Tessa Virtue & Scott Moir # 47: Come What May...

[LisaLemon]

Even if you’re not religious we all must pray that the US, FRA, RUS judges are out for the FD lmao! I would even take RUS or FRA over US so done with Sharon Rogers. Is there a way to report her? She needs go and it’s not even just about VM her scoring for all teams is suspect. Idk how I’m going to handle tonight. I had plans last night so I could skip watching live, but I’ll actually be home tonight

So agree! I am gonna be ill if the Canadian is out & SR of the states is still there along with the French & Russia judges..the skating gods can't be that cruel can they?


Only positive I can think of is, V&M skate LAST & they are leading so imo in ice dance if the leaders skate a good clean program & make no blatant mistakes they should carry that over & win the Gold..
I don't see how if V&M skate like they can & being that they are ending the event by skating last..the judges can deny them this win..naive I know

 

[carpis]

Even if you’re not religious we all must pray that the US, FRA, RUS judges are out for the FD lmao! I would even take RUS or FRA over US so done with Sharon Rogers. Is there a way to report her? She needs go and it’s not even just about VM her scoring for all teams is suspect. Idk how I’m going to handle tonight. I had plans last night so I could skip watching live, but I’ll actually be home tonight

I want FR and US out more than RUS.

 

[screech]

If the US and FR judges are out and Canada wins, cue the whinging that Canada won because of the judging panel. Also, the same thing if the Canadian judges are out and the French win.

(I prefer V/M to P/C but I want whoever will favour WeaPo lol)

 

[Shayii]

BTW I keep seeing from various places we shouldn’t question the judging because of Gabby’s wardrobe malfunction even Meryl Davis implied this. Ok, are these people for real. Yes, it sucks and I feel bad for her, but it doesn’t negate that the judges are crazy or that we should turn a blind eye to their cheating. Tessa has had a few nipslips herself, unfortunate thing to happen.

 

[double runner]

I have compiled a tweets comparing a few of the elements. I’m trying to stay objective as possible but you be the judge.

https://twitter.com/stethoscope131/status/965655377911209986

 

[Shayii]

So agree! I am gonna be ill if the Canadian is out & SR of the states is still there along with the French & Russia judges..the skating gods can't be that cruel can they?


Only positive I can think of is, V&M skate LAST & they are leading so imo in ice dance if the leaders skate a good clean program & make no blatant mistakes they should carry that over & win the Gold..
I don't see how if V&M skate like they can & being that they are ending the event by skating last..the judges can deny them this win..naive I know

I tend to agree. If everyone skates great and VM skate lights out, the judges wouldn’t be able to justify more than a point separating the teams. If they dare, they can expect another Salt Lake situation in their hands.

 

[Deleted member 74551]

BTW I keep seeing from various places we shouldn’t question the judging because of Gabby’s wardrobe malfunction even Meryl Davis implied this. Ok, are these people for real. Yes, it sucks and I feel bad for her, but it doesn’t negate that the judges are crazy or that we should turn a blind eye to their cheating. Tessa has had a few nipslips herself, unfortunate thing to happen.

Meryl Davis is probably not the most likely person to advocate for something that would benefit Tessa Virtue.

The costume thing really really sucked. I felt awful for Gabi. But this is the Olympics, we're not meant to be dealing in hypothetical 'well this would've been much better if...' statements.

 

[Deleted member 74551]

I have compiled a tweets comparing a few of the elements. I’m trying to stay objective as possible but you be the judge.

https://twitter.com/stethoscope131/status/965655377911209986

Idk why I remain so invested in these events sometimes, especially when my favourite athletes are involved.

 

[Judy]

I tend to agree. If everyone skates great and VM skate lights out, the judges wouldn’t be able to justify more than a point separating the teams. If they dare, they can expect another Salt Lake situation in their hands.

That’s really not possible without a judge admitting to cheating which will never happen.

 

[Sonata]

I have no doubt V/M will skate lights out! They must feel great after seeing that the work they did analyzing their Team Event performances was rewarded with a world record. At this point, their mental prep is so strong that even Marina standing rinkside wearing an American jacket next to the Olympics mascot will not derail them!

The only doubt I have is the judging and the levels. But VM would be the first to say it's outside their control

Interesting suggestions, Golden1. I think such changes would help fans, skaters and the judges themselves understand what to look for when judging. Otherwise, there is no accountability and no feedback on how to judge more critically. When there is such a spread on PCS and GOE based on the same criteria, you have to wonder.

 

[LisaLemon]

Dang it still no ESP or BBC link to watch the SD..if anyone gets it please post asap! lol

 

[Winnipeg]

The fix is in.

The French were way overscored relative to all he top ten teams. They should be in 9 th or tenth

 

[Plusdinfo]

I really like the skating order. One way to think about it: even if Tessa and Scott aren't flawless, even if they don't get judged as one feels is just, even if they don't win (or get a medal or whatever), they're gonna finish, get their marks, and you can disconnect as opposed to seeing them do great and then have to wait for some later couple to possibly jump over them in the standings.

Frankly, I really like the top three teams more than the rest based on what they have done in the past four years. I would love for the medal standings to be Papadakis/Cizeron with bronze, Hubbell/Donohue with silver, and Virtue/Moir with gold. I'm not expecting it, but you never know... and at least I can watch them in ascending order based on the skating order.

BREATHE, everyone! And try to enjoy the skating instead of letting judges' marks get you down!!

 

[elisa_p]

Meryl Davis is probably not the most likely person to advocate for something that would benefit Tessa Virtue.

The costume thing really really sucked. I felt awful for Gabi. But this is the Olympics, we're not meant to be dealing in hypothetical 'well this would've been much better if...' statements.

Exactly. I also felt awful for Gabi last night but they were tight from the start of that program. This is a sport and what happens on the ice should be judged. No other sport will give pity marks because an athlete had a wardrobe malfunction that may or may not have affected their performance. If that was the case, why have ID as a sport at all? Especially when a lot of the same folks were up in arms last year at worlds after V/M won despite Scott's stumble.

 

[Rafter]

So agree! I am gonna be ill if the Canadian is out & SR of the states is still there along with the French & Russia judges..the skating gods can't be that cruel can they?


Only positive I can think of is, V&M skate LAST & they are leading so imo in ice dance if the leaders skate a good clean program & make no blatant mistakes they should carry that over & win the Gold..
I don't see how if V&M skate like they can & being that they are ending the event by skating last..the judges can deny them this win..naive I know

Don’t count on it. The judges will shower P/C with +3s and tons of 10.00s. If they got that many 10.00s in a SD that flawed in a few spots and lacklustre, imagine how many they’ll get in the FD.

I rewatched V/M from the CBC coverage and noticed at the end when they showed the audience. You could see Lambiel standing and clapping for them and right in front of him was Zoueva who was not clapping and looking very unimpressed.

 

[elisa_p]

So what do you guys think about V/M skating last? Do you think it's beneficial for them? I've always thought that they preferred to go first and lay it down rather than skating after a team that does brilliantly well. I also have nightmares of worlds last year when they skated last. Crossing all my fingers and praying they have a clean skate tonight. I really want to see them skate that MR program to their fullest potential.

 

[snippy]

So what do you guys think about V/M skating last? Do you think it's beneficial for them? I've always thought that they preferred to go first and lay it down rather than skating after a team that does brilliantly well. I also have nightmares of worlds last year when they skated last. Crossing all my fingers and praying they have a clean skate tonight. I really want to see them skate that MR program to their fullest potential.

I was actually just thinking of this. I wonder how much room is going to be left for them skating last. If the French team skates clean perfectly and sets the record, they are going to have to be exceptional. I don’t think their free dance is better than the French but the ice is slippery

 

[carpis]

So what do you guys think about V/M skating last? Do you think it's beneficial for them? I've always thought that they preferred to go first and lay it down rather than skating after a team that does brilliantly well. I also have nightmares of worlds last year when they skated last. Crossing all my fingers and praying they have a clean skate tonight. I really want to see them skate that MR program to their fullest potential.

I'm actually happy about the draw, I think skating last gives you the opportunity to really create the olympic moment and be even more emotional, and as you saw for the SD the Korean crowd is really behind them more then any other top team. Also they're not skating after PC but HD (great team but not gold contenders) and last year they skated second to last at worlds

 

[snippy]

I'm actually happy about the draw, I think skating last gives you the opportunity to really creating the olympic moment and being even more emotional, and as you saw for the SD the Korean crowd is really behind them more then any other top team. Also they're not skating after PC but HD (great team but not gold contenders) and last year they skated second to last at worlds

I think that that buffer of a team in between them will be helpful. I mean for the fans who may go into cardiac arrest tonight

 

[Shayii]

I’m just so livid guys more because there’s nothing we can do. The Sharon Rogers will never be replaced, but continue their shameful work. I’m trying to be calm and channel positive energy for tonight.

Anyway did you guys see this https://team-mapleleaf.tumblr.com/post/171040185170/tessa-virtue-scott-moir-get-in-the-zone-before what is Patrice spraying on them lol

 

[snippy]

I’m just so livid guys more because there’s nothing we can do. The Sharon Rogers will never be replaced, but continue their shameful work. I’m trying to be calm and channel positive energy for tonight.

Anyway did you guys see this https://team-mapleleaf.tumblr.com/post/171040185170/tessa-virtue-scott-moir-get-in-the-zone-before what is Patrice spraying on them lol

The blood of their enemies?

 

[Steph]

Anyone else notice how the audience reaction was very muted for everyone but V&M..I found it interesting how the audience even seemed to know..is this a comp? Really? lol

Sigh. Virtue and Moir are big in Korea and they skated lights out. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[snippy]

Sigh. Virtue and Moir are big in Korea and they skated lights out. Nothing more, nothing less.

Canada almost always gets big cheers everywhere

 

[LisaLemon]

Don’t count on it. The judges will shower P/C with +3s and tons of 10.00s. If they got that many 10.00s in a SD that flawed in a few spots and lacklustre, imagine how many they’ll get in the FD.

I rewatched V/M from the CBC coverage and noticed at the end when they showed the audience. You could see Lambiel standing and clapping for them and right in front of him was Zoueva who was not clapping and looking very unimpressed.

Well we shall see..still don't see how they can not give them the title if they skate a perfect program with no issues & add to that they skate last?
They will have created a moment with how big & sweeping their final lift is..I am sure the audience will prove who the winners should be!

 

[snippy]

Well we shall see..still don't see how they can not give them the title if they skate a perfect program with no issues & add to that they skate last?
They will have created a moment with how big & sweeping their final lift is..I am sure the audience will prove who the winners should be!

Because it’s not up to the same difficulty of P/C

 

[LisaLemon]

Well we shall see..still don't see how they can not give them the title if they skate a perfect program with no issues & add to that they skate last?
They will have created a moment with how big & sweeping their final lift is..I am sure the audience will prove who the winners should be!

Also if P&C have a good clean skate they can't..with the leaders still to come..give P&C a WR score, they can't put them so far ahead V&M have no chance even before the skate..if they do that it will look way too obvious..

 

[LisaLemon]

Because it’s not up to the same difficulty of P/C

Lmao say what? V&M program is MORE difficult..

 

[Golden1]

Tessa and Scott talking about my favorite moment in Sochi http://mysticseasons.tumblr.com/post/171062341804/teamcanada-tessa-virtue-and-scott-moir-didnt

Because it’s not up to the same difficulty of P/C

lol This is funny .

 

[snippy]

Also if P&C have a good clean skate they can't..with the leaders still to come..give P&C a WR score, they can't put them so far ahead V&M have no chance even before the skate..if they do that it will look way too obvious..

Oh but can’t they? I guess were the hypocrisy comes in. We here so often his fans that we want to see clean, accurate judging. If they bring the skate of their lives, why don’t they deserve record-setting marks? I would think his fans of V/M we would expect the same thing for them

 

[Steph]

I have compiled a tweets comparing a few of the elements. I’m trying to stay objective as possible but you be the judge.

https://twitter.com/stethoscope131/status/965655377911209986

Re: the twizzles, I don't think Gabi did an extra rotation -- I think that she was really behind and came out a lot later, so it looked like an extra rotation. Regardless, that's not a +3 GOE, no.