TRAVEL: New TSA US Aviation security measures. Inbnd flts. 10-26-17

I flew Delta from Prague to JFK last week and they did short security interviews when we were checking in.

The biggest delay was going through security at the gate, because they had exactly ONE metal detector open. I don't mind extra security measures, but airlines/airports need to staff properly. I was in an early part of the line and by the time I finally got through, they were on "last call" for boarding with the plane mostly empty :rolleyes:
 
^Yeah, I'm a bit confused to. Ever since I can remember, they've already asked all these security questions, who packed the bags, where were they, what electronic devices are you carrying, who do they belong to, have you accepted any gifts etc. I find it a bit ridiculous because if I plan to do something I won't tell them and unless I plan to blow up the plane, I don't think it matters which electronic devices I carry. (And if I plan to blow it up, why does it only matter on inbound flights?)
 
ballettmaus said:
^Yeah, I'm a bit confused to. Ever since I can remember, they've already asked all these security questions, who packed the bags, where were they, what electronic devices are you carrying, who do they belong to, have you accepted any gifts etc. I find it a bit ridiculous because if I plan to do something I won't tell them and unless I plan to blow up the plane, I don't think it matters which electronic devices I carry. (And if I plan to blow it up, why does it only matter on inbound flights?)
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A little history is helpful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindawi_affair
 
Vagabond said:
A little history is helpful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindawi_affair
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So, knowing that it would probably mean an extra search and extra scrutiny, would you really tell the airline that you're carrying something on your suitcase from a person that you trust/a family member? If you have no reason to suspect someone, why would you think that what they put in your suitcase is harmful? Not to mention that that person could put it into your suitcase without your knowledge if you live together.
 
 
ballettmaus said:
So, knowing that it would probably mean an extra search and extra scrutiny, would you really tell the airline that you're carrying something on your suitcase from a person that you trust/a family member?
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Lying to a U.S. customs or immigration official is a crime and, for a foreigner, can potentially lead to lifetime exclusion from the United States. I suspect that, given the circumstances, the same might be true of lying to an airline employee asking similar questions pursuant to U.S. law

Knowing those risks, who would lie?
 
allezfred said:
Would love to see the numbers on inbound tourism to the U.S. for the past year.....
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International Tourism to the US Declined in Early 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/travel/tourism-united-states-international-decline.html

“The number of international travelers to the U.S. has dramatically declined in the wake of Donald Trump’s presidency, according to a revised report by the U.S. Travel Association.”
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/...ew-report-confirms-predicted-trump-slump.html
 
WildRose said:
International Tourism to the US Declined in Early 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/travel/tourism-united-states-international-decline.html

“The number of international travelers to the U.S. has dramatically declined in the wake of Donald Trump’s presidency, according to a revised report by the U.S. Travel Association.”
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/...ew-report-confirms-predicted-trump-slump.html
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That's old news..... Here is recent from CBS... :D
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-slump-for-foreign-tourism-not-yet/

Last winter, the U.S. tourism industry fretted that Trump administration policies might lead to a "Trump slump" in travel. But those fears may have been premature. International arrivals and travel-related spending are up in 2017 compared with the same period in 2016.

Latest numbers from the U.S. Travel Association's Travel Trends Index showed 6.6 percent growth in international travel to the U.S. in April and 5 percent growth in May compared with the same months last year. The Travel Trends Index uses hotel, airline and U.S. government data.

(not to mention that domestic tourism is up, since Americans are more reluctant to travel to Europe due to various reasons).
 
Tinami Amori said:
That's old news..... Here is recent from CBS... :D
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-slump-for-foreign-tourism-not-yet/

Last winter, the U.S. tourism industry fretted that Trump administration policies might lead to a "Trump slump" in travel. But those fears may have been premature. International arrivals and travel-related spending are up in 2017 compared with the same period in 2016.

Latest numbers from the U.S. Travel Association's Travel Trends Index showed 6.6 percent growth in international travel to the U.S. in April and 5 percent growth in May compared with the same months last year. The Travel Trends Index uses hotel, airline and U.S. government data.

(not to mention that domestic tourism is up, since Americans are more reluctant to travel to Europe due to various reasons).
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The FOX News report from September that I posted says those figures were revised:

“The previous report from early July claimed there had been 13 straight months of year-over-year growth. However, upon revised analysis, the new report shows a dip in four of the seven months evaluated thus far, with the steepest decline in February (down 6.8 percent) and March (down 8.2 percent).”
 
WildRose said:
The FOX News report from September that I posted says those figures were revised:

“The previous report from early July claimed there had been 13 straight months of year-over-year growth. However, upon revised analysis, the new report shows a dip in four of the seven months evaluated thus far, with the steepest decline in February (down 6.8 percent) and March (down 8.2 percent).”
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The article you posted from Fox, relies on many sources which are also predictions, one source with such data has been removed "Travel Trends Index".
https://www.ustravel.org/system/files/media_root/Travel_Trends_Jul_2017.pdf

The article you posted also refs to sources from publications with "left lean" (even if the article is on FOX). At the same time when positive predictions where made (in CBS article for example), the "left" publications where predicting "slump". It was partisan and subjective.

There is a lot to consider in flow of tourists into USA, including dollar rate on the global market, Brexit effect (temporary), economies of other countries, etc. It's very easy to call it "Trump slump" but reality is different.

So far there are only actual figures accounted for the first 2 quarters (winter down/people travel less and spring/travel picks up is into a plus).
3rd and 4th quarters are not in the official statistics yet, but they show + unofficially so far.
http://tinet.ita.doc.gov/view/m-2017-I-001/table1.asp

Tourisn into USA from countries with strong economies continues to increase.
http://www.traveller.com.au/why-australia-is-bucking-the-trump-slump-trend-gz3027

As well, US citizens are travelling abroad less and spending money domestically.... fear of terrorism in Europe, crime wave in Mexico, etc....
so US Tourism is just fine. :lol:
 
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