2023 World Team Trophy Day 3

[skatingguy]

Team Standing

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Rank	Team	Nation	Men	Men	Women	Women	Pairs	Pairs	Ice Dance	Ice Dance	Total Points
			SP	FS	SP	FS	SP	FS	RD	FD
1	Team United States of America	USA	12		10	9	12		12	12	90
			9		7	7
2	Team Republic of Korea	KOR	11		12	12	7		7	7	75
			3		6	10
3	Team Japan	JPN	6		11	11	11		9	8	74
			2		8	8
4	Team France	FRA	10		5	6	8		8	9	60
			8		3	3
5	Team Italy	ITA	7		4	5	9		11	11	55
			5		1	2
6	Team Canada	CAN	4		9	4	10		10	10	51
			1		2	1

15 Apr 2023	15:15:00	Pairs	Free Skating
	16:50:00	Men	Free Skating

ISU Results

ISU World Team Trophy in Figure Skating 2023

ISU YouTube Channel
Pairs Free Skate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCAW4Jv7sW8
Men Free Skate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1M4HrdcGfs

 

[skatingguy]

Pairs - Free Skating Starting Order​

StN.	Name	Nation
Warm-up Group 1
1	Hyejin CHO Steven ADCOCK	KOR
2	Camille KOVALEV Pavel KOVALEV	FRA
3	Sara CONTI Niccolo MACII	ITA
Warm-up Group 2
4	Deanna STELLATO-DUDEK Maxime DESCHAMPS	CAN
5	Riku MIURA Ryuichi KIHARA	JPN
6	Alexa KNIERIM Brandon FRAZIER	USA

 

[skatingguy]

Pairs - Free Skating

Panel of Officials​

Function	Name	Nation
Referee​	Mr. Fabio BIANCHETTI​	ISU
Judge No.1	Ms. Florence VUYLSTEKER	FRA
Judge No.2	Ms. Jodi ABBOTT	CAN
Judge No.3	Mr. Massimo ORLANDINI	ITA
Judge No.4	Ms. Ayumi ONO	JPN
Judge No.5	Mr. Christian BAUMANN	GER
Judge No.6	Ms. Leah BATES	AUS
Judge No.7	Ms. Kristina LUNDGREN	USA
Judge No.8	Ms. Jung Sue LEE	KOR
Judge No.9	Ms. Francoise de RAPPARD	BEL
Technical Controller	Ms. Anna SIEROCKA​	ISU
Technical Specialist	Ms. Marie ARAI​	ISU
Technical Specialist	Ms. Elizabeth CAIN​	ISU
Data Operator	Ms. Emiko KITAJI	ISU
Replay Operator	Ms. Julia DEGENHARDT	ISU

 

[skatfan]

Joining for the pairs free. I’m leaving in a drive to SoCal tomorrow morning.

 

[Karen-W]

Here and ready for Day 3! Anyone else really want to know who the peeps behind the judges wearing the animal masks are?

 

[Hedwig]

FInally one day where I can watch live Rest I watched yesterday on replay.

 

[Sylvia]

Are the costumed ones the announcing/music people?

 

[Hedwig]

I was very impressed with the Korean pair team - but they are not actually from Korea, yes? I saw she was born in Canada (and he obviously is not Korean) so still no Korean pair training in the country or are there centers popping up?

 

[skatfan]

I was very impressed with the Korean pair team - but they are not actually from Korea, yes? I saw she was born in Canada (and he obviously is not Korean) so still no Korean pair training in the country or are there centers popping up?

I would imagine there are no Korean coaches for pairs.

 

[Karen-W]

I was very impressed with the Korean pair team - but they are not actually from Korea, yes? I saw she was born in Canada (and he obviously is not Korean) so still no Korean pair training in the country or are there centers popping up?

Correct, but it's not as though Lim/Quan are any different in ice dance.

 

[Sylvia]

I was very impressed with the Korean pair team - but they are not actually from Korea, yes?

Yes. They train with McIntosh/Mimar & she competed at Canadian Nationals in Novice several years ago - just started pairs this season, IIRC. Adcock’s a veteran pair guy from GBR originally who has competed at CAN Nationals several times with previous partners.

 

[Hedwig]

pity, I hope they start building up pair and ice-dance centers in more countries!

 

[Sylvia]

Jan. 6, 2023 in the Pairs general discussion thread:

Random fact: when Steven Adcock and his first pairs partner, Amber Ferguson, won the silver medal in advanced novice at the British Championships in 2010, the guy in the team which beat them was Lewis Gibson.

 

[Karen-W]

ChoAd - really nice 3tw to open! SBS 3s+1e+2s - nice! And she's down on the SBS 3T. Well, at least they got those 2Ss in so they're part of the international club! She's really sound on the 3s with a beautiful throw again today. Eeek - lift fail, but she came down safely and that's good. Throw 2z - meh... Much better on this last lift. Duhamel's right, ending on a pairs combo spin is almost never a god idea. Well, overall, not too shabby. Work to be done still, for sure, but credible.

 

[skatfan]

Will their tech meet minimums for Worlds?

 

[Hedwig]

that was more than good from such a new team! Of course some issues like the aborted lift but what I liked especially is the unison in the steps and how well matched the steps already are!

and great to see all skaters from all countries happy clapping for them in the background.

 

[Bunny Hop]

Love some Rachmaninov to start us off - thanks Korean Pair team! As I complain about music so often, it's nice to put in a favourable post once in a while!

That first throw was a cracker!

Oh, second one not so good, What a shame.

First lift was not good, but at least they're not scary.

 

[skatingguy]

Hyejin Cho/Steven Adcock, Republic of Korea
Piano Concerto No. 2, C Minor by Rachmaninoff

3 Twist Lift 3
3S+1e+2S
3T< - she under rotated & fell
5 Axel Lasso Lift 4
Throw 3S
Forward Inside Death Sp 4
5 Rev Lasso Lift B - came down early
Th 2Lz - step out
Group 3 Lift 4
Choreo Sequence
Pair Combo Spin 4

This is bit more what I was expecting to see from such a new pairs team with so little competition experience. Still, some really good elements, and solid technique.

102.27 = 1st Place

 

[Karen-W]

Will their tech meet minimums for Worlds?

Should, easily, since the Worlds TES min for the FS this season was 46.

 

[skatfan]

Unless the French implode that will be 6th place.

 

[Sylvia]

South Korean Nationals Pairs history from wiki:
2016 Seoul Ji Min-ji / Themistocles Leftheris No other competitors
2017 Gangneung Ji Min-ji / Themistocles Leftheris Kim Su-yeon / Kim Hyung-tae Kim Kyu-eun / Alex Kang-chan Kam
2018 Seoul Kim Kyu-eun / Alex Kang-chan Kam No other competitors
2019–2022: No pairs competition held at senior level
2023 Uijeongbu Cho Hye Jin / Steven Adcock No other competitors

 

[Bunny Hop]

Jan. 6, 2023 in the Pairs general discussion thread:

Thus answering my long standing question as to where the hell Britain was hiding Gibson prior to coming to seinor ice dance.

 

[Sylvia]

Cho/Adcock scored 104 in their FS at Nationals in January - hope to see more of them next season!

 

[skatingguy]

pity, I hope they start building up pair and ice-dance centers in more countries!

I agree, but remember how difficult this is. First a country probably needs to have a high level skater(s) who then want to create a school & make skating their life. Both dance & pairs have traditionally required multiple coaches because of the number, and variety of elements. Also, with pairs there is a risk element that has to be carefully managed. Best bet would be to have one or regional centres in Asia (probably Japan) that other athletes could go to train similar to central Europe.

 

[Karen-W]

ChoAd's combined SP+FS score = 162.82 - and that will put them 25th on the Pairs SB list. No guaranteed GP invitation, but very high on the alternates list!

 

[Karen-W]

I agree, but remember how difficult this is. First a country probably needs to have a high level skater(s) who then want to create a school & make skating their life. Both dance & pairs have traditionally required multiple coaches because of the number, and variety of elements. Also, with pairs there is a risk element that has to be carefully managed. Best bet would be to have one or regional centres in Asia (probably Japan) that other athletes could go to train similar to central Europe.

Additionally, you need to have depth in the men's program to support pairs and ice dance. Japan is really the only country in Asia that has the sort of depth to realistically support solid pairs and dance programs.

BTW - I couldn't be bothered to pay much attention to Les Kovs. They bore me.

 

[skatfan]

ChoAd's combined SP+FS score = 162.82 - and that will put them 25th on the Pairs SB list. No guaranteed GP invitation, but very high on the alternates list!

They can at least go to a couple of Challenger events.

 

[Bunny Hop]

BTW - I couldn't be bothered to pay much attention to Les Kovs. They bore me.

I confess my attention also wandered and I started reading the end of yesterday's PBP thread. What I saw seemed fine though.

 

[skatingguy]

Camille Kovalev/Pavel Kovalev, France
Caruso by Florent Pagny

3 Twist Lift 1 - catch on the shoulder
3T - his landing was tight
2S+2T
5 Axel Lasso Lift 4
Back Out Death Sp 3
Pair Combo Spin 4
Throw 3F
5 Rev Lasso Lift 4
Choreo Sequence
Throw 3S - hand down
3 Lift 3

Typical free skate for les Kovalevs this season - better than previous years but messy.

114.78 = 1st Place (111.22 at Worlds)

 

[Sylvia]

I hope Cho/Adcock can get some funding from KSF - since they only competed at Nationals, I'm not sure they qualify yet?