2nd worst Olympic figure skating decision ever

[laviemn]

I agree with this, too, even as a huge fan of P/B. I wish they hadn't been made to change coaches before the Olympics.

I've wondered why they didn't refuse to obey Didier's order. They were in a much more secure position to take a stand than Papadakis/Cizeron. Would Didier really have refused to send France's only World medalists from that quad to the Olympics? Or maybe he threatened to withhold funding.

 

[MAXSwagg]

Fair enough, crazy fan exhibit A below- MAXSwagg's response.

About Mao's crazy fans disappearing...they are still around too. "Yuna Kim slut" isn't over the top and nasty name-calling? I mean let's not sugarcoat it- it's definitely a Japanese vs Korean thing more than it is about the skaters.



I can't with this post. There is something wrong with you if you are implying he deserved the death threats.
And how can that have nothing to do with crazy fans when they are the ones sending the death threats??

Who said anything about death threats? Every skater has nut-job fans, including Kwan and her Kwaniacs.

 

[barbarafan]

Um, Denis Ten behaved VERY poorly and recklessly. It doesn’t matter who the skater was. And then Carroll pretty much said it wasn’t a big deal and possibly a set-up! That had nothing to do with fans and if you think reckless skating during practices isn’t dangerous there’s something wrong with you.

Amen

 

[barbarafan]

I've wondered why they didn't refuse to obey Didier's order. They were in a much more secure position to take a stand than Papadakis/Cizeron. Would Didier really have refused to send France's only World medalists from that quad to the Olympics? Or maybe he threatened to withhold funding.

At the time I remember reading they did what Didier insisted as he held the purse strings

 

[blue_idealist]

At the time I remember reading they did what Didier insisted as he held the purse strings

That's too bad. I thought they skated their best under Krylova/Camerlengo, even though Igor might have been considered a better coach by the French fed.

 

[laviemn]

At the time I remember reading they did what Didier insisted as he held the purse strings

Makes sense. I read he tried to pull some dirty tricks on P/C including diverting funds when they refused to go to Igor. My concern is that he'll make some irrational demand like another coaching switch if they don't win Olympic gold, just to display his power.

 

[berthesghost]

Every skater has nut-job fans.

wait: takeshi honda had crazed fans who spent all their time posting slo motion videos claiming that li chengjiang cheated his jumps? How did I miss all this!?

 

[barbarafan]

Makes sense. I read he tried to pull some dirty tricks on P/C including diverting funds when they refused to go to Igor. My concern is that he'll make some irrational demand like another coaching switch if they don't win Olympic gold, just to display his power.

He is despicable. The only thing that flashed through my min when I read this is "How old is he?"

 

[suki]

I agree ... Kerrigan was overrated looking back. Her 2nd mark (artistic impression) used to be overscored the most of them all. ''Pretty'' skater in terms of body positions / carriage but otherwise dull, kinda stiff and extremely predictable (often cheesy music /choreography).

Baiul even though so young in that time, skated with purpose, flair and musicality unlike Nancy.

She also skated a lot on two feet, had no combination, and did a lot of posing and preening as opposed to real skating, even her basic stroking was weak. Kerrigan might have been dull and stiff, but technically she was miles ahead of Baiul in the free skate. In fact, I would have put Baiul behind Chen Lu and perhaps Sato.

 

[Ohyes]

Tie between grishuk and platov and SLC pairs. S/P deserved silver not gold. Both G/P and S/P are some of the most overscored skaters I have ever seen.

 

[Ohyes]

It goes both ways. "Maotas" are just as crazy as "Yunabots". I find it really unfair that especially on this board, Yuna as a skater is always associated with her crazy fans when Mao's crazy fans are just as bad or even worse. But you hardly read anything about Mao's lunatic fans spamming Yuna's Instagram over and over with "Yuna Kim slut! Mao Asada legend!" It's the same with Hanyu's fans who are downright scary obsessed- I never read anyone calling his fans crazy on here either. Remember Denis Ten getting death threats? The double-standard is very strange- people on this board simply don't like Yuna because of her "Yunabots" but Mao's crazed fans are deemed okay/are ignored.

I feel so bad for Mao having those crazy far right japanese nationalist 50 plus year old basement dwelling men as "fans" when they use and care for her only because she is has defeated yuna at times and probably couldn't care less about her skating.

 

[Ohyes]

The craziest ubers I have seen hands down are the french P/C ubers on youtube that go by the names: Marie mogeneau, french fries, marika fasola and christian margeric. The amount of vile hatred they spew towards H/D, The shibs, V/M and other ice dance teams in the youtube comment section is so disgusting. They sound like deranged like they escaped from their halfway houses.

 

[laviemn]

The craziest ubers I have seen hands down are the french P/C ubers on youtube that go by the names: Marie mogeneau, french fries, marika fasola and christian margeric. The amount of vile hatred they spew towards H/D, The shibs, V/M and other ice dance teams in the youtube comment section is so disgusting. They sound like deranged like they escaped from their halfway houses.

I envy you your innocence. Between the fans that have written ethnic slurs, sent death threats, and tagged the actual skaters on social media to make sure they see how much an anonymous yahoo hates them, I wish those particular deplorables were worst I've seen from skating fans.

 

[Judy]

Fair enough, crazy fan exhibit A below- MAXSwagg's response.

About Mao's crazy fans disappearing...they are still around too. "Yuna Kim slut" isn't over the top and nasty name-calling? I mean let's not sugarcoat it- it's definitely a Japanese vs Korean thing more than it is about the skaters.



I can't with this post. There is something wrong with you if you are implying he deserved the death threats.
And how can that have nothing to do with crazy fans when they are the ones sending the death threats??

Anyone in any sport is just nuts for issuing death threats.

 

[shady82]

Of this list, I probably will have to say 2002 pairs, in recent history. Recently I rewatched both programs and I give Elena and Anton a slight edge. I enjoy both B/S and S/P a lot, and Jamie and David skated their long program to perfection. But the level of the two teams' programs was at different leagues. I watched Totmianina/Marinin's long program in Torino, and even that program doesn't compare to B/S's Meditation in terms of overall basic skating and quality of elements. It makes more sense to compare clean Sale/Pelletier with clean Shen/Zhao (without the quad) at SLC, because Love Story was not a difficult program. On top of this, Anton's mistake in the long was pretty minor.

Even with the 'biased' judging at the event, anyone who is not naive or delusional should know that there is shady business going on in almost every major skating event, it was just the huge media explosion that caused the final result of two sets of gold medals. I guess with the gifts David and Jamie were getting at 2001 Worlds, followed by 6.0s at the GPF for the long program and the fact that they are skating in North America, it totally makes sense why they would 'expect' to win with a clean long. Even if it still isn't a fair result. I don't have bitter feelings for either pair though.

My last comment is that as outstanding as Elena and Anton are as a pair, I believe that their lack of consistency dampens their all-time status somewhat.

 

[Ohyes]

I envy you your innocence. Between the fans that have written ethnic slurs, sent death threats, and tagged the actual skaters on social media to make sure they see how much an anonymous yahoo hates them, I wish those particular deplorables were worst I've seen from skating fans.

I'm not surprised since I have seen ethnic slurs thrown back and forth from xenophobic Yuna and mao bots. but I'm kind of surprised about the tagging and death threats. That is some next level stuff I could only imagine anti's of big singers/actors would do.

 

[sylvestercat]

I noticed Zayak and Chin were in the poll.

Zayak was definitely robbed in the SP finishing 6th. I think she should have been around Ivanova, either 3rd in front of Ivanova or 4th behind her in the SP. I would have been fine w/ either result, but definitely in front of Kondrashova and a flawed Sumners. But, she finished 4th in the LP which is where she should have.

I'm not sure where Chin was robbed: She was 2nd in the SP and 3rd in the LP. Maybe people believe she should have beaten Witt in the SP and Sumners in the LP? I think the argument would be stronger for the latter. Witt didn't make any mistakes in the SP while Sumners was less than stellar w/ her pops in the LP. Chin stepped out of the 3F and I wonder where she would have landed had she been clean.

Had Chin won the LP over Witt and Sumners she would have won the bronze over Ivanova. Add up the factored points and you will see.

I think had she landed the triple flip cleanly there is a very good shot she would have won the long program too to do this.