2025 4CC - Rhythm Dance: “I Got Seoul But I’m Not Sold Dear”

[miffy]

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Starting Order

​ ​ StN. Name Nation Warm-Up Group 1 1 Harlow Lynella STANLEY / Seiji URANO MEX 2 Zixi XIAO / Linghao HE CHN 3 Junfei REN / Jianing XING CHN 4 Azusa TANAKA / Shingo NISHIYAMA JPN Warm-Up Group 2 5 Gaukhar NAURYZOVA / Boyisangur DATIEV KAZ 6 Utana YOSHIDA / Masaya MORITA JPN 7 Hannah LIM / Ye QUAN KOR 8 Holly HARRIS / Jason CHAN AUS 9 Alicia FABBRI / Paul AYER CAN Warm-Up Group 3 10 Emilea ZINGAS / Vadym KOLESNIK USA 11 Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA 12 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA 13 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN 14 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN

 

[MacMadame]

Here is the BINGO link: https://mfbc.us/m/prfcyy6

I kept Heart Hands for the Free Space because I thought the Pink Ladies wouldn't be here. But apparently I was wrong and also I don't remember anyone giving Heart Hands.

Just joining? Mark off:

"artistic" camerawork
“Korean” hair bling
badly mangles skater’s name
brave/ real courage
Could be skating to anything
Cracker
Cutouts
Deep knee bend
dream start/ perfect start
emo/sad girl cover
HUUUUGE!/ A monster
Jarring music cut
Music from a Movie
nothing wrong with it/ nothing in it
Obvious warhorse
On the money
on the up and up
only one sleeve
Real quality
something to shout about
Superlatives
Superstar Artist
thrown down the gauntlet
ticking all the boxes
Tights over/boot covers

 

[MacMadame]

Here's the whole list:

Suggestion	Comments	Discipline
“Artistic” camerawork	Weird angles, loses skater, focus on 1 body part, fade-ins/outs	All
“Korean” hair bling	Doesn’t have to be a Korean skater but it has to be super-blingy; headbands count	All
armography	When the arms (and/or hair) are doing all the work	All
badly mangles skater’s name		All
battle royal		All
Big plushie/ cuddly toys	Combined to keep the list down	All
brave/ real courage		All
Bubble braid/ Man bun/ pony	Buns and pony tails on men, fancy braids on women	All
Came out with all guns blazing		All
Cat amongst the pigeons	Cats amongst anything	All
clean as a whistle		All
coach cam	When they show the coach miming or reacting to the performance	All
costume doesn’t match	Either each other or the music; slight color differences don’t count	All
could be skating to anything	From an FSUer	All
cracker / corker		All
cutouts	It has to look like a piece of the costume is missing - keyhole backs and bare midriffs don’t count	All
Deep knee bend		All
Didn’t give an inch		All
didn’t let anything go		All
didn’t put a foot wrong		All
dream/ perfect start		All
dropped like a stone		All
dying on ice		All
elegant pop		All but Dance
emo/ sad girl cover	It doesn’t have to literally be a girl singing to be a sad girl cover	All
face touching		All
fall on non-element		All
fist pump	after landing a jump or seeing scores	All
Frosty/ mad coach	In the KnC	All
got it all wrong		All
Gymnastics on ice	Cartwheels, roundoff, etc They have to be upside down at one point with no feet on the ice	All
Hang on to your hats	Or anything about hats really	All
Humdinger		All
HUUUUGE!/ A monster		All
illusion/ tights weird color	Like not matching skin tone or rest of the costume	All but usually not Mens
Inappropriate smiling	To sad, dreary, angry music; we know it when we see it	All
Invalid element		All
jarring music cuts		All
knee slide		All
lip-synching	To skater’s program	All
long look at it		Singles
magnificent/ perfect unison		Pairs & Dance
molest the judges	Getting in their space during the program; overrides touch the board	All but especially the FD
Music from Movie/TV	Umbrellas, Lion King, Matrix, Game of Thrones, etc. Has to be from the soundtrack.	All
music from Musical/Opera	POTO, Les Mis, etc. Has to be from the cast album	All
Neon/ highlighter	Any kind, any where	All
never better	Never seen them better also counts	All
nothing wrong with it/ nothing in it		All
nude gloves		All
Obvious warhorse	Not from Musical/Movie. Carmen, Nessa Dorum, Swan Lake, Muse, Take 5	All
off to a flyer/ the races		All
on the money		All
only one sleeve		All but usually not Mens
out of the top drawer		All
overcooked		All
packing it in/ to the gunnels		All
pristine clean		All
real quality		All
Red hot/ hot it up	Anything that’s hot	All
right from the off		All
shooting into the lead/ top		All
Shoutouts in KnC	Hi Mom! Showing photos, etc	All
something to shout about		All
Superlatives	Sensational, Superb, brilliant, etc	All
Superstar artist	Musical superstars only - MJ, ABBA, Louis Prima, etc	All
thrown down the gauntlet		All
ticking all the boxes		All
Tights over/boot covers	Sometimes it’s hard to tell which is it so they both count	All but usually not Mens
Tip top		All
touch the boards	Including punching them!	All
Tribute program	i.e., skating to Disturb’s SoS or Red Violin - as determined by FSU - overrides obvious warhorse	All
very literal costume		All
voiceovers	Can’t be part of the original music	All
whickety-whack	Stuff that is hanging off the costume and could be removed (i.e. not a skirt with shreds)	All
wind(ing) up		All but Dance

 

[Aceon6]

I’m propping my eyes open to see 4 programs that I haven’t seen 100 times. I hope RenXing can do justice to a 100% EWF program.

 

[Karen-W]

Peacock is live!

 

[MacMadame]

I just figured out why I had the times all wrong. For some reason, I thought 4CCs was in China this year. I must have mixed it up with the test event.

 

[MacMadame]

The announcer seems a little bit too excited. If you know what I mean.

 

[Karen-W]

I just figured out why I had the times all wrong. For some reason, I thought 4CCs was in China this year. I must have mixed it up with the test event.

Next season 4CCs is in Beijing.

 

[MacMadame]

Where is Seiji from? Her ISU bio doesn't say.

 

[Karen-W]

Where is Seiji from? Her ISU bio doesn't say.

I think he's American. He skated with two different American girls at Juvenile & Intermediate level.

Stats on Ice - Seiji Urano

Stats on Ice is a comprehensive online database of figure skating results, skater profiles, and statis- tical tools for analyzing trends and patterns. The database brings together over a thousand compe- titions from 2004 to 2015, with over twenty-five thousand skaters, and over three thousand...

www.statsonice.com

 

[MacMadame]

I think he's American. He skated with two different American girls at Juvenile & Intermediate level.

Stats on Ice - Seiji Urano

Stats on Ice is a comprehensive online database of figure skating results, skater profiles, and statis- tical tools for analyzing trends and patterns. The database brings together over a thousand compe- titions from 2004 to 2015, with over twenty-five thousand skaters, and over three thousand...

www.statsonice.com

Seijji, not him.

ETA oh, you meant her's not he's.

 

[Karen-W]

Seijji, not him.

ETA oh, you meant her's not he's.

Huh? The page says Seiji - seems like the same guy. Skated at some mid-Atlantic domestic club comps and she's from the DC area herself.

 

[MacMadame]

I'm confused because I think of Harlow as a boy's name.

 

[MacMadame]

Only Base on the Pattern Dance Step. TBh, I'm not impressed so far. I hope they are having fun, at least.

Ooh, armography.

 

[Jay42]

Hearing One Way Or Another just reminded me that I used to be really good at this song in Guitar Hero: World Tour.

They are lacking some dynamism that the song needs to really work in the program though. Could be something that comes with more time.

 

[Karen-W]

Well, that wasn't as bad as I recall from Stanley/Urano when I saw some grainy livestream of them at Mexican Nats last Nov, so... Good for them?

 

[Aceon6]

Imagine getting level 4 on your twizzles, the a B, then a 1, then no GOE on your choreo sequence, and finishing with a 4 lift. Welcome to Mexico.

 

[Karen-W]

I'm confused because I think of Harlow as a boy's name.

It makes me think her mom was a fan of Jean Harlow, a movie star from the '30s.

 

[MacMadame]

It's only 10pm here but I feel as dimwitted as if I have been up for 24 hours. SMH

 

[MacMadame]

I like these guys. They seem like they'd be fun at parties.

 

[Aceon6]

He must have grown since they made that shirt and vest.

 

[Karen-W]

Xiao/He - our first of many, many IAM teams tonight, lol. These costumes do not feel like they fit the music or the general RD theme of the season. CFSA didn't get their money's worth with this cookie cutter IAM packaging for them.

 

[Karen-W]

Ren/Xing - lol - she WAVED at the judges! Do we count that as 'molesting the judges'?!

 

[MacMadame]

I like this team too. That is my incredibly detailed technical analysis. And they are skating to Earth, Wing, and Fire. (Seriously, that's what their bio says.)

Ren/Xing - lol - she WAVED at the judges! Do we count that as 'molesting the judges'?!

Eh. Let's see what develops.

 

[Karen-W]

I like this team too. That is my incredibly detailed technical analysis. And they are skating to Earth, Wing, and Fire. (Seriously, that's what their bio says.)

I like them too, and that's a great typo!

They'd also be fun at a party, I bet.

 

[Aceon6]

Booooo. You don’t use an EWF cover when the original is already cleared.

 

[MacMadame]

I say we banish the "Mexicans" and keep the rest of this group. They are all fun and cheering me up with their perk.

Wait.. Did she fall down? Or was that part of the choreography?

 

[Karen-W]

TaNishi - they are sloooooow. But, I bet they'll be fine, score wise, since they ARE an IAM team. Or, maybe not since she just had a random fall and the tech panel hammered them with a base level on the pattern dance.

 

[MacMadame]

TaNishi - they are sloooooow. But, I bet they'll be fine, score wise, since they ARE an IAM team. Or, maybe not since she just had a random fall and the tech panel hammered them with a base level on the pattern dance.

fall on non-element!

 

[Karen-W]

I say we banish the "Mexicans" and keep the rest of this group. They are all fun and cheering me up with their perk.

Wait.. Did she fall down? Or was that part of the choreography?

Nah, we don't deport Mexicans from 4CCs. They're a rare breed and had to earn their way here.

And, yes, it was a fall.