2023-24 ISU Junior Grand Prix

[Karen-W]

We didn't have any spots in Armenia

Yes, Ukraine did - https://isu.org/docman-documents-li...es-55/31230-general-announcement-2023-24/file

At least, in the original announcement Ukraine's 6 spots in ice dance were Bangkok, Linz, Osaka, Budapest, Gdansk and Yerevan. The fed must have asked the ISU to swap their 6th spot in Yerevan with Istanbul.

 

[airgelaal]

Yes, Ukraine did - https://isu.org/docman-documents-li...es-55/31230-general-announcement-2023-24/file

At least, in the original announcement Ukraine's 6 spots in ice dance were Bangkok, Linz, Osaka, Budapest, Gdansk and Yerevan. The fed must have asked the ISU to swap their 6th spot in Yerevan with Istanbul.

It's strange that they didn't ask to swap Thailand or Japan

 

[Karen-W]

It's strange that they didn't ask to swap Thailand or Japan

My guess is geo-political considerations given Armenia's close ties to Russia. They were supposed to have a man and a woman in Yerevan and none in Turkey, yet they wound up with both a man and a woman in Turkey and none in Armenia.

 

[airgelaal]

My guess is geo-political considerations given Armenia's close ties to Russia. They were supposed to have a man and a woman in Yerevan and none in Turkey, yet they wound up with both a man and a woman in Turkey and none in Armenia.

I think they were allowed to swap Europe with Europe, and it’s easier to get to Turkey than to Yerevan

 

[Karen-W]

Sherry Zhang and Daniel Martynov have been confirmed on the USFS Int'l Assignments page as being assigned to JGP Yerevan, filling the TBD/placeholder spots.

2023-24 International Assignments and Results - U.S. Figure Skating Fan Zone (usfigureskatingfanzone.com)

 

[airgelaal]

Oh dear. I thought it was a new pair. And then I remembered, there will be no pairs in Yerevan

 

[Karen-W]

JGP Yerevan entries were finally updated today.

Notably - Zich ITA and Tauchi JPN are both out of the Men's competition. This is easily the easiest men's field with Nakamura and Martynov the strongest contenders for gold. While this is men, so anything is possible and likely, I'd be really surprised if anyone else wins gold.

 

[Karen-W]

JGPF Pairs qualifiers -
Anastasiia Metelkina/Luka Berulava GEO - 15+15 = 30
Martina Ariano Kent/Charly Laliberte Laurent CAN - 15+11 = 26
Violetta Sierova/Ivan Khobta UKR - 13+13 = 26
Olivia Flores/Luke Wang USA - 13+13 = 26
Ava Kemp/Yohnatan Elizarov CAN - 9+15 = 24
Jazmine Desrochers/Kieran Thrasher CAN - 11+11 = 22

Alt1 - Louise Ehrhard/Matthis Pellegris FRA - 9+7 = 16
Alt2 - Wenning Shi/Zhiyu Wang CHN - 11+4 = 15
Alt3 - Yixi Yang/Shunyang Deng CHN - 4+9 = 13

 

[Frau Muller]

Unofficial JGPF Pairs qualifiers -
Metelkina/Parkman GEO - 15+15 = 30
Ariano Kent/Laliberte Laurent CAN - 15+11 = 26
Sierova/Khobta UKR - 13+13 = 26
Flores/Wang USA - 13+13 = 26
Kemp/Elizarov CAN - 9+15 = 24
Desrochers/Thrasher CAN - 11+11 = 22

Alt1 - Ehrhard/Pellegris FRA - 9+7 = 16
Alt2 - Shi/Wang CHN - 11+4 = 15
Alt3 - Yang/Deng CHN - 4+9 = 13

Berulava is the Georgian-Russian, I think.

Canada did well!

 

[Karen-W]

Berulava is the Georgian-Russian, I think.

Canada did well!

Yeah, I fixed that. My brain hasn't quite stopped thinking Metelkina/Parkman yet, lol.

 

[Sylvia]

Pairs Qualified for the Final - will be confirmed here: https://results.isu.org/events/jgp2023/jgpspairs.htm

1 Anastasiia METELKINA / Luka BERULAVA GEO 15 (181.37) + 15 (190.45) = 30 (371.82)
2 Martina ARIANO KENT / Charly LALIBERTE LAURENT CAN 15 (158.28) + 11 (153.59) = 26 (311.87)
3 Violetta SIEROVA / Ivan KHOBTA UKR 13 + 13 = 26 (153.77 + 151.53 = 305.30)
4 Olivia FLORES / Luke WANG USA 13 (147.22) + 13 (154.52) = 26 (301.74)
5 Ava KEMP / Yohnatan ELIZAROV CAN 9 + 15 = 24 (132.93 + 159.91 = 292.84)
6 Jazmine DESROCHERS / Kieran THRASHER CAN 11 + 11 = 22 (146.34 + 136.95 = 283.29)

 

[Sylvia]

JGP Women's standings after 6 with Armenia left: https://results.isu.org/events/jgp2023/jgpswomen.htm

1 Jia SHIN KOR 15 15 30 (402.07)
2 Ami NAKAI JPN 15 15 30 (385.30)
3 Rena UEZONO JPN 13 15 28 (380.02)
4 Yuseong KIM KOR 13 13 26 (366.90)
5 Minsol KWON KOR 11 13 24 (349.45)
6 Yo TAKAGI JPN 9 13 22 (359.76)
7 Seojin YOUN KOR 7 11 18 (352.08)
8 Ayumi SHIBAYAMA JPN 5 11 16 (333.98)

Yerevan:
Mao SHIMADA JPN 15 (213.86)
Elyce LIN-GRACEY USA 9 (179.16)
Ikura KUSHIDA JPN 9 (176.09)
Sherry ZHANG USA 7 (170.65)
Sophia SHIFRIN ISR 5 (163.18)
Sofja STEPCENKO LAT 5 (157.41)
Inga GURGENIDZE GEO 2 (159.85)

ETA - 1st assignment, as pointed out by @tony below, for:
Nayeon KO KOR
Eunbi PARK KOR

 

[airgelaal]

It seems only Mao has a chance.

 

[Karen-W]

It seems only Mao has a chance.

The only way Mao doesn't make the JGPF and either Elyce or Ikura does is if Mao doesn't show up to skate.

 

[tony]

Yujae Kim could qualify relatively easily with a silver and knock teammate Kwon out, but she’s only listed as a substitute while two other skaters get their first event

 

[Karen-W]

Yujae Kim could qualify relatively easily with a silver and knock teammate Kwon out, but she’s only listed as a substitute while two other skaters get their first event

That's the Korean fed we know and love - sticking with their JGP test comp results, no matter what!

 

[Sylvia]

@EdgyIceMarks compiled scores from South Korea's JGP Selection Competition, July 22-23, in the competition thread in Kiss & Cry:

2 JGPs:
1. Jia SHIN (SP) 69.32 + (FS) 139.48 = (Total) 208.80
2. Minsol KWON (SP) 67.08 + (FS) 127.94 = (Total) 195.02
3. Seojin YOUN (SP) 62.80 + (FS) 125.94 = (Total) 188.74
4. Yuseong KIM (SP) 62.45 + (FS) 122.40 = (Total) 184.85
5. Heesue HAN (SP) 58.33 + (FS) 126.01 = (Total) 184.34

1 JGP:
6. Yujae KIM (SP) 58.74 + (FS) 117.94 = (Total) 176.68
7. Jeongyoul HWANG (SP) 54.19 + (FS) 109.89 = (Total) 164.08
8. Eunbi PARK (SP) 55.80 + (FS) 99.69 = (Total) 155.49 - JGP #7
9. Nayeon KO (SP) 53.66 + (FS) 101.26 = (Total) 154.92 - JGP #7

 

[Colonel Green]

Yujae Kim could qualify relatively easily with a silver and knock teammate Kwon out, but she’s only listed as a substitute while two other skaters get their first event

Well, there’s some chance she’ll be going to the final anyway to watch her twin.

 

[Karen-W]

Well, there’s some chance she’ll be going to the final anyway to watch her twin.

LOL - knowing the KSF, they'll have some sort of random internal competition that all of their skaters who aren't at the GPF/JGPF must compete at the same weekend.

 

[her grace]

LOL - knowing the KSF, they'll have some sort of random internal competition that all of their skaters who aren't at the GPF/JGPF must compete at the same weekend.

Ha, ha. More likely, they'll have it the week before the JGP Final so they can ensure their athletes have to peak early and wear them out before the event.

 

[her grace]

JGP standings

5 Minsol KWON KOR 11 13 24 (349.45)
6 Yo TAKAGI JPN 9 13 22 (359.76)

Sad for Takagi to have the higher overall score and not make it (most likely), but them's the breaks.

 

[Sylvia]

Men's standings with Yerevan left: https://results.isu.org/events/jgp2023/jgpsmen.htm

1 Rio NAKATA JPN 15 13 28 (440.00)
2 Juheon LIM KOR 13 15 30 28 (217.95 + 221.55 today = 439.50)
3 Francois PITOT FRA 13 15 28 (437.36)
4 Hyungyeom KIM KOR 13 15 28 (433.91)
5 Adam HAGARA SVK 15 9 24 (420.43)
6 Beck STROMMER USA 11 13 24 (210.92 + 200.22 today =411.14)

Yerevan has:
Martynov 11
Kulish 7 (competing at CS Nepela this week)
Nakamura 3 (could play big spoiler)

ETA: USA's Daniel Martynov will qualify for the Final IF he wins gold in Yerevan... or, if 2nd, would need to score 203.16 (hope my math is correct) to win the 13+11 tiebreaker against Strommer.

 

[Karen-W]

Men's standings with Yerevan left: https://results.isu.org/events/jgp2023/jgpsmen.htm

1 Rio NAKATA JPN 15 13 28 (440.00)
2 Juheon LIM KOR 13 15 30 (217.95 + 221.55 today = 439.50)
3 Francois PITOT FRA 13 15 28 (437.36)
4 Hyungyeom KIM KOR 13 15 28 (433.91)
5 Adam HAGARA SVK 15 9 24 (420.43)
6 Beck STROMMER USA 11 13 24 (210.92 + 200.22 today =411.14)

Yerevan has:
Martynov 11
Kulish 7
Nakamura 3 (could play big spoiler)

Martynov needs to win, if he finishes 2nd then it will be down to the 1st tiebreaker with Strommer for the final spot.

Yerevan also has:
Kuperman 4
D Li 3
Melnikov 0

Those three, along with Kulish, are all in the 174-180 point range. And then, Law and Fegan are making their JGP debuts but both have the capability of scoring in that range.

 

[EdgyIceMarks]

Ha, ha. More likely, they'll have it the week before the JGP Final so they can ensure their athletes have to peak early and wear them out before the event.

Funny how you say that...

2023 Korean Figure Skating President's Cup Ranking Competition
November 30 - December 3

https://skating.or.kr/피겨/?vid=310

ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Finals 2023/24
ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Finals 2023/24
December 7-10

https://isu.org/figure-skating/even...prix-of-figure-skating-final?templateParam=11

 

[On My Own]

Ha, ha. More likely, they'll have it the week before the JGP Final so they can ensure their athletes have to peak early and wear them out before the event.

I mean they don't have to peak early. How many people exactly are going to beat Shin Jia even if she does 3Lo as her most difficult jump?

 

[her grace]

Funny how you say that...

2023 Korean Figure Skating President's Cup Ranking Competition
November 30 - December 3

https://skating.or.kr/피겨/?vid=310

ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Finals 2023/24
ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Finals 2023/24
December 7-10

https://isu.org/figure-skating/even...prix-of-figure-skating-final?templateParam=11

I only said it because they did it last season, too.

I wonder what Korean skaters could accomplish if their fed wasn't constantly sabotaging them.

 

[Karen-W]

Grimm/Savitskiy GER 15+15 = 30 and Pinchuk/Pogorielov UKR 15+13 = 28 join Neset/Markelov USA 15+15 = 30 in qualifying for the JGPF, and the results today in Poland also assure Pedersen/Chen USA 13+13 = 26 a spot in the JGPF.

Next week we have Tkachenko/Kiliakov ISR 13 and Peal/Peal USA 11 as the only contenders left for the JGPF. Fradji/Forneau FRA 13+11 = 24 will be carefully watching the results of Yerevan.

TkaKil are in if they finish 1st or 2nd. Bronze might also be enough if the Peals finish 2nd and some other, unknown team wins. Bronze with a Peals win would put it to the 1st tiebreaker with FradForn (combined total scores).

Peals are in if they finish 1st. Silver would put it to the 1st tiebreaker with FradForn (combined total scores). Anything lower and they're 1st alternates.

 

[On My Own]

2 Juheon LIM KOR 13 15 30 (217.95 + 221.55 today = 439.50)

13 + 15 = 28 btw

 

[On My Own]

Nakamura 3 (could play big spoiler)

how? The highest he can get is 15 points, so with a total of 18, he's not on the qualifier list at all (unless you mean subs I guess).

 

[Karen-W]

how? The highest he can get is 15 points, so with a total of 18, he's not on the qualifier list at all (unless you mean subs I guess).

If Nakamura wins then that would mean Martynov doesn't and it would come down to the tiebreaker with Strommer for the last spot, whereas a straight out win for Martynov gets him in ahead of Strommer.