whiteskates
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Perfect music for them! Great for a lyrical skater like Aljona.
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I completely agree, I was fairly convinced they'll go for the quad twist this season but no luck yet. Maybe later on? Their twist is one of the best if not the best, though they tend to lose a level on it, not sure why...Did they ever mention why they didn't want to try a quad twist? If any team in the world has the power and the room to complete one, it's them. But they seem fixated the the 3A.
I like it but I dont love it yet. Bruno is too bland for this program. But it's got some great touches.Aljona and Bruno new SP is to die for! They have the hardest SP of the season so far and when they'll nail it, it will be glorious. And that lift entry and attention to details - this is what pair skating should be about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4hp4RHtBjk
Did they ever mention why they didn't want to try a quad twist? If any team in the world has the power and the room to complete one, it's them. But they seem fixated the the 3A.
They had lost levels because of the easy entry and weak split position last year. But I am not sure why they lost a level this time.I completely agree, I was fairly convinced they'll go for the quad twist this season but no luck yet. Maybe later on? Their twist is one of the best if not the best, though they tend to lose a level on it, not sure why...
SHE is fixated on the throw e triple axelDid they ever mention why they didn't want to try a quad twist? If any team in the world has the power and the room to complete one, it's them. But they seem fixated the the 3A.
I think they do but who am I to judgeDo they have the best Twyst lift of all time?
I'm loving the details in the choreography. They need a little more speed, especially in the lift. I'm also frustrated about the 3axel. I can understand training it and wanting it in the program - but why not do a throw 3flip a few times, just to see how it scores and have it as an option?
But they know Sui/Han have 4Tw. Duhamel/Radford the sbs lutzes and possibly a 4Thr. James/Cipres the 4Thr Sal. These things must play into it. But still, I agree, try the 3Thr and see what a clean skate scores.Yeah, I agree they should try to do that. Not sure Aliona will ever be able to land the 3A throw with the height and the length of that jump. Wonder what their success rate is in training. If it's low, they are just gambling with it and the risk of injury is high. They gave me quite a scare in the SP earlier.![]()
90% according to their coach which is why they keep it. The problem is if the 10% failure occurs during a comp. I wish they'd drop it especially since Duhamel/Radford have dropped theirs. I agree that the problem is the height she has on the jump. It makes it so difficult to land on two feet much less one. I think this is also why they don't get level 4s on the twist. It's so high that I think they get antsy waiting for her to come down safely. I'm hoping they see how the other teams are doing and adjust accordingly. They know what Tar/Mor, Duh/Rad and James/Cipres have. They just need to do the math and pick the best course to an OGM. Or I'll be a nervous wreck by February and will be watching through my fingers like I used to do for Kwan.Yeah, I agree they should try to do that. Not sure Aliona will ever be able to land the 3A throw with the height and the length of that jump. Wonder what their success rate is in training. If it's low, they are just gambling with it and the risk of injury is high. They gave me quite a scare in the SP earlier.![]()
Do we know who did the short? Was this Dean’s work? Doesn’t look like it but if so, it’s the best I’ve seen.
LOVE the SP!!! As for the 3A throw - they can never land clean throws because they are so huge, so if they are messing up - they might as well mess up on the 3A.
German authorities need to give him citizenship!!!!! NOW!!!!
It is not allowed to do a quad in the SP. S/H and J/C show their quads in the FP.But they know Sui/Han have 4Tw. Duhamel/Radford the sbs lutzes and possibly a 4Thr. James/Cipres the 4Thr Sal. These things must play into it. But still, I agree, try the 3Thr and see what a clean skate scores.
I also need to rewatch but...I think the issue on the twist is that she makes contact with him on the way down. The man is to catch the girl at the waist and set her down. This should be the only contact on the dismount. This is why often the lady has her arms stretched upwards; so as to avoid that particular contact.
Yep. I know from my own experience that the sink-or-swin method is very effective when it comes to language learning. If people around you can't or won't speak neither in your language nor in English and you just have to wreck your brain trying to communicate with them, YOU LEARN. QUICK.There is only one cure to that: strictly German – best a sign on his back: Talk to me, in German only. And only German on his Insta or FB or elsewhere, e-mails ...
Understood, but they did a fantastic transition into the Tw.....I think the issue is the catch was not quite clean. Beautiful program regardless.I also need to rewatch but...
I think their twist yesterday was "only" level 3 because in pairs, the callers seem to be much, much stricter about footwork immediately preceding the twist compared to e.g. what happens the singles with the footwork heading straight into jump thing in SP (where esp. top skaters might get away with a simple step/turn or two and then a looong pause before the take-off). There only needs to be a relatively short pause between the steps (and/or small lift) and the launching into air and POOF! there went one of the Tw levels. I also think this was what happened to Aljona & Bruno several times during last season.
So, I think they might've gotten credit for 1) her split 2) his hands down 3) clean catch but not for 4) preceding steps.
What I was trying to get across is that no matter how fantastic the preceding transition was into the Tw, if she spends a tiny little bit too much time in the lutz/flip take-off position before actually taking off, the callers can interpret that as not fulfilling the requirements for immediate steps before the element.Understood, but they did a fantastic transition into the Tw.....I think the issue is the catch was not quite clean. Beautiful program regardless.![]()
This is an amazing SP! Just gorgeous choreo. I think the issue on the twist is that she makes contact with him on the way down. The man is to catch the girl at the waist and set her down. This should be the only contact on the dismount. This is why often the lady has her arms stretched upwards; so as to avoid that particular contact.
If there really was body contact it would be a level issue (as well as a GOE issue if the contact was obvious/crashy). Again, gotta rewatch but I watching it yesterday the catch looked clean to me.I don't think it's a contact issue - Bruno always catches her on the waist and she never hits his body on the way down. And if she did I think that would be a GOE issue rather than a level issue.