Current and expected qualification to the GPF

Hedwig

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These are the current standings with one GP to go:

Dance sounds like a done deal with S/K competing next week and likely to win. Then G/F are likely to make it.

1Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERONFRA1515301441.312264.78132.61176.5320
2Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUEUSA1513281417.442249.07125.96168.3719
3Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIERCAN1513281414.132247.13125.32167.0020
4Madison CHOCK / Evan BATESUSA1313262419.012250.44125.68168.5718
5Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKINRUS1111223402.472241.11120.71161.3620
6Olivia SMART / Adrian DIAZESP911203382.622231.59115.96151.0319
7Caroline GREEN / Michael PARSONSUSA97164364.772216.77114.11148.0020
8Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOVRUS15X151215.441129.11129.1186.339
9Evgeniia LOPAREVA / Geoffrey BRISSAUDFRA59144350.572214.03107.32136.5420
10Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRIITA13X132200.051121.23121.2378.8210
11Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHACAN57125366.452220.13112.93146.3219
12Annabelle MOROZOV / Andrei BAGINRUS75125347.642210.40106.53137.2419
13Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSONGBR011113369.992221.67115.48148.3219
14Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SORENSENCAN11X113190.131114.80114.8075.339
15Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVINESP9X94188.091111.69111.6976.409
16Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIUCHN994184.591111.31111.3173.2810
 

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1Anna SHCHERBAKOVARUS1515301466.472316.80165.05149.6723
2Kaori SAKAMOTOJPN915241439.272291.55146.78147.7221
3Alena KOSTORNAIARUS1113242436.392284.37145.41152.0223
4Young YOUKOR1111223420.572281.76146.24138.8121
5Mai MIHARAJPN99184424.962286.61144.49138.3524
6Wakaba HIGUCHIJPN511163410.182276.90141.04133.2823
7Alysa LIUUSA79164409.432268.08135.18141.3521
8Kseniia SINITSYNARUS79164404.522263.12134.25141.4023
9Kamila VALIEVARUS15X151265.081180.89180.8984.1912
10Alexandra TRUSOVARUS15151232.371154.68154.6877.6912
11Mana KAWABEJPN013132391.962264.78133.22127.1821
12Elizaveta TUKTAMYSHEVARUS13X132232.881151.64151.6481.2412
13Maiia KHROMYKHRUS13X132226.351154.31154.3172.0412
14Daria USACHEVARUS13W132217.311140.60140.6076.7112
15Loena HENDRICKXBEL11X113219.051145.53145.5373.5212
16Satoko MIYAHARAJPN47115410.082272.87138.72137.2124
In Ladies we seem to have the three Russians Valieva, Tuktamyshevy and Khromykh with still a chance of the final. Loena Hendricks still has a mathematical chance as well.
Anyone else that I overlook?
 

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1Yuma KAGIYAMAJPN1515301564.432383.26197.49181.1723
2Shoma UNOJPN1315281560.832369.18187.57191.6521
3Vincent ZHOUUSA1513281556.252359.31198.13196.9421
4Nathan CHENUSA1115261576.552386.94200.46189.6122
5Jason BROWNUSA1311242523.752340.36174.81183.3924
6Shun SATOJPN913222512.042343.70177.17168.3422
7Junhwan CHAKOR711183507.342315.86163.68191.4822
8Deniss VASILJEVSLAT99184502.922328.07164.72174.8523
9Makar IGNATOVRUS99184501.372321.04166.66180.3323
10Daniel GRASSLITA411153490.432323.88173.33166.5521
11Mikhail KOLYADARUS13X132273.551181.25181.2592.3011
12Keegan MESSINGCAN75125491.402313.09168.03178.3124
13Evgeni SEMENENKORUS11X113256.011168.30168.3087.7112


Kolyada and Semenenko could still mix things up.
 

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1Wenjing SUI / Cong HANCHN1515301448.602289.59145.11159.0115
2Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOVRUS1513281435.772279.63142.14156.1415
3Aleksandra BOIKOVA / Dmitrii KOZLOVSKIIRUS1115261422.492269.89139.79152.6016
4Riku MIURA / Ryuichi KIHARAJPN1311242417.622271.01135.57146.6115
5Iuliia ARTEMEVA / Mikhail NAZARYCHEVRUS1113242392.162257.24132.13134.9215
6Alexa KNIERIM / Brandon FRAZIERUSA911203404.662268.14136.60136.5216
7Ashley CAIN-GRIBBLE / Timothy LEDUCUSA119203392.692260.26132.04132.4315
8Vanessa JAMES / Eric RADFORDCAN99184384.262247.40124.50136.8616
9Anastasia MISHINA / Aleksandr GALLIAMOVRUS15X151227.281148.88148.8878.407
10Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINIITA77145341.642216.15111.59125.4915
11Cheng PENG / Yang JINCHN13132211.861135.15135.1576.717
12Daria PAVLIUCHENKO / Denis KHODYKINRUS13X132193.081123.62123.6269.468


M/G are likely to qualify. P/K with a chance as well.
 

Karen-W

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These are the current standings with one GP to go:

Dance sounds like a done deal with S/K competing next week and likely to win. Then G/F are likely to make it.

1Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERONFRA1515301441.312264.78132.61176.5320
2Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUEUSA1513281417.442249.07125.96168.3719
3Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIERCAN1513281414.132247.13125.32167.0020
4Madison CHOCK / Evan BATESUSA1313262419.012250.44125.68168.5718
5Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKINRUS1111223402.472241.11120.71161.3620
6Olivia SMART / Adrian DIAZESP911203382.622231.59115.96151.0319
7Caroline GREEN / Michael PARSONSUSA97164364.772216.77114.11148.0020
8Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOVRUS15X151215.441129.11129.1186.339
9Evgeniia LOPAREVA / Geoffrey BRISSAUDFRA59144350.572214.03107.32136.5420
10Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRIITA13X132200.051121.23121.2378.8210
11Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHACAN57125366.452220.13112.93146.3219
12Annabelle MOROZOV / Andrei BAGINRUS75125347.642210.40106.53137.2419
13Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSONGBR011113369.992221.67115.48148.3219
14Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SORENSENCAN11X113190.131114.80114.8075.339
15Sara HURTADO / Kirill KHALIAVINESP9X94188.091111.69111.6976.409
16Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIUCHN994184.591111.31111.3173.2810
S/K yes; G/F - maybe? If FB/S aren't as tight this week as they were at SkAm, then is it possible that they upset G/F for silver? In that scenario, then it would go to total points and I think G/F have a large enough margin to cover any surprise loss to FB/S.
 

tony

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Dance should pretty much be a done deal, with Stepanova/Bukin missing out on the Final.

Women can be shaken up if Hendrickx finishes 2nd or higher, and one of Kromykh or Tuktamysheva is 4th. Otherwise the three Russian women here make it as long as they all finish in the top 4 and Hendrickx isn't higher than 3rd.

Men - Kolyada and Semenenko going 1-2 and Kolyada is in, Semenenko would need to beat Brown on overall points. Semenenko winning and Kolyada 2nd - both in. Kolyada 3rd in this scenario and he may very well be in as well, since his first event score is high (vs. Brown). Only other crazy situation is Rizzo winning, someone like Kondratiuk 2nd, Semenenko 3rd, and Kolyada 4th. And then Brown and Rizzo make it.

Pairs - In this field, it's P/K's spot to lose really.
 

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Men - Kolyada and Semenenko going 1-2 and Kolyada is in, Semenenko would need to beat Brown on overall points. Semenenko winning and Kolyada 2nd - both in. Kolyada 3rd in this scenario and he may very well be in as well, since his first event score is high (vs. Brown). Only other crazy situation is Rizzo winning, someone like Kondratiuk 2nd, Semenenko 3rd, and Kolyada 4th. And then Brown and Rizzo make it.
This isn't even that crazy of a scenario. :lol: There's so much :gallopin1 potential in this field!
 

Karen-W

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Women can be shaken up if Hendrickx finishes 2nd or higher, and one of Kromykh or Tuktamysheva is 4th. Otherwise the three Russian women here make it as long as they all finish in the top 4 and Hendrickx isn't higher than 3rd.

There was a question about whether or not Khromykh injured herself at Warsaw Cup or is nursing some sort of injury because of her issues with the quads there. Her score there was only 194.02, which is very beatable by Loena and Mariah (if she doesn't fall on her combo in the SP), TBH.

Say you have something like Valieva winning, Tuk 2nd, Hendrickx 3rd, Bell 4th, Khromykh 5th - then it would come down to total points between Hendrickx and You for the last spot.
 

GoneWithTheWind

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S/K yes; G/F - maybe? If FB/S aren't as tight this week as they were at SkAm, then is it possible that they upset G/F for silver? In that scenario, then it would go to total points and I think G/F have a large enough margin to cover any surprise loss to FB/S.
Unlikely, but theoretically possible and, as you say, G/F would almost certainly win in the tie-break.
FB/S scores this season: 194.67 (CS Austria), 190.13 (SkAm), 185.26 (Lombardia)
G/F scores this season: 208.88 (CS Austria), 200.05 (SkCan), 205.36 (Lombardia)
 

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Jason is on the bubble, and I think will wind up as 1st alternate because Semenenko will get the tie-breaker score he needs skating on home turf.

I think the Italians make it to the GPF in Ice Dance, too. Interesting that they will get in ahead of S/B, whom they are behind in most people's minds. Maybe it will be the breakthrough they need.
 

toddlj

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~268 (11 points better than his seasons best) is the score he would need... which seems a tall order for Semenenko even with home cooking scores?
 

olympic

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~268 (11 points better than his seasons best) is the score he would need... which seems a tall order for Semenenko even with home cooking scores?
Trust me. I would love to see Jason in the GPF, but ... Russia politik in an Olympic year is a major force.
 

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Maybe itā€™s likely that Kolyada can underperform big time but still place second with Semeneko getting first with a ā€œrealisticā€ score for him. Whatever home cooking can happen, I will wonder if it will be on par with what Grassl got at GP Italy.

ETA: Women will most likely be 5 Russians with Sakamoto. Poor Kaori.
 
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euterpe

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Maybe itā€™s likely that Kolyada can underperform big time but still place second with Semeneko getting first with a ā€œrealisticā€ score for him. Whatever home cooking can happen, I will wonder if it will be on par with what Grassl got at GP Italy.

ETA: Women will most likely be 5 Russians with Sakamoto. Poor Kaori.
Don't forget: GPF is in Japan. The audience will be behind Kaori all the way!
 

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Ice Dance:

1Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERONFRA1515301441.312264.78132.61176.5320Q
2Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOVRUS1515301427.162254.02129.11173.1417Q
3Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUEUSA1513281417.442249.07125.96168.3719Q
4Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIERCAN1513281414.132247.13125.32167.0020Q
5Madison CHOCK / Evan BATESUSA1313262419.012250.44125.68168.5718Q
6Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRIITA1313262403.762245.38124.15158.3818Q

Guignard & Fabbri just edged out Stepanova & Bukin for the 6th and final qualifying spot.
 
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Guignard & Fabbri just edged out Stepanova & Bukin for the 6th and final qualifying spot.
Well personally I wouldn't call that just edging them out since Gui/Fab had 26 points from 2 second placements and Ste/Buk had 22 points from 2 third placements. That is, after all, the 1st tie-breaker. They were definitely close though on the second tie-breaker of total scores.
 

AngieNikodinovLove

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So the men are:
1. Kagiyama JPN (30)
2. Uno JPN (28)
3. Zhao USA (28)
4. Chen USA (26)
5. Kolyada RUS (26)
6. Brown USA (24)

Alternates
1. Sato JPN (22)
2. Kvitelashvili GEO (20)
3. Cha KOR (18)

Strange to see Nathan with number four in front of his name. Great that all three US men go to the final. Will all three of them retire after this though? Then who do we have in the pipeline? Senior-Wise
 

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Strange to see Nathan with number four in front of his name. Great that all three US men go to the final. Will all three of them retire after this though? Then who do we have in the pipeline? Senior-Wise
That is the subject of a lot of speculation. I think Nathan wants a life outside of skating and Vincent has delayed admission to an Ivy League school (I think), so I think it's quite possible that both are gone after 2022. Jason has been thru 3 Olympic cycles and IMO, he has maxed out what he can show us on the ice, so it also wouldn't be surprise me if he also retires. But Ilia Malinin seems to be a wunderkind, and will likely bear the torch for team USA for the future, but it looks like for the time being that he is the only one who can keep up w. the youngsters coming from JPN
 

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There's this guy named Ilia but no one on the board really seems to talk about him about for some reason.
Wow. I watched his skate at Linz...what a talent. He has all kinds of potential to be great. Quick rotations on the quads. Music was somewhat dull but his skating was so interesting it didn't matter and for me, that's impressive. Will be watching this young man.
 

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Of course, Iā€™m a big Ilia fanā€¦but what happened to Yaro Paniot after his weird withdrawal from an early challenger in Sept? Will cross-post this in US Menā€™s thread.
 

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