The Skating Session - A New Show

[Laura4]

I am completely ok with 2 hours and some minutes. Gets me through four drives to and from work. Thanks!

Same here! I love to listen to the show while working on my sewing projects.

Can’t wait for the next show - NHK and the return of the Shib Sibs!

 

[thvu]

The Skating Session - S2E10 - Grand Prix #4 - NHK Trophy Competition Review​

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We tried to make the ep a little shorter, but then we talked about Ice Dance for an hour.

 

[Marta24]

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We tried to make the ep a little shorter, but then we talked about Ice Dance for an hour.

Great for me then. I love deep dives into ice dance

 

[coralline]

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We tried to make the ep a little shorter, but then we talked about Ice Dance for an hour.

How can anyone not talk about Ice dance for an hour!

 

[jägerbomb]

I like the longer episodes! Perfect to listen to while working or exercising.

 

[skatfan]

I guess I'm a glutton for punishment, because I enjoyed the whole hour on Ice Dance. You two are getting your rhythm down in these latest episodes, which is impressive because you aren't getting much sleep!

 

[coralline]

Hi Tomas and Tony, may I ask from your professional perspective, why was Caroline Green´s TW downgraded to Level 2?

 

[thvu]

Hi Tomas and Tony, may I ask from your professional perspective, why was Caroline Green´s TW downgraded to Level 2?

In the 2nd set of twizzles, Green has two errors, each resulting in a loss of level:

• She turns the last half of the rotation into a pirouette, which results in the loss of 1 level.
• She loses balance on that same twizzle at the end which causes her foot coming down to regain balance, resulting in the loss of 1 level. (Compare it to Parsons, whose free leg is extended out at the end of this set.)

So, even though she completes the necessary 4 rotations for Level 4 in the 2nd set before these errors, it doesn't matter, the level drops still apply. (This 2nd set is 4.5 rotations, entering forward and exiting backward, with these errors occurring in the last half rotation.)

A team could do 8 rotations in a set, and if these errors were to occur at the end of that set, the level drops would still apply. The rules aren't setup to give "forgiveness" to skaters for errors that occur outside of the required rotations for levels, which I agree with. It prevents teams from building in "fail safes" in elements by doing extra rotations.

 

[coralline]

In the 2nd set of twizzles, Green has two errors, each resulting in a loss of level:

• She turns the last half of the rotation into a pirouette, which results in the loss of 1 level.
• She loses balance on that same twizzle at the end which causes her foot coming down to regain balance, resulting in the loss of 1 level. (Compare it to Parsons, whose free leg is extended out at the end of this set.)

So, even though she completes the necessary 4 rotations for Level 4 in the 2nd set before these errors, it doesn't matter, the level drops still apply. (This 2nd set is 4.5 rotations, entering forward and exiting backward, with these errors occurring in the last half rotation.)

A team could do 8 rotations in a set, and if these errors were to occur at the end of that set, the level drops would still apply. The rules aren't setup to give "forgiveness" to skaters for errors that occur outside of the required rotations for levels, which I agree with. It prevents teams from building in "fail safes" in elements by doing extra rotations.

Thank you so much for the explaination!

 

[Marta24]

On fsreddit people mentioned that retrogressions may cause the problems in the step sequences for the dance teams. There was an update back in August of Communication 2704, where the IDTC clarified that difficult turns are not counted anymore for levels if they are executed during a retrogression.

If possible, could you maybe explain this a bit more in your next podcast?

 

[thvu]

@Marta24 We had a bit of a time crunch today while recording as @tony had to catch his flight out, but we can during the next ep! Maybe we’ll add a segment like this, going over one question each ep on dance calls or rules. And maybe a full Q&A ep later.

 

[thvu]

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[Laura4]

Thanks guys! It was so interesting to hear Tony’s experience as a spectator at this event! And I am so glad I’m not the only one who was unimpressed with Gabrielle Papadakis’s commentary. In fact I found it downright annoying.

 

[~tapdancer~]

Thanks guys! It was so interesting to hear Tony’s experience as a spectator at this event! And I am so glad I’m not the only one who was unimpressed with Gabrielle Papadakis’s commentary. In fact I found it downright annoying.

NBC better rethink their commentators. I like Terry G, always have but Johnny, Tara, and Gabby have to go! I have been reading some really negative feedback on TwitterX. Johnny went too far.
Really enjoyed the podcast! I subscribed. Amazing how much I appreciated their analysis of stuff. In total agreement about C/B.