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Bringing over this helpful info from the Pairs SP PBP thread in Kiss & Cry (thank you @Aussie Willy):Looking at the GOE given by the judges it could have been worse - ranged from -3 to -5. Errors in the short program are generally judged more harshly.
Because Deanna fell, and it was deemed to have happened on an element, I would have thought that was mandatory -5, but apparently not. Is that new?
A fall doesn't necessarily mean an automatic -5. You start with the GOE you would have given the element if completed successfully then apply the reduction. A fall means you cannot be positive GOE but you don't have to be -5. So a judge could have been giving a +3 if completed without error, then apply the reduction which can take it back to -2.
It is in this communication - page 11.
https://isu-d8g8b4b7ece7aphs.a03.az...ls-and-GOE-Season-2025-26-1745584466-4032.pdf

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James & Radford ended up winning a World bronze that year. I wouldn't say the fed regrets anything about how that worked out.Trennt doing so well just makes me annoyed he didn't get to go to Beijing. And for what? For a pair with absolutely no future and no medal prospects unless everyone else ate the ice like James/Radford?
Nurture young talent or let an old team with no future fumble their way to a bronze in a depleted Worlds field?James & Radford ended up winning a World bronze that year. I wouldn't say the fed regrets anything about how that worked out.
Walsh/Michaud ended after that season, so I'm not sure "no future" is a valid critique of favouring James/Radford over them. As it turned out, neither of those teams had a future, but one of them got a World bronze.Nurture young talent or let an old team with no future fumble their way to a bronze in a depleted Worlds field?
They should have regrets
Who knows if they would have ended if they had gone to the Olympics and skated well? I think the disappointment of not making the team had a big role to play in Evelyn's decision to retire. It wasn't just about her going to uni, because IIRC, they were planning to compete and even had GP events scheduled before she made the decision in the late summer. I also remember her saying that she was retiring sooner than she thought she would or would've liked to. I know they obviously had some big limitations due to the lack of height difference, but they had been doing fairly well despite that, being sixth at Worlds that season and twelfth at Worlds with full attendance the year before. Trennt and Lia have never placed higher than sixth at Worlds, in an arguably weaker quad.Walsh/Michaud ended after that season, so I'm not sure "no future" is a valid critique of favouring James/Radford over them. As it turned out, neither of those teams had a future, but one of them got a World bronze.
am I the only one who remembers how unwatchable Walsh & Michaud were? The decision to send the better pair was valid then. Trennt has a more dynamic partnership now, with higher ceiling. Even if he had gone to the Olympics 4 years ago, Lia had not, so experience would only be so helpful.Walsh and Michaud's lifts scared me so much that I couldn't watch them. And thanks to James and Radford's bronze medal at 2022 worlds, Canada got to send 3 teams to 2023 worlds.am I the only one who remembers how unwatchable Walsh & Michaud were? The decision to send the better pair was valid then. Trennt has a more dynamic partnership now, was higher ceiling. Even if he had gone to the Olympics 4 years ago, Lia had not, so experience would only be so helpful.
It was also thanks to W/M finishing sixth since it's the total of placements.Walsh and Michaud's lifts scared me so much that I couldn't watch them. And thanks to James and Radford's bronze medal at 2022 worlds, Canada got to send 3 teams to 2023 worlds.
2nd best of the teams that finished the competition, sure, but 3rd best of the teams that finished the SP, IMO. I do recall thinking at the time, before Cain/LeDuc had to withdraw, that Vanessa & Eric should have beat Miura/Kihara.I will also add that Vanessa and Eric were arguably the second best that competition. I always remember when I can wuzrob Canadian skaters. I am not suggesting it was an injustice like Czechia’s 3rd goal, but Vanessa and Eric were wuzrob-worthy, in my view.
Who is GM?I hope Canada can qualify 3 pairs teams but hmm..........
Glad to see GM are going in dance. That will make it more likely we can qualify 3 dance teams.
SG has a shot to get in top ten to Q 2 men but MS in women..............not likely a top ten finish there.
I suspect it was supposed to be G/PWho is GM?

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Yes, I meant GP...........sorry!
Meeting expectations at major competitions has not been one of K/E's strengths to date, so good to see they're aware of the issue and looking for ways to improve.“Over the years, pressure and expectations have risen (along with our goals), but one of our goals going into this junior worlds is to bring more of that 2023 junior worlds Ava and Yoni back in a way,” Kemp continued. “We want to enjoy the experience, skate freely, and the results will land where they land.”
Their coach Kevin Dawe said seeing how successful that mindset can be was the big takeaway from the Winter Games. The Olympians who skated well in Milan focused on performance and not outcome.
Women’s gold medallist Alysa Liu is the epitome of that approach.
“That’s something (Kemp and Elizarov) continue to work on and apply to their own competitions,” Dawe noted.
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The Winnipeggers are Canadian team alternates for the senior world championships in Prague the last week of March, so they have to keep training in case either of the two pairs currently slated to compete are unable to do so.
Kemp and Elizarov tested the senior competition waters earlier this season.
“We’re pretty happy with how (our three senior events) went and we want to be up there with those other senior teams,” Elizarov said.
“We’re happy to move on to senior.”
How challenging will it be to put the Olympics behind you and refocus for the upcoming world championships in Prague in late March?We always knew if Team Canada made the free program in the team event that we would have skated the pairs free. So to hear so close to our departure that we would also be participating in the short program was surprising, yet we were ready for it. We knew we were trained, we felt ready, we just had to talk with our team when managing energy levels and maintain mind and body health so we could still be ready for the individual event.
I think it will be interesting. Every athlete who has done this talks about how hard it is, but for us I think it’s exciting. To finally be putting up scores we have been working towards and to be placed as high as third in the short program was very motivating and confirming that we are on the right path to success. So with a little more time and preparation I believe we can perform well once again for the final time of this season.
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