe it’s because of how close they are in height. The music was better before the singing started… much better. I don’t get that choreographic step, especially the “ta da” moves on their knees. Did Babs choreograph this? She never had much taste in programs. The audacity of them complaining about the scores all season when they had that FD, but I get the sentiment.

Fear/Gibson: her dress reminds me of when Charlotte York created a plaid dress for the MacDougal clan soirée. Of course, the Proclaimers. Good opening. Ooop… bad mistake on twizzle. “500 Miles” is fun and all, but it doesn’t really add to the spirit of this dance or their choreo or their faces. I guess lyrics don’t matter. “The Bonnie Banks of Loch Lomond”… this FD is probably the Scottish version of those Hollywood movies about how magical Ireland is that allezfred loves so much. All I can think about is how much better the Kerrs’ OD was. Tracy keeps saying how engaging teams are for the audience, but it’s hard to tell from the tv. Well, that was pastiche.

Gilles/Poirier: “Vincent” reboot. The costumes seem too costumey and on-the-nose for me. Great spin. I liked it the first time too. I’m sorry, it’s not fair to them, but this redux version is only showing how less musical these new ice dance elements make routines despite the fact that there are a ton of more “choreographic” elements on the TES list now. The twizzle part mostly ignored the variation on the guitar strumming section. Ok, this second half is good. I don’t like the side by side lying down on the choreo sequence. Oh man, that final pose. I’m feeling it. What a reaction! I’m so glad they medaled. They deserve it for all their years trying to move the sport to a different direction from the grain and refusing to conform. Original Vincent didn’t give them a world medal that it should have won, but new Vincent got them an Olympic medal. The world is funny sometimes.

Chock/Bates: oh, they skating for gold. That opening was serious. Those twizzles were done… nothing special about them though. The choreographic step in the beginning-to-middle part of the program rather than toward the end refreshing, but it’s kind of basic with “flamenco” flourishes with no flamenco. Madison’s face is doing all the work in this dance. Finally, a one-foot sequence that went with the music that wasn’t just melody, well at least the second half of it did. Do rotational lifts not travel anymore? I feel like every team’s rotational lifts could be confused for traveling stationary ones. You know, she doesn’t actually use the cape all that much. I know he can’t, but Evan really needed to bring the heat and temper to play a bull; he just doesn’t have it in him. The choreography in the steps seem kind of… like rehearsed and careful. This doesn’t feel like an organic dance, but it’s them following choreography as told. I need more emotion and heat between matador and bull. Oh man, the KnC is sad. It looks like they believed they did enough to win.

Ok, I think that costume and concept lost it for them, even if they almost won. It’s too pedestrian, it’s not Madison’s best look, and it doesn’t fit Evan at all. I feel like they’ve only had two good FDs in their long career: Snake Charmer and Daft Punk alien. I actually liked their Elvis one a lot too when they first went to I.AM.

Fournier-Beaudry/Cizeron: not a fan of this teal. That twizzle error was both exaggerated and underplayed by the fans in this thread. It was an obvious error and should be deducted but it wasn’t like a stumble that ruined the element totally. He’s lucky it happened at the end and he could do the planned choreography out of it. This theme works for them because if Papadakis/Cizeron were air, FB/Cizeron are water. I can’t wait to see who he picks to be earth and fire at the next two Olympics. The dance elements actually flow into one another. He’s still doing that tired curve lift as an actual leveled element? Ok, this choreo sequence actually works because it’s not stop, pose, start, pose, continue, stop, move on. I’ll admit one thing about Laurence… I think she makes better body shapes than Gabi. I still think Gabi had star power though.

Okay… FB/C deserved gold. I’m sorry.
 
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The skate that I found touched me the most and had the most insane lifts - Olivia and Tim.

But I'm pretty sure the entire dance athletes knew Whale would win. The placing that was amazing was Piper and Paul

I wonder what the IAM camp will look like, tonight/tomorrow. Who supports who.
 
All the hand-wringing aside...after contemplating it all, Piper and Paul embodied the Olympic spirit, hands down. Really happy for them, I mean really. They can retire if they want and know that they gave it all. And have the Olympic medal to prove it!
 
All the hand-wringing aside...after contemplating it all, Piper and Paul embodied the Olympic spirit, hands down. Really happy for them, I mean really. They can retire if they want and know that they gave it all. And have the Olympic medal to prove it!
I definitely want the 4th episode of Glitter and Gold.

What should it be called?
 

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