2023 Nepela Trophy - Ice Dance RD & FD

[airgelaal]

F/G in danger

 

[Karen-W]

God, I HATE this shadow-boxing character step sequence. I hate all the shadow boxing, TBH.

 

[Karen-W]

F/G in danger

Not hardly. Too big of a lead from the RD, lol!

 

[Rukia]

I'm out of town and have been unable to watch but literally i love ice dance so much other disciplines may try but they will never reach this level of drama

 

[PRlady]

I think that program is very well done. And not just cos I come from the place with the Rocky statue on the Art Museum steps.

 

[jlai]

Today is not a good twizzle day or something?

 

[Belsornia]

Fear/Gibson - I was just thinking that Lilah’s twizzles were less tight than usual and then she put her foot down. The programme is looking better than a month ago and there are lots of small changes which have helped but it’s still really open and IMO their weakest FD since You Raise Me Up.

 

[Holy Headband]

I'm out of town and have been unable to watch but literally i love ice dance so much other disciplines may try but they will never reach this level of drama

This is true, but once upon a time we had both judging drama AND actually good teams at the top of the standings.

 

[Marta24]

TES barely above Taschlers

 

[Karen-W]

Fear/Gibson GBR 200.46 (64.07 TES + 54.70 PCS = 118.77)
Davis/Smolkin GEO 188.94 (61.42 TES + 50.90 PCS - 1.00 DED = 111.32)
Taschlerova/Taschler CZE 187.34 (64.00 TES + 49.00 PCS = 113.00)
Zingas/Kolesnik USA 187.28 (61.07 TES + 50.60 PCS = 111.67)
Lajoie/Lagha CAN 179.18 (60.48 TES + 48.70 PCS = 109.18)
Orihara/Pirinen FIN 171.53 (60.81 TES + 46.10 PCS - 1.00 DED = 105.91)
Bashynska/Beaumont CAN 164.81 (52.56 TES + 45.00 PCS = 97.56)
Bekker/Hernandez GBR 162.22 (53.62 TES + 44.70 PCS = 98.32)
Holubtsova/Bielobrov UKR 161.71 (54.55 TES + 43.60 PCS = 98.15)
Simova/Aksenov SVK 151.58 (51.14 TES + 40.80 PCS = 91.94)
Matthaei/Liebers GER 145.76 (48.61 TES + 40.40 PCS = 88.01)
Pucherova/Lysak SVK 145.67 (48.39 TES + 39.90 PCS = 88.29)
Val/Kazimov ESP 143.88 (50.52 TES + 39.40 PCS = 86.92 FS)
Ramanauskaite/Kizala LTU 134.16 (45.56 TES +36.30 PCS = 81.86)
Shilling/Baeten BEL 130.11 (45.37 TES + 32.90 PCS = 78.27)
Oliver/Bojanowski POL 128.78 (43.71 TES + 34.30 PCS = 77.01)

 

[Rukia]

This is true, but once upon a time we had both judging drama AND actually good teams at the top of the standings.

I've just accepted that skating skills are not as important in the one discipline they should be the most important oops

 

[Wyliefan]

The Taschlers and Zingas/Kolesnik ought to protest. Are there enough Czechs and Americans over there to get up a good riot?

 

[Marta24]

Well, the fight for Euros Bronze is going to be interesting. R/A, D/S, Taschlers, T/V, L/B ...Did I forget somebody?

 

[airgelaal]

To be honest, D/S would have won without the fall.

 

[Hedwig]

To be honest, D/S would have won without the fall.

perish the thought

So I must say, that I am less emotionally against them than other "Georgian" still training in Russia or calling themselves "Russian girl" - at least Gleb seems like a very decent human in several aspects, including protesting openly against the war which is not something I see a lot of Russians doing regardless of where they live.

 

[Karen-W]

perish the thought

So I must say, that I am less emotionally against them than other "Georgian" still training in Russia or calling themselves "Russian girl" - at least Gleb seems like a very decent human in several aspects, including protesting openly against the war which is not something I see a lot of Russians doing regardless of where they live.

Yeah, plus, Diana's mom is at least half-Georgian, so it isn't as though they lack any ties to the country.

And, while it will suck for KazRev to miss out on Worlds this year, they'll still go to Euros and, chances are, with the way things are shaping up, get back to Worlds in 2025.

 

[Wyliefan]

perish the thought

So I must say, that I am less emotionally against them than other "Georgian" still training in Russia or calling themselves "Russian girl" - at least Gleb seems like a very decent human in several aspects, including protesting openly against the war which is not something I see a lot of Russians doing regardless of where they live.

Good for him. Doesn't make their results any less disgusting.

 

[marbri]

perish the thought

So I must say, that I am less emotionally against them than other "Georgian" still training in Russia or calling themselves "Russian girl" - at least Gleb seems like a very decent human in several aspects, including protesting openly against the war which is not something I see a lot of Russians doing regardless of where they live.

Is this about their joint "no war" world in palm of hands instagram from almost 2 years ago or has he/they done more since?

 

[Hedwig]

Is this about their joint "no war" world in palm of hands instagram from almost 2 years ago or has he/they done more since?

No idea. I dont follow them. If they didnt it is still much more than 99% of Russians are doing right now. Which isnt really a compliment to them but rather a snark in the other direction but still better than going to a Putin ralley with a Z on your stomach.
My standards are not very high if it comes to protests from Russians, I admit. Happy for the smallest sign.

 

[Karen-W]

No idea. I dont follow them. If they didnt it is still much more than 99% of Russians are doing right now. Which isnt really a compliment to them but rather a snark in the other direction but still better than going to a Putin ralley with a Z on your stomach.
My standards are not very high if it comes to protests from Russians, I admit. Happy for the smallest sign.

I haven't seen anything else from either in the last 18 months, though the fact that they have NOT returned to Russia and switched countries is probably the most that we can expect or hope from them as long as things are the way they are in Russia.

 

[PRlady]

I haven't seen anything else from either in the last 18 months, though the fact that they have NOT returned to Russia and switched countries is probably the most that we can expect or hope from them as long as things are the way they are in Russia.

He also got his Green Card so they may be planning to stay in the Us long-term.

 

[marbri]

No idea. I dont follow them. If they didnt it is still much more than 99% of Russians are doing right now. Which isnt really a compliment to them but rather a snark in the other direction but still better than going to a Putin ralley with a Z on your stomach.
My standards are not very high if it comes to protests from Russians, I admit. Happy for the smallest sign.

Well I asked because you said he protested openly against the war
That post was made about 3 days after the invasion. I haven't seen anything since and they must be good with the RUS fed to get that release when others tried and failed. So was there nothing after that 3 days because it didn't serve them well to be vocal?

Just asking because I see it often about how brave and admirable they are because they "protested" and all I see is that one instagram posts. And if that is all there is then people have really low bars for these things.

 

[Karen-W]

Oh, give it a rest. They both still have family in Russia and they didn't get their release until 4 months ago. They surely had to play nice and keep quiet for the sake of that release at the minimum.

 

[Hedwig]

Well I asked because you said he protested openly against the war
That post was made about 3 days after the invasion. I haven't seen anything since and they must be good with the RUS fed to get that release when others tried and failed. So was there nothing after that 3 days because it didn't serve them well to be vocal?

Just asking because I see it often about how brave and admirable they are because they "protested" and all I see is that one instagram posts. And if that is all there is then people have really low bars for these things.

yes, I agree - that is what I wrote as well. I think that is already more than 99% of the Russians did so I do think that goes into their favor opposed to other skaters who are openly supporting the regime.
Like I said, I do not follow them so no idea if anything more was done but I did indeed mean this tiny protest, yes.
and I liked how he protected Diana from Brennan, so there is that as well.

For skaters like Gubanova or Metelkina/Berulava, I am not even watching them anymore

 

[Rukia]

So I just watched Davis/Smolkin and like this program has it all- faux tutu, Russian skaters who are trying to do ballet, a fall, skaters who appear to avoid edges with is honestly so relatable, sexy wall grabbing + seductive swanning, face stroking, nonsense choreography, and music edits that sound like record skips! Icons only.

 

[marbri]

Oh, give it a rest. They both still have family in Russia and they didn't get their release until 4 months ago. They surely had to play nice and keep quiet for the sake of that release at the minimum.

I don't need to give anything a rest. I rarely talk about this. Just trying to get some sense of logic and reality around this myth that has developed around this couple.

 

[Sylvia]

FD protocols: http://www.kraso.sk/wp-content/uplo...------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

Pl.	Name	Nation	TSS =	TES +		PCS +	CO	PR	SK	Ded. -	StN.
1​	Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON	GBR	118.77​	64.07​		54.70​	9.00​	9.30​	9.05​	0.00​	#16​
2​	Natalie TASCHLEROVA / Filip TASCHLER	CZE	113.00​	64.00​		49.00​	7.95​	8.25​	8.30​	0.00​	#13​
3​	Emilea ZINGAS / Vadym KOLESNIK	USA	111.67​	61.07​		50.60​	8.50​	8.40​	8.40​	0.00​	#14​
4​	Diana DAVIS / Gleb SMOLKIN	GEO	111.32​	61.42​		50.90​	8.55​	8.55​	8.35​	1.00​	#15​
5​	Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA	CAN	109.18​	60.48​		48.70​	8.10​	8.10​	8.15​	0.00​	#12​
6​	Yuka ORIHARA / Juho PIRINEN	FIN	105.91​	60.81​		46.10​	7.75​	7.75​	7.55​	1.00​	#10​
7​	Phebe BEKKER / James HERNANDEZ	GBR	98.32​	53.62​		44.70​	7.50​	7.55​	7.30​	0.00​	#9​
8​	Mariia HOLUBTSOVA / Kyryl BIELOBROV	UKR	98.15​	54.55​		43.60​	7.40​	7.15​	7.25​	0.00​	#8​
9​	Nadiia BASHYNSKA / Peter BEAUMONT	CAN	97.56​	52.56​		45.00​	7.50​	7.65​	7.35​	0.00​	#11​
10​	Anna SIMOVA / Kirill AKSENOV	SVK	91.94​	51.14​		40.80​	6.75​	6.90​	6.75​	0.00​	#7​
11​	Maria Sofia PUCHEROVA / Nikita LYSAK	SVK	88.29​	48.39​		39.90​	6.65​	6.75​	6.55​	0.00​	#5​
12​	Charise MATTHAEI / Max LIEBERS	GER	88.01​	48.61​		40.40​	6.90​	6.60​	6.70​	1.00​	#6​
13​	Sofia VAL / Asaf KAZIMOV	ESP	86.92​	50.52​		39.40​	6.65​	6.55​	6.50​	3.00​	#4​
14​	Paulina RAMANAUSKAITE / Deividas KIZALA	LTU	81.86​	45.56​		36.30​	6.10​	6.00​	6.05​	0.00​	#3​
15​	Olivia Josephine SHILLING / Leo BAETEN	BEL	78.27​	45.37​		32.90​	5.55​	5.50​	5.40​	0.00​	#2​
16​	Olivia OLIVER / Filip BOJANOWSKI	POL	77.01​	43.71​		34.30​	5.75​	5.65​	5.75​	1.00​	#1​

Ice Dance
Result
FPl. Name Nation Points RD FD
1 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR 200.46 1 1
2 Diana DAVIS / Gleb SMOLKIN GEO 188.94 2 4
3 Natalie TASCHLEROVA / Filip TASCHLER CZE 187.34 4 2
4 Emilea ZINGAS / Vadym KOLESNIK USA 187.28 3 3
5 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN 179.18 5 5
6 Yuka ORIHARA / Juho PIRINEN FIN 171.53 7 6
7 Nadiia BASHYNSKA / Peter BEAUMONT CAN 164.81 6 9
8 Phebe BEKKER / James HERNANDEZ GBR 162.22 8 7
9 Mariia HOLUBTSOVA / Kyryl BIELOBROV UKR 161.71 9 8
10 Anna SIMOVA / Kirill AKSENOV SVK 151.58 10 10
11 Charise MATTHAEI / Max LIEBERS GER 145.76 11 12
12 Maria Sofia PUCHEROVA / Nikita LYSAK SVK 145.67 12 11
13 Sofia VAL / Asaf KAZIMOV ESP 143.88 13 13
14 Paulina RAMANAUSKAITE / Deividas KIZALA LTU 134.16 14 14
15 Olivia Josephine SHILLING / Leo BAETEN BEL 130.11 15 15
16 Olivia OLIVER / Filip BOJANOWSKI POL 128.78 16 16

 

[Wyliefan]

I'm catching up on the RDs I missed. Vadym's "Yeah, that's OK, we'll take it" face at the scores slays me.