ISU Grand Prix Assignments 2018/19 season

[kwanfan1818]

The only thing that could make Li/Xie elegible is because he was Top 24 in WS with his previous partner and that somehow carries over to the new partnership though nothing is explicit about it in previous GP rules.

The explicit rule for returning split couples is that they had to have been 7-12 at one of the last two Worlds with an old partner. For whatever reason, except for the first season they created the category, and the rules were different, they've left off the actual criteria for split couples who have been 1-6 at prior Worlds with an old partner. They haven't changed that this year; the GP Announcement just came out. There has never been any split couple rule based on WS or SB, aside from taking the highest score of the old couple and slotting it into the SB list, for the purpose of creating an alternates list, if they get less than two in the initial selection.

 

[Sabine-Yuna]

Great news for Hase/Seegert: They got vacant spots of Skate America and Internationaux de France
https://www.sport.de/news/ne3309532/zwei-grand-prix-einladungen-fuer-hase-seegert/

German battle is on, head to head with H/B at SkatAm

Great news for Hase/Seegert: They got vacant spots of Skate America and Internationaux de France
https://www.sport.de/news/ne3309532/zwei-grand-prix-einladungen-fuer-hase-seegert/

German battle is on, head to head with H/B at SkatAm

Battling Hase/ Segert would be a step back for Hocke/ Blommaert. With what they've achieved in their very first season they probably are more into a battle with the American teams and Efimova/ Korovin. That's what I hope for!

 

[SamuraiK]

The explicit rule for returning split couples is that they had to have been 7-12 at one of the last two Worlds with an old partner. For whatever reason, except for the first season they created the category, and the rules were different, they've left off the actual criteria for split couples who have been 1-6 at prior Worlds with an old partner. They haven't changed that this year; the GP Announcement just came out. There has never been any split couple rule based on WS or SB, aside from taking the highest score of the old couple and slotting it into the SB list, for the purpose of creating an alternates list, if they get less than two in the initial selection.

So basically CHN is again getting away with it with nobody in ISU bothering to check their own rules (again).

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

/Seegert

Ohhh la la

ANL is placing him for Porny awards 2020.

Dont worry y'all. Im on it!!!!!

 

[alchemy void]

Great news for Hase/Seegert: They got vacant spots of Skate America and Internationaux de France

Good for them! Mari will also be pleased.

 

[feraina]

Sad for Sui and Han. And rather worried for her continuing injury troubles. At this rate, can they even last until 2022?

 

[SamuraiK]

Sad for Sui and Han. And rather worried for her continuing injury troubles. At this rate, can they even last until 2022?

The best for her should be rest and let that damn foot injury heal properly. I still remember 2013 worlds when she was pushed to compete after getting injured for the first time and then she couldn't even get out of the ice without Cong's help. It only made matters worse for them since then.

If there's a season to miss completely then this is it.

 

[SmallFairy]

Whoa, Hase/Seegert!

 

[kwanfan1818]

So basically CHN is again getting away with it with nobody in ISU bothering to check their own rules (again).

USFS invited them, which they didn't have to do, so...

It's funny, because the Announcement says that for replacements, the ISU Grand Prix Coordination group has to approve them (section 3.5, which refers to 7.6), and we know what great oversight the ISU has shown in the past

 

[tony]

27 Stellato & Bartholomay USA - Rostelecom Cup
33 Ruest & Wolfe CAN - SCI
35 Hase & Seegert GER - SA & IdF
39 Poluianova & Sopot RUS - returning to JGP, I assume
(status?) 40 Esbrat & Novoselov FRA - IdF
41 Lu & Mitrofanov USA
42 Walsh & Michaud CAN - SCI
43 Pfund & Santillan USA
44 Suzaki & Kihara JPN - NHK
47 Barquero & Maestu ESP

Copying @Sylvia's post from earlier in the thread. Lots of open spots and depending on how they go about using the top 10 list (or if they even go by it at all), many of these teams may end up with two events.

Hase/Seegert are already listed at Skate America per the ISU, and @Jeschke linked to the article saying they also got a spot at France.

There are two spots in Finland, potentially three if the Finnish Federation doesn't use their allocated spot/doesn't have a team by then. But for now, ANY of the listed teams could end up there.

NHK has one open spot, and Suzaki/Kihara are already there but anyone else could get the spot.

Esbrat/Novoselov are already at IdF but their status is unknown and may potentially open another spot. One for now (excluding the spot H/S are reported to have gotten), and that can go to any of the other teams, as well.

S/B (USA) should be able to pick up a second event without using the USFS host pick, which may very well go to Digerness/Neudecker (they don't need a minimum as a host pick, correct?) I wouldn't be surprised if the Spanish team gets Finland.

 

[happycamper2554]

Copying @Sylvia's post from earlier in the thread. Lots of open spots and depending on how they go about using the top 10 list (or if they even go by it at all), many of these teams may end up with two events.

Hase/Seegert are already listed at Skate America per the ISU, and @Jeschke linked to the article saying they also got a spot at France.

There are two spots in Finland, potentially three if the Finnish Federation doesn't use their allocated spot/doesn't have a team by then. But for now, ANY of the listed teams could end up there.

NHK has one open spot, and Suzaki/Kihara are already there but anyone else could get the spot.

Esbrat/Novoselov are already at IdF but their status is unknown and may potentially open another spot. One for now (excluding the spot H/S are reported to have gotten), and that can go to any of the other teams, as well.

S/B (USA) should be able to pick up a second event without using the USFS host pick, which may very well go to Digerness/Neudecker (they don't need a minimum as a host pick, correct?) I wouldn't be surprised if the Spanish team gets Finland.

I was thinking Calalang and Johnson for host spot.

 

[Cleo1782]

I was thinking Calalang and Johnson for host spot.

They were 15 points below Digerness/Neudecker score at Skate Detroit. Calalang/Johnson were competing by themselves at local competition and Skate Detroit had a real field. So I highly doubt it.

 

[victorskid]

Esbrat/Novoselov are no more, according to her Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bluv1uIjuWf/?hl=en&taken-by=loloesb

 

[Vagabond]

USFS invited them, which they didn't have to do, so...

It's funny, because the Announcement says that for replacements, the ISU Grand Prix Coordination group has to approve them (section 3.5, which refers to 7.6), and we know what great oversight the ISU has shown in the past

One would think that TPTB at USFS and the ISU would glance at this thread from time to time, but no.

 

[RoseRed]

Ruest/Wolfe got one of the other spots at IdF according to their website. There's one more open there because E/N are indeed not listed, but I guess that could go to a French pair. Then the 2 at the Finnish GP.

So now we have this I guess:

27 Stellato & Bartholomay USA - Rostelecom Cup
41 Lu & Mitrofanov USA
42 Walsh & Michaud CAN - SCI
43 Pfund & Santillan USA
44 Suzaki & Kihara JPN - NHK
47 Barquero & Maestu ESP
50 Zhang & Song CHN
53 Danilova & Kamianchuk BLR
56 Jones & Boyadj GBR
57 Matte & Ferland CAN

 

[Hanna]

Not really about assignments but in case anyone is looking to buy a ticket for the Helsinki GP - the Fanyus seem to have filled the seats in the last 18 minutes so you might want to act quickly. Most of the lower bowl is gone.

 

[tony]

Ruest/Wolfe got one of the other spots at IdF according to their website. There's one more open there because E/N are indeed not listed, but I guess that could go to a French pair. Then the 2 at the Finnish GP.

So now we have this I guess:

27 Stellato & Bartholomay USA - Rostelecom Cup
41 Lu & Mitrofanov USA
42 Walsh & Michaud CAN - SCI
43 Pfund & Santillan USA
44 Suzaki & Kihara JPN - NHK
47 Barquero & Maestu ESP
50 Zhang & Song CHN
53 Danilova & Kamianchuk BLR
56 Jones & Boyadj GBR
57 Matte & Ferland CAN

Good for R/W getting another assignment. That leaves two in Finland, potentially three (you’d think they would announce their team initially if they wanted them to skate..), one in Japan, and one in France, plus the TBA at Skate America. I doubt Gailhahuet is going to substitute a French team- he would have named them in the beginning or at least held the spot.

The pairs fields are extremely wiped out but it’s at least giving many different teams the opportunity to compete on a higher level before the Majors.

 

[SamuraiK]

Ruest/Wolfe got one of the other spots at IdF according to their website. There's one more open there because E/N are indeed not listed, but I guess that could go to a French pair. Then the 2 at the Finnish GP.

So now we have this I guess:

27 Stellato & Bartholomay USA - Rostelecom Cup
41 Lu & Mitrofanov USA
42 Walsh & Michaud CAN - SCI
43 Pfund & Santillan USA
44 Suzaki & Kihara JPN - NHK
47 Barquero & Maestu ESP
50 Zhang & Song CHN
53 Danilova & Kamianchuk BLR
56 Jones & Boyadj GBR
57 Matte & Ferland CAN

Zhang & Song are not part of the national team so I really doubt CHN fed even submitted their names for GP consideration.
Danilova & Kamianchuk havent competed since last Nebelhorn despite having minimuns for Euros and Worls so probably they split after failing to make the olys.

We are reaching the bottom with Pairs..

 

[haribobo]

I secretly love it when that happens, the randomness of a situation where pfund/santillan get 2 assignments would be kinda amazing

 

[peibeck]

I secretly love it when that happens, the randomness of a situation where pfund/santillan get 2 assignments would be kinda amazing

I love they are getting a chance. Their basics are not the greatest, but they are more consistent in overall elements than some other higher ranked US pairs.

 

[Sylvia]

I love they are getting a chance.

Just to clarify - Pfund/Santillan have not been assigned to a GP as an alternate (yet, anyway).

@RoseRed pointed out Esbrat/Novoselov (split) have been replaced by Ruest/Wolfe (CAN) in France, although this is not yet reflected on the ISU's GP pairs grid as of July 31: https://isu.org/docman-documents-li.../17410-pair-skating-2018-19-all-6-events/file

Ruest/Wolfe got one of the other spots at IdF according to their website. There's one more open there because E/N are indeed not listed, but I guess that could go to a French pair. Then the 2 at the Finnish GP.

So now we have this I guess:

27 Stellato & Bartholomay USA - Rostelecom Cup
41 Lu & Mitrofanov USA
42 Walsh & Michaud CAN - SCI
43 Pfund & Santillan USA
44 Suzaki & Kihara JPN - NHK
47 Barquero & Maestu ESP
50 Zhang & Song CHN
53 Danilova & Kamianchuk BLR
56 Jones & Boyadj GBR
57 Matte & Ferland CAN

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I don't understand tho how a team who had 0 goes to 2 just like that.... passing up teams who qualify for a second event before them?

I cant wait to see how far down Rostelecom digs to find their replacements.......

 

[SamuraiK]

I don't understand tho how a team who had 0 goes to 2 just like that.... passing up teams who qualify for a second event before them?

I cant wait to see how far down Rostelecom digs to find their replacements.......

Because feds can pick the susbtitute based on the top 10 alternate lists. It's not mandatory to pick the next in line team nor is it a rule that a team with 1 has to get its second before another team gets its first event. This is mostly to give feds enough freedom to select whoever they think is less costly to travel or less threatening to their own skaters or any other reason.

So it just happens both USA and FRA picked Hase/Seegert and now they have 2.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Because feds can pick the susbtitute based on the top 10 alternate lists. It's not mandatory to pick the next in line team nor is it a rule that a team with 1 has to get its second before another team gets its first event. This is mostly to give feds enough freedom to select whoever they think is less costly to travel or less threatening to their own skaters or any other reason.

So it just happens both USA and FRA picked Hase/Seegert and now they have 2.

But I do think that things have changed... because I remember when Angela Nikodinov, who had one assignment won Skate America in 2004. She was then quickly added for an opening by CoC for a week and a half after that...

A. a gold medalist now a threat.

B. mega expensive to fly her and Igor there.

 

[SamuraiK]

But I do think that things have changed... because I remember when Angela Nikodinov, who had one assignment won Skate America in 2004. She was then quickly added for an opening by CoC for a week and a half after that...

A. a gold medalist now a threat.

B. mega expensive to fly her and Igor there.

You are talking about 14 years ago.. There weren't SB lists to pick from and Trusova quad queen wasn't even born.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

and I wasnt on mood stabilizers yet, so theres that.

 

[Samurina]

Min/Gamelin split so one open spot for Skate America in dance.

I think it will go to Sales/Wamsteeker of Canada because of Lake Placid International dance trophy but for America TBD I think it will be a junior team that is eligible for seniors like maybe Lewis/Bye that had Bronze at Junior nationals who have real potential for senior circut

 

[Sylvia]

... but for America TBD I think it will go to Aldridge/Eaton of USA

Aldridge/Eaton have split. The only other senior dance team without a GP assignment in USFS' ISP is Karina Manta/Joe Johnson, and I hope they finally get to make their GP debut.

 

[Samurina]

I liked them. According to his instagram it's she who decided to end the partnership. If he indeed wants to continue and now that he has KOR citizenship I would suggest to search in the growing pool of lesser ranked KOR girls willing to switch. (what happened with Ho-Jung Lee)

Anyways.. Next 10 Dance teams in the SB:

- Fear & Gibson GBR (SA)
- Evdokimova & Bazin RUS (COR)
- Muller & Dieck GER (SA)
- Yanovskaya & Lukacs HUN (COR)
- Reed & Ambrulevicius LTU (IdF)
- Torn & Partanen (Finland)
- Tweedale & Buckland GBR (SC)
- Mansour & Ceska CZE (Finland)
- Koch & Nuchtern GER
- Garabedian & Senecal ARM (COR)

If Mansour & Ceska are indeed continuing and traning in US. I would bet on them. Reed & Ambrulevicius is the other obvious choice.

No. 1 Fear/Gibson have already been chosen for Skate America and I thought it would go to Canada because of their 2018 International Lake Placid Ice Dance trophy BRONZE Medal

 

[Samurina]

When do the TBD spots have to be filled? If, in fact, Gracie is planning a comeback, could the US also give her SA?

I think yes but for the Rostelecom Cup's ladies TBD I hope it is Samadurova maybe Sakhonovich & Ice Dance Evdokimova/Bazin and for Men I think on SB ranking it could be Brendan Kerry and Cha Jun-hwan