Is there any skater who you think is likely to sweep the upcoming quad

Kaetlyn is certainly inconsistent with her long program, but she is very reliable short program skater. If she skates her short in Italy exactly as she did in the individual, she will magically get 80+.

Agreed about the short program and I’m hoping that she’s finally got that long program tamed. Then again she was working to peak for the Olympics so who knows. I always find a Worlds after an Olympics is so unpredictable - I really don’t know what to expect. Do we even know if both Russian Ladies will be there?
 
Agreed about the short program and I’m hoping that she’s finally got that long program tamed. Then again she was working to peak for the Olympics so who knows. I always find a Worlds after an Olympics is so unpredictable - I really don’t know what to expect. Do we even know if both Russian Ladies will be there?

Both are planning to go, as per Jackie Wong's twitter
 
I am heartbroken for Miyahara. If anyone deserved a medal this quad, it was her. She was at an extreme disadvantage compared to the other girls and she worked harder than anyone, developed her artistry more than anyone, and gave two of the best skates of her life. I don't know if she will try for 2022 or not, and she may be surpassed by others even if she does, but I would never count that girl out. She's a good one.

She's planning to, according to an interview I posted in her cheer thread.
 
I keep forgetting that Bradie is 20. I think of her as a 16 year old, probably because of her programs. I am sure she can work on her presentation.

I think of her as a kid, too. Probably because she skates to Cinderella.

I don't think any skater will dominate the next quad. Injuries probably will make that impossible.
 
I think Tennell can improve her artistry somewhat but I never see her being a world beater. She is just a consistent skater, and even that who knows once she has some pressure on her as we saw at the Olympics. Jumps are usually steady and good, but not great, and the Russians and many others still have higher base values than her. PCS unlikely to ever be great. If she gets a medal at worlds someday it would be a great success for her, and even that would surprise me a bit.
 
One thing to remember is that no country has ever had 3 straight gold medal winners except Norway. Not even the U.S. And that wasn't a federation thing, that was a personal thing with Sonja and her desire to do whatever it took to win.

The other countries eventually gang up on someone who has too much success. I don't think Russia will dominate ladies this next quad even as a country, let alone one skater.
 
I think the most likely by far is Papadakis/Cizeron, especially since they lost the OGM by such a slim margin unless the tides change for whatever reason and P/C are no longer seen as simply above and beyond everyone else. I also think if a Russian team became the "it" team, then they'll have the judges' support to challenge P/C.
 
I could be wrong but I think Russia has all but given up on dance for the moment. I expect it to continue to be their weakest discipline in the new quad. They have some promising men, and even Kolyada still has a lot of untapped potential to be a threat if he sorts out his mental game, and they have numerous promising pairs. I dont even see any particularly promising Russian teams coming up, I wouldnt be surprised if Stepanova & Bukin are their top team this quad which isnt saying much as at best they might have a Bobrova & Soloviev like career.
 
I could be wrong but I think Russia has all but given up on dance for the moment. I expect it to continue to be their weakest discipline in the new quad. They have some promising men, and even Kolyada still has a lot of untapped potential to be a threat if he sorts out his mental game, and they have numerous promising pairs. I dont even see any particularly promising Russian teams coming up, I wouldnt be surprised if Stepanova & Bukin are their top team this quad which isnt saying much as at best they might have a Bobrova & Soloviev like career.

Some people were convinced that Stepanova/Bukin would have won the bronze in Pyeongchang. I'm not one of those, but I do wonder if they or another promising team would provide enough contrast to P/C to be a challenger (much like D/W did for V/M from 2011-2014).
 
The problem with Stepanova & Bukin is she is not a strong enough skater IMO. He is one of the best (although even he has a hard time living up to the amazing Cizeron), but she would need to vastly improve for them to be a challenger for gold. They have the look and the unique style potentially though, particularly with Russian politics. They also have good chemistry between them.
 
The problem with Stepanova & Bukin is she is not a strong enough skater IMO. He is one of the best (although even he has a hard time living up to the amazing Cizeron), but she would need to vastly improve for them to be a challenger for gold. They have the look and the unique style potentially though, particularly with Russian politics. They also have good chemistry between them.
The biggest issue with Stepanova/Bukin isn't their skating right now. It's whether or not they can participate in 2022, if the IOC decides to keep up with the very strict rules, to as they said "clean up the sport once and for all", they said it's going to take years. Because if Bukin isn't allowed to participate in Beijing, they might get dumped by the fed. What would be the point of investing money ?

I'm with @VIETgrlTerifa I did not see them in Bronze at this games, but maybe top 6 ? But with a strict panel their Rumba pattern might have been an issue (even though it got better), plus the technical on step sequences. But they can challenge for a top 5 at Worlds maybe. We'll have to see if Shibs and C/B go first because I have no idea.
 
As for Chen while he has potential to be dominant, I think he more likely is to be someone who wins sometimes (he has a good shot of winning a couple world titles in his career) but isnt dominant, since what he is trying is so high risk, he will continue to have a hard time being consistent. He will be unbeatable when he goes clean, but he wont often go clean.
 
As for Chen while he has potential to be dominant, I think he more likely is to be someone who wins sometimes (he has a good shot of winning a couple world titles in his career) but isnt dominant, since what he is trying is so high risk, he will continue to have a hard time being consistent. He will be unbeatable when he goes clean, but he wont often go clean.

If he improves his PCS and is able to handle pressure, he could become dominant. However, Jin is not far behind and he has the jumps. Uno has the jumps and presentation. Aliev could develop. If he becomes consistent, he could challenge Chen. I won't be surprised if Chen wins in Milan next month, based on what we saw with the LP scores. No way on earth should Chen and Zhou's freeskates have beaten the mens podium in pyeong Chang. However, these days quads alone are enough for winning.
 
If he improves his PCS and is able to handle pressure, he could become dominant. However, Jin is not far behind and he has the jumps. Uno has the jumps and presentation. Aliev could develop. If he becomes consistent, he could challenge Chen. I won't be surprised if Chen wins in Milan next month, based on what we saw with the LP scores. No way on earth should Chen and Zhou's freeskates have beaten the mens podium in pyeong Chang. However, these days quads alone are enough for winning.

System is really messed up unfortunately.
 
Aliev could win anywhere from 2 to 4 European titles - that's about as close to a sweep that we'll get on the men's side
 
I hope there isn't any skater who will dominate.
I like the unexpected and the upsets and the underdogs rising up. (Because Han Yan could still be World Champion, right? Am I right??)
 
The biggest issue with Stepanova/Bukin isn't their skating right now. It's whether or not they can participate in 2022, if the IOC decides to keep up with the very strict rules, to as they said "clean up the sport once and for all", they said it's going to take years. Because if Bukin isn't allowed to participate in Beijing, they might get dumped by the fed. What would be the point of investing money ?

I'm with @VIETgrlTerifa I did not see them in Bronze at this games, but maybe top 6 ? But with a strict panel their Rumba pattern might have been an issue (even though it got better), plus the technical on step sequences. But they can challenge for a top 5 at Worlds maybe. We'll have to see if Shibs and C/B go first because I have no idea.

Because it's only Olympics that count for something? :confused:
 
Because it's only Olympics that count for something? :confused:
To me, no. To figure skating ? This is the most important title. In some countries you can have it without the rest it's fine. And it's political for a country like Russia who was "banned" from those games. They'll want them all now.
 
I hope there isn't any skater who will dominate.
I like the unexpected and the upsets and the underdogs rising up. (Because Han Yan could still be World Champion, right? Am I right??)
Yan Han!! Really want to see him at the top of his game again :biggrinbo Will remain positive that he can bounce back.

On a side note, I don't think Nathan is that unbeatable even when clean tbh. Boyang and Shoma have pretty good tech scores too (though obv not comparable) and their PCS scores are rising too.

There will be so many contenders in the men's field - glad we live in such exciting times!
 

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