Papadakis/Cizeron #9 - People Will See Them And Cry

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Oh effortless, always but I still would love something more. Their Tango one foot step sequence was stunning last year and I feel this can be more. But as you said it will grow, and we know they are good at peeking at the right time.

Yep, couldn't agree more. With dancers as phenomenal as these two are, it's a shame to have only a great dance number and not a superb/phenomenal as they themselves are. I hope they work on it a little bit more.
 
The midline also fills too empty to me, but as per usual their program feels like 2 second long. Amazing. Congrats and keep it up tomorrow.

I have been loving this RD from the start.The midline has bothered me though.It does look very empty .I thought they may have worked on adding to it but it looks the same to me.It did look smoother overall and twizzles were better.
 
We'll probably see bigger changes (if any) by the Europeans. The GPF's coming soon and now they'll probably just focus on polishing the programmes. I still wish they'd tweaked the dances a little, esp. the rd.
The costume change worked for me. (I wasn't sure at the beginning but as soon as the programme started I think it goes along with the fd quite well). Congratulations on the NHK title. Enjoy the night. And then fly home and go back to work again. :lol:
 
The FD has...I don't want to say kicked, it doesn't sound right. Flowed up another notch? It's really doing that thing of creating a four-minute-long still moment that you hang within while they skate. And the fluid shift from one element to the next, where they don't even look like separate things, is becoming more pronounced. The camerawork was dire, but I was enthralled nonetheless. Can't wait for the GPF to see where it goes from here.
 
They made it a whole and they never stop moving for one second (well expect during the character step sequence of course) There is constant movement throughout which was very clear skating just after the Russians who chose a style of movements closer to the French this year. So the comparison was striking. The other fascinating element is how they fill up the rink in a way absolutely no other team does. I was trying to understand why, because Guillaume is tall, yes, but he's not the only one. It's the way they generate speed and just keep moving constantly. They never slow down once they start. All the other teams kind of pause here and there especially while transitioning in and out of elements. Don't know but it is still fascinating to me.
Some say they skated their RD better in France but I couldn't agree less. The 1st part here was much more precise especially on Gaby's part, no stumble and neater pattern. In the second, they got a bit out of synch on that flying High lift, they need to be careful and hit that moment properly otherwise it just falls flat. They can still crank up the camp attitude, they shouldn't be afraid of being ridicule imo. Just go for it.
 
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I actually preferred their costumes back at IdF compared to this. Those were a tad too simple but then freer and showed off Gabi’s leg line better. Her looser hair at IdF also seemed to add more expression in motion, an air of innocence and vulnerability.
 
They made it a whole and they never stop moving for one second (well expect during the character step sequence of course) There is constant movements throughout which was very clear skating just after the Russians who chose a style of movements closer to the French this year. So the comparison was striking. The other fascinating element is how they fill up the rink in a way absolutely no other team does. I was trying to understand why, because Guillaume is tall, yes, but he's not the only one. It's the way they generate speed and just keep moving constantly. They never slow down once they start. All the other teams kind of pause here and there especially while transitioning in and out of elements. Don't know but it is still fascinating to me.
Some say they skated their RD better in France but I couldn't agree less. The 1st part here was much more precise especially on Gaby's part, no stumble and neater pattern. In the second, they got a bit out of synch on that flying High lift, they need to be careful and hit that moment properly otherwise it just falls flat. They can still crank up the camp attitude, they shouldn't be afraid of being ridicule imo. Just go for it.

Their ice coverage has been the best in the world for a few years now. Back in the Olympic season the size of the pattern in their RD already outshined V/M. As to the Fame RD skated here, I do think the transitions are better timed to the music change. They also changed the placement of the final lift and the mini-lift before, which might explain the loss of sync. Not sure this version is necessarily an improvement.
 
Their ice coverage has been the best in the world for a few years now. Back in the Olympic season the size of the pattern in their RD already outshined V/M.
Of course the ice coverage has always been impressive but still fascinating and again it's not only their ice coverage but the non stop movement as I mentioned which truly give the impression the rink can hardly contain them.

About the new FD outfits, I quite like that nonchalant silver brush across the chest. It adds something mineral and in this shot, it really pops, stunning.
 
I was a little disappointed that Charlie and Tanith White in commentating on NHK and IDF respectively were less than enthusiastic about P/C’s RD. They both mentioned two-foot skating, but Charlie also mentioned the music choice and costuming as not being his favorites. I respect these two as commentators so I was a bit disappointed, as they’re usually big P/C fans.

I totally disagree with their assessments of the dance, however! It’s absolutely awesome. (I wouldn’t mind seeing even more detail and a more exciting ending, though.)
 
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I was a little disappointed that Charlie and Tanith White in commentating on NHK and IDF respectively were less than enthusiastic about P/C’s RD. They both mentioned two-foot skating, but Charlie also mentioned the music choice and costuming as not being his favorites. I respect these two as commentators so I was a bit disappointed, as they’re usually big P/C fans.

I totally disagree with their assessments of the dance, however! It’s absolutely awesome. (I wouldn’t mind seeing even more detail and a more exciting ending, though.)

Charlie is kind of the diametric opposite of Ben. Whereas Ben sprinkles in his critiques within a general frame of what he appreciates about the performance, Charlie goes for what’s not working in his opinion in the forefront. If you watch the first flight of the FD at NHK, at one point he even says his commentary can come across as complaining :) It’s actually kind of hard to get through for the lower ranked teams IMO.
 
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Needs more footwork close holds in the slow middle section.Until those twizzles at the boards theres nothing gone on before that :shuffle:
I love it just the way it is. It suits the choreographic integrity of the piece. If any thing it needs more air, power and ease. The program is perfect as is, but it will be for some an acquired taste. If persons wanted more SITR, please view their ICE gala performance in the genre, it is better than anything we've seen all season. P/C though genius will not and cannot please all tastes all the time, pointless even to try.
 
Well I just watched the coverage with Charlie and he wasn’t overtly critical at all. He said they’re a team that pushes boundaries. The program gets the crowd on their feet. He says it’s not his favorite style for them because they have to skate on two feet for a bit, but even he finds he can’t help but enjoy the program.
 
Charlie also was very effusive in his praise of their qualities in his FD commentary, but gave a very valid and articulate critique of the spoken word piece chosen.

(Happy that we’ve got the Olympic channel commentary for both segments at NHK. Wonder why the IdF FD broadcast wasn’t recorded with Belbin/Agosto commentary.)
 
Charlie also was very effusive in his praise of their qualities in his FD commentary, but gave a very valid and articulate critique of the spoken word piece chosen.

(Happy that we’ve got the Olympic channel commentary for both segments at NHK. Wonder why the IdF FD broadcast wasn’t recorded with Belbin/Agosto commentary.)
What did he say about the spoken words ?
NVM I found the video.
 
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I should have said it was about choosing to skate to it, not that poem itself.
Well considering there wasn't a warhorse he and Meryl did not skate to and their mission was Olympic Gold not necessarily pushing the artistic boundaries of the sport his comments sound perfectly reasoned, by his standards at least.
 
Well considering there wasn't a warhorse he and Meryl did not skate to and their mission was Olympic Gold not necessarily pushing the artistic boundaries of the sport his comments sound perfectly reasoned, by his standards at least.
But when you have to explain the program, you lose the audience.
 
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