The 5 stages of grieving regarding “Women’s” skating

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  • A tongue in cheek vent...keep in mind I think Valieva is terrific, actually really enjoyed Khromykh's FP at Rostelecom, love Kostornaia, am entertained by The Empress, and respect Scherbakova...

  • Denial:
  • -the Japanese, Alyssa, Loena, and You can beat the Russians depending on whoever skates clean
  • -great PCS and backloading by non-Russians can overcome the deficit in points gotten from quads performed by Russians

  • Anger
  • -!@#$ ruthless Eteri!
  • -!@#$ Danny G choreo!
  • -!@#$ lack of ruthless horsetrading by USFSA!
  • -!@#$ over-valuing of quads per the rules, and under-valuing of non-quad PCS!

  • Bargaining:
  • Skategods:
  • -let Loena, the Japanese, You, and Alyssa skate squeaky clean and have 3 Russians make major errors at the Olympics so a non-Russian could actually medal there
  • Failing that…
  • -let the 3 Russians who do medal at the Olys all retire before worlds so other countries have a shot at one medal

  • Depression:
  • -mature artistic balanced womens skating, with rare exceptions (Lipnitskaya, Kostornaia, Valieva), is gone forever
  • -no other country will ever catch up because no other country values sacrifice for medals at any cost as much as Russians do
  • -no senior lady who medals at Worlds or Olys will have a career of more than 2 years
  • -countries will get so discouraged that womens skating will wither more than it already has internationally (excepting Japan, Russia, and Korea)

  • Acceptance
  • -enjoy the quads and periodic good presentation for what they are
  • -accept the 2-year senior career trajectory
  • -get my fix for good all-around skating via non-medalists, or from dance
 
I thought of a possible silver lining when reading this post: since most 4-year skating fans haven’t seen women’s quads and multiple triple axel performances yet, maybe the rest of the word will become inspired by Valieva and the other Russian women and the sport’s popularity will increase. When Michael Jordan and other NBA players went to the Olympics as the ‘Dream Team,’ people across the world actually fell in love with basketball more, and other countries have since closed the gap with the United States and become much more competitive at basketball.
 
  • A tongue in cheek vent...keep in mind I think Valieva is terrific, actually really enjoyed Khromykh's FP at Rostelecom, love Kostornaia, am entertained by The Empress, and respect Scherbakova...

  • Denial:
  • -the Japanese, Alyssa, Loena, and You can beat the Russians depending on whoever skates clean
  • -great PCS and backloading by non-Russians can overcome the deficit in points gotten from quads performed by Russians

  • Anger
  • -!@#$ ruthless Eteri!
  • -!@#$ Danny G choreo!
  • -!@#$ lack of ruthless horsetrading by USFSA!
  • -!@#$ over-valuing of quads per the rules, and under-valuing of non-quad PCS!

  • Bargaining:
  • Skategods:
  • -let Loena, the Japanese, You, and Alyssa skate squeaky clean and have 3 Russians make major errors at the Olympics so a non-Russian could actually medal there
  • Failing that…
  • -let the 3 Russians who do medal at the Olys all retire before worlds so other countries have a shot at one medal

  • Depression:
  • -mature artistic balanced womens skating, with rare exceptions (Lipnitskaya, Kostornaia, Valieva), is gone forever
  • -no other country will ever catch up because no other country values sacrifice for medals at any cost as much as Russians do
  • -no senior lady who medals at Worlds or Olys will have a career of more than 2 years
  • -countries will get so discouraged that womens skating will wither more than it already has internationally (excepting Japan, Russia, and Korea)

  • Acceptance
  • -enjoy the quads and periodic good presentation for what they are
  • -accept the 2-year senior career trajectory
  • -get my fix for good all-around skating via non-medalists, or from dance
Nailed it. Except that mature artistic skating isn't gone - it just doesn't win many medals these days.
 
More on "acceptance"... I'll compare this to gymnastics, another judged sport with very young athletes. Up to the 1970s, US women seldom medaled internationally. Then Karolyi came to the US, with his training techniques and hard-driving attitude. US women began to medal frequently. The US was used to not medaling before, so maybe they were open to any new coaching style that would get them on the podium.

But skating...the US had decades of success under 6.0. They have never made the real mental switch to IJS and my theory is that's what's holding them back. US women/girls are willing to pound themselves and train many hours in gymnastics, and they get results. Is the same drive there in skating? Eteri-style drive? I'm not saying it's good to pound bodies, but it does earn medals.

The reality is, you can't win without at least one quad, unless you have a solid 3 axel, and 3Axel in combo, AND a skater with a quad falters. The points just aren't there. You have to have secure quads in place by age 15 or you'll age out - no post-pubescent woman can land quads consistently in competition. It's not just a US problem. No coach other than Eteri - not even any Russian coach - has skaters who have reached seniors with the ability to successfully land quads.

We may just be in the lull before more countries are able to create skaters who can land consistent quads by age 15-16. We may just need to accept that training involving many hours and intense competition from age 4-5, with the expectation of losing quads by the time they 'fill out,' is the new normal.

It's curious that gymnasts seem to have longer careers than quad-performing senior female skaters. Guess quads just are that difficult!
 
I say my “bargaining” stage is to have a 19 and above category for women. I think the Russians would dominate here as well as we would get to see these world medalists who have been surpassed by their young compatriots still competing for medals. Do I think it will happen? Naw…but these two and three year competitive Senior careers are ridiculous.
 
I expect compulsory figures to be reinstated at the next ISU Congress.

I assume I am classified to be in a stage of refined acceptance.

-BB
 
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