2025 ISU GPF Ice Dance Free Dance - Have No Fear Shawn’s Not Here

OMG at Laurence tripping in her dress and Madison almost falling backwards again like Worlds a few years ago. Piper's expressions during the FD make no sense to me at all. I enjoyed everyone's program except for the Canadians. :( All teams have room to grow.
 
Thrilled for Chock and Bates - they are so brilliant. I'm glad they won here and am sending amazing vibes for them to win Olympics too.

The French team do nothing for me - in spite of their technical strength I just can't get into it.

Fear/Gib have really won me over this season. I used to be really turned off by their camp/gay pop diva shtick but this program is such a refreshing change for them and is really a delight. I'm glad they won a medal and frankly think it should not have been as close as it was with the Canadians.

G/P - love them as people, athletes and artists but I feel like their programs just never quite land the way they're intended to. This program is so twee and maudlin and the taste level of their costumes is mind boggling. Their best program was probably Wuthering Heights.

R/A - find them so delightful and thrilled for all their success this season.

Z/K - super talented and will likely dominate in the years to come.
 
I feel like Piper's expression is very subdued lately. Did someone tell her not to make her O face? It feels like she is holding back. That together with her posture issues which seem to be worse this season aren't helping. They need to express to the max if they want to stand a chance against F/G's very energetic, upbeat, crowd friendly program.
I enjoy Piper and Paul`s program over Fear/Gibson. I don`t know much about dance but look like Canadians missed a few levels. Maybe they can be fixed in time.
 
Gabriella Papadakis was silent for Cizeron and Co. during the E! broadcast

Only called that they were skating to the Whale soundtrack, called the fall and how it will impact on the score

But nothing else, silent... Johnny was the one elaborating a bit more
 
Gabriella Papadakis was silent for Cizeron and Co. during the E! broadcast

Only called that they were skating to the Whale soundtrack, called the fall and how it will impact on the score

But nothing else, silent... Johnny was the one elaborating a bit more
Is there anyway to see the E! broadcast online through peacock?
 
I enjoy Piper and Paul`s program over Fear/Gibson. I don`t know much about dance but look like Canadians missed a few levels. Maybe they can be fixed in time.
G/P actually had better levels and a higher base score than F/G here and lost out on GOEs, while virtually tied on PCS. As much as I'm increasingly sold on F/G and think their FD is a great vehicle for them (I wish they returned to 500 miles later in the program though), I was a little stumped by this result today. Possibly, G/P are leaning into the "seamless, gentle, ethereal" nature of this program a little too much at the expense of hitting it as powerfully as they need to.

I am thrilled for another great performance from Z/K, just one darned L2 spin call from dancing around that 120 mark again. I've been all in on this couple from the start, they are such super performers and their technical growth is really impressive to me. I'm happy for them. Was the loss of dance levels due to missing the rotation numbers on one of the positions, does anyone know?

C/B's FD has gotten appreciably better every time out, as they tend to do and I expect that will continue on til the end of the season. It's not the music or style choice I would've wanted for the Olympic year, but they're making it work. They are, to me, the best overall performers out there, always so interesting, expressive, and dynamic. As a long, long-time C/B fan, this event in Milano is going to take years off my life.

I find FB/C style to be very navel-gaze-y and pretentious. As beautiful as their edging and body control, I just don't enjoy their overall vibe (never did with either of them in their prior partnerships, so sue me).
 
Well, I woke up this morning in a bad mood after watching the Free Dances. It is time for these teams who have been around forever to retire and let the younger, fresher teams have their turn. I did love Z/K performances but otherwise, it was a disappointing podium, for me, at least. I'm done with Senior Ice Dance until the (hopeful) expected retirements happen (looking at you C/B ... so overrated).
 
I feel like I should like Piper and Paul's program more than I do and I can't really put a finger on what it is that I'm not crazy about.

IMO the tone has completely shifted since the original iteration of this program, seasons ago. Their original "Vincent" embraced the tragedy. This version is, inexplicably, more romanticized. Speaking for myself, it just doesn't fit the music.

That being said, don't think Fear/Gibson's program is as effective as most. I'm glad they have added more transitional content but like the Irish jigs people try, this reel doesn't translate to the ice imo. 🤷‍♂️
 
IMO the tone has completely shifted since the original iteration of this program, seasons ago. Their original "Vincent" embraced the tragedy. This version is, inexplicably, more romanticized. Speaking for myself, it just doesn't fit the music.

That being said, don't think Fear/Gibson's program is as effective as most. I'm glad they have added more transitional content but like the Irish jigs people try, this reel doesn't translate to the ice imo. 🤷‍♂️

I also don't think the music cuts work together at all--Loch Lomond, then 500 Miles which is a banger and I unashamedly love that song, then to Auld Lang Syne. It's just weird and doesn't work for me. There are some good recordings of Loch Lomond that would have worked better.
 
E broadcast for

Laurence & Guillaume

Chock & Bates
LOL, I didn't watch the rest of the event with her commentary but that blunt there was a fall and that will be a -1 deduction 6 seconds after the fall was for some reason hilarious.
 
IMO the tone has completely shifted since the original iteration of this program, seasons ago. Their original "Vincent" embraced the tragedy. This version is, inexplicably, more romanticized. Speaking for myself, it just doesn't fit the music.
It absolutely doesn't. I just don't understand the reimagined version with Piper sometimes smiling when the lyrics are tragic.
I also don't think the music cuts work together at all--Loch Lomond, then 500 Miles which is a banger and I unashamedly love that song, then to Auld Lang Syne. It's just weird and doesn't work for me. There are some good recordings of Loch Lomond that would have worked better.
As someone who did highland dancing as a child, I 100% agree about the music cuts. The program almost hits but the music choices just don't live up to the program's promise.
 
I do love that we have a sport where people can compete into their 30s. I think it’s great. I do think it shows with some of them, including Piper and Paul.

Yes, somehow this year, I feel like we're really seeing it, both in pairs and ice dance. Certain teams that looked strong in the first 2 years of this quad are visibly looking more vulnerable in the second half of the quad.

I agree it's amazing to compete into your 30s, or even later, as long as health and stamina remain strong.

But there IS a point at which results are going to go into reverse (or should). I guess it's only human that, for many, it takes a while to understand that's where they're at.
 
Chock/Bates weren't going anywhere without serious injury or other life trauma after three World Championships in a row, and until Fournier Beaudry and Cizeron teamed up and came out in top form, they themselves were the only things between them and Olympic gold, especially after Gilles' cancer diagnosis. Chock/Bates (additionally), Guignard/Fabbri, and Gilles/Poirier would also be important to the hopes of Team Event medals in 2026 looking back at it as if we were in 2022, when teams were assessing their future, even if this might have been more aspirational for Canada. (And, back to 2025, moot, if Fournier Beaudry/Cizeron test the ice in the RD, and FRA overcomes the Pairs deficit to join JPN, USA, ITA, and GEO in the Finals.)

Given who might have been expected to be in for the quad based on 2022 and even 2023 results but aren't -- Messing (missed the Team Event in 2022, looked like he would skate until he was able to show his grandkids' sonograms in KnC), Kvitelashvili, Metelkina/Parkman, Safina/Berulava, Kazakova/Reviya, Fournier Beaudry/Sorensen -- and with Davis/Smokin switching from RUS to GEO after the Russa ban, it's become a different competitive landscape that could be predicted back then, especially if Fournier Beaudry/Cizeron playing spoiler in the TE RD, not something Lopareva/Brissaud would be, at least in this quad. (FB/C are supposedly undecided about the TE, but if they really don't want to skate, they'll agree to do the FD, and hope CAN is in the Final.) Whether Fear/Gibson were even in the RD mix for the TE was up-in-the-air back then, because it wasn't clear GBR would even earn three individual spots to form a team. Who knew if the ban on Russia and Belarus in ISU events would still be in effect for these Olympics, with so much :bribe: on the table.

It looks very different for GEO and ITA, with a GEO team of Gubanova, Egadze, Metelkina/Berulava, Davis/Smolkin, and for ITA, Gutmann establishing herself in place of a revolving door of Italian women, Conti/Macii never placing below 6th at a championship, Grassl excelling at GPF when his jumps weren't scrutinized, and Guignard/Fabbri. At this point, I think if Fournier/Beaudry skate the RD, that FRA will be in the Final and CAN will not, even with an FRA Pairs deficit in the SP, making the FD moot for Gilles/Poirier, but even if it's CAN in the Final without any chance for a medal, it should be Lajoie/Lagha in the FD, and I don't think, barring disaster, that the judges and tech panel will choose to suddenly give Lajoine/Lagha, or US #2 (if C/B don't have to skate for points in the FD), or Lopareva/Brissaud their due. (That would be in the individual event.)

In 2022, I thought Gilles/Poirier would be trying for full out Bourne/Kraatz: compete at the beginning of the next cycle when the reigning Olympic champions were out, and leave with a World Championship. (Once they stayed in, Gilles' cancer diagnosis could have gone either way, a time to reassess and bow out, or an Alexa Knierim Pairs Woman-like fierceness.) But then again, if Guignard/Fabbri had beaten Chock/Bates in 2023, they might have looked at the next three years and bowed out with a championship, hosting or not hosting the Olympics, or at least taking a couple of years off and then decide whether to try a comeback, based on the way the winds were blowing and how they were feeling. I'm not sure how much they thought about the Team Event, but I'm pretty certain they never expected they would be the only Italian team and wouldn't have the option to let ITA #2 take the FD, unless there was a medal on the line.
 

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