2023 Warsaw Cup - Men's FS

Sylvia · Nov 18, 2023

Time schedule by skater (first event on Saturday, Nov. 18 from 14:10-18:04 local/8:10 am-12:04 pm Eastern time) - edited in correct link: https://page.pfsa.com.pl/results/23...----------FNL-000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf

Starting order/Results (Sportity app has live scoring - password is CSPOL23): https://page.pfsa.com.pl/results/2324/CSPOL2023/SEG002.htm

Men - Free Skating Starting Order
StN. Name Nation Rank Points

Warm-Up Group 1
1 David GOUVEIA POR 25 43.04
2 Lev VINOKUR ISR 24 49.20
3 Noah BODENSTEIN SUI 23 53.01
4 Andrii KOKURA UKR 22 55.04
5 Filip SCERBA CZE 21 55.05

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Milosz WITKOWSKI POL 20 55.24
7 Pablo GARCIA ESP 19 57.87
8 Arttu JUUSOLA FIN 18 58.24
9 Matvii YEFYMENKO POL 17 59.59
10 Dias JIRENBAYEV KAZ 16 60.22

[15:33:20 - 15:48:20 local for Ice Resurfacing]

Warm-Up Group 3
11 Kyrylo MARSAK UKR 15 62.79
12 Kornel WITKOWSKI POL 14 64.51
13 Kai JAGODA GER 13 64.90
14 Adam HAGARA SVK 12 66.90
15 Xan ROLS FRA 11 68.14

Warm-Up Group 4 [ends at 16:42 local/10:42 am Eastern time]
16 Daniel MARTYNOV USA 10 68.32
17 Valtter VIRTANEN FIN 9 69.17
18 Samy HAMMI FRA 8 70.23
19 Maurizio ZANDRON AUT 7 70.25
20 Edward APPLEBY GBR 6 71.21

[17:21:40 - 17:36:40 Ice Resurfacing]

Warm-Up Group 5 [17:36:40 - 17:43:40 local/warm-up ends at 11:43 am ET]
21 Gabriel FOLKESSON SWE 5 78.44
22 Jason BROWN USA 4 78.48
23 Francois PITOT FRA 3 78.55
24 Mark GORODNITSKY ISR 2 82.06
25 Lukas BRITSCHGI SUI 1 91.51

Day 3 (Saturday) Livestream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG9hxJ4A2IU

maureenfarone · Nov 18, 2023

This is the time schedule for Men's FS which starts at 1400 local/8 a.m. EST on Saturday:

https://page.pfsa.com.pl/results/2324/CSPOL2023/FSKMSINGLES-----------FNL-000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf

The time schedule in Sylvia's post is from the Men's SP.

Belsornia · Nov 18, 2023

Less than a point short of the worlds minimum for Ed. :wall:

victorskid · Nov 18, 2023

After 4 of 5 groups

FS results:

1	Adam HAGARA	SVK	138.63	73.36	65.27	6.60	6.45	6.55	0.00	#14
2	Maurizio ZANDRON	AUT	137.34	67.08	71.26	7.25	7.15	7.00	1.00	#19
3	Samy HAMMI	FRA	137.19	65.92	71.27	7.05	7.15	7.20	0.00	#18
4	Edward APPLEBY	GBR	131.47	63.04	68.43	6.85	6.80	6.90	0.00	#20
5	Valtter VIRTANEN	FIN	131.38	58.95	72.43	7.30	7.20	7.25	0.00	#17
6	Kai JAGODA	GER	129.43	64.00	66.43	6.60	6.55	6.80	1.00	#13
7	Daniel MARTYNOV	USA	129.04	62.78	67.26	6.65	6.55	7.00	1.00	#16
8	Xan ROLS	FRA	128.90	61.47	68.43	6.90	6.85	6.80	1.00	#15
9	Kornel WITKOWSKI	POL	123.00	56.73	66.27	6.55	6.75	6.60	0.00	#12
10	Lev VINOKUR	ISR	121.65	67.71	54.94	5.40	5.55	5.55	1.00	#2
11	Kyrylo MARSAK	UKR	121.36	62.25	59.11	5.90	5.70	6.15	0.00	#11
12	Dias JIRENBAYEV	KAZ	119.96	56.69	63.27	6.35	6.40	6.25	0.00	#10
13	Matvii YEFYMENKO	POL	119.50	60.90	59.60	5.95	5.80	6.15	1.00	#9
14	Andrii KOKURA	UKR	107.29	50.85	56.44	5.65	5.75	5.55	0.00	#4
15	Pablo GARCIA	ESP	105.75	53.13	53.62	5.50	5.25	5.35	1.00	#7
16	Milosz WITKOWSKI	POL	103.76	47.65	59.11	6.00	6.05	5.70	3.00	#6
17	Arttu JUUSOLA	FIN	101.27	46.83	54.44	5.45	5.25	5.65	0.00	#8
18	Filip SCERBA	CZE	92.82	41.20	53.62	5.40	5.35	5.35	2.00	#5
19	Noah BODENSTEIN	SUI	92.05	40.93	52.12	5.25	5.05	5.35	1.00	#3
20	David GOUVEIA	POR	74.43	29.31	46.12	4.60	4.55	4.70	1.00	#1

Overall results:

1

Maurizio ZANDRON

AUT

207.59

7

2

Samy HAMMI

FRA

207.42

8

3

Adam HAGARA

SVK

205.53

12

1

4

Edward APPLEBY

GBR

202.68

6

4

5

Valtter VIRTANEN

FIN

200.55

9

5

6

Daniel MARTYNOV

USA

197.36

10

7

Xan ROLS

FRA

197.04

11

8

Kai JAGODA

GER

194.33

13

6

9

Kornel WITKOWSKI

POL

187.51

14

9

10

Kyrylo MARSAK

UKR

184.15

15

11

Dias JIRENBAYEV

KAZ

180.18

16

12

Matvii YEFYMENKO

POL

179.09

17

13

Lev VINOKUR

ISR

170.85

24

10

14

Pablo GARCIA

ESP

163.62

19

15

Andrii KOKURA

UKR

162.33

22

14

16

Arttu JUUSOLA

FIN

159.51

18

17

Milosz WITKOWSKI

POL

159.00

20

16

18

Filip SCERBA

CZE

147.87

21

18

19

Noah BODENSTEIN

SUI

145.06

23

19

20

David GOUVEIA

POR

117.47

25

20

Sylvia · Nov 18, 2023

Final group is warming up!

Aceon6 · Nov 18, 2023

Decent skate from Jason. The jumps aren’t where they need to be, but he’s got time before US Nats.

victorskid · Nov 18, 2023

The medalists
1 Lukas BRITSCHGI SUI
2 Mark GORODNITSKY ISR
3 Jason BROWN USA

Medal ceremony about to take place.

Lacey · Nov 18, 2023

victorskid said:
The medalists
1 Lukas BRITSCHGI SUI
2 Mark GORODNITSKY ISR
3 Jason BROWN USA

Medal ceremony about to take place.

Any more info about how Jason did?

skatingguy · Nov 18, 2023

Lacey said:
Any more info about how Jason did?

Protocols are posted.

https://page.pfsa.com.pl/results/2324/CSPOL2023/FSKMSINGLES-----------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

Lacey · Nov 18, 2023

skatingguy said:
Protocols are posted.

https://page.pfsa.com.pl/results/2324/CSPOL2023/FSKMSINGLES-----------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

Thanks for the link. I am having a really bad laptop day and didn't see the longs, but your link was not quite what I wanted since it is only long scores. So sorry to be so dumb numb, i meant what scores and finish number in short, long and then overall, it's not linking for me like it usually does. I think I did the math right below? Tell me if this is posted anywhere so I can make sure I am not making scores up, thanks.

Britschgi, SUI, was
1st in short w. 91.51, 3rd in long w. 154.71, & first overall w. 246.22

Gorodnitsky, ISR, was
2nd in short w. 82.06, 1st in long w. 161.23 & second overall w. 243.24

Brown, USA was
4th in short w. 78.48, 2nd in long w. 158.27 & third overall w. 236.75

And more importantly, what do we think of Jason's comp, was it ok or should he have done better here, certainly 2nd in long was good?

skatingguy · Nov 18, 2023

Lacey said:
Thanks for the link. I am having a really bad laptop day and didn't see the longs, but your link was not quite what I wanted since it is only long scores. So sorry to be so dumb numb, i meant what scores and finish number in short, long and then overall, it's not linking for me like it usually does. I think I did the math right below? Tell me if this is posted anywhere so I can make sure I am not making scores up, thanks.

Britschgi, SUI, was
1st in short w. 91.51, 3rd in long w. 154.71, & first overall w. 246.22

Gorodnitsky, ISR, was
2nd in short w. 82.06, 1st in long w. 161.23 & second overall w. 243.24

Brown, USA was
4th in short w. 78.48, 2nd in long w. 158.27 & third overall w. 236.75

And more importantly, what do we think of Jason's comp, was it ok or should he have done better here, certainly 2nd in long was good?

Full results are here:

ISU CS Warsaw Cup 2023

Event results for ISU CS Warsaw Cup 2023

page.pfsa.com.pl

Lacey · Nov 18, 2023

skatingguy said:
Full results are here:

ISU CS Warsaw Cup 2023

Event results for ISU CS Warsaw Cup 2023

page.pfsa.com.pl

Thanks, that link would not come up for me all day, I am outta here.

peibeck · Nov 19, 2023

Lacey said:
And more importantly, what do we think of Jason's comp, was it ok or should he have done better here, certainly 2nd in long was good?

Just going by the protocol... Assuming he makes it to Worlds, he will need a second 3a and should consider perhaps going for two lutzes (only one today was a double) and ditch the 2a altogether.

I'm interested in seeing this FS. "Tarzan," is not music I'd have expected for Jason!

4rkidz · Nov 19, 2023

From what I understand Jason hasn’t been training very much till recently so I would imagine improvements by nationals.

Aceon6 · Nov 19, 2023

peibeck said:
Just going by the protocol... Assuming he makes it to Worlds, he will need a second 3a and should consider perhaps going for two lutzes (only one today was a double) and ditch the 2a altogether.

I'm interested in seeing this FS. "Tarzan," is not music I'd have expected for Jason!

I liked the program. The choreography is interesting and the music will be new to most of us. The judges may throw him some “yay, something different” points. If he’s serious about Nats, he’ll do his best to fix the tech content. Frankly, US men, other than Malinin, are so unreliable, he might not need to do more than 2 3A’s and some super clean 3/3s.

Spikefan · Nov 19, 2023

peibeck said:
I'm interested in seeing this FS. "Tarzan," is not music I'd have expected for Jason!

I watched on my phone while also watching Espoo on my TV. I also don’t think the audio is the best, so take my impression with a grain of salt. I did not like it. It will require him to skate flawless and even then, I don’t know. It is still on Youtube, Warsaw Day III. I am going to reserve final judgment until Nationals.

peibeck · Nov 19, 2023

Spikefan said:
I watched on my phone while also watching Espoo on my TV. I also don’t think the audio is the best, so take my impression with a grain of salt. I did not like it. It will require him to skate flawless and even then, I don’t know. It is still on Youtube, Warsaw Day III. I am going to reserve final judgment until Nationals.

Thanks, both programs are still up on YouTube. I preferred the SP, even though the tech was more messy. The footwork sequence especially is fabulous.

There are things I liked about the free, but the first part is a bit empty, and some of the moves are recycled from prior programs and I don't really see them fitting here. And maybe it's the less than stellar quality of the YT video, but his costume also looks terrible. The pale yellow-green bleeding into the black just looks like a healing bruise. I expected the choreo sequence to feature leaps like he was jumping from tree to tree, but alas... wasted opportunity. :lol:

Not terrible, but not one of his most memorable programs (at least at this time).

caseyedwards · Nov 19, 2023

4rkidz said:
From what I understand Jason hasn’t been training very much till recently so I would imagine improvements by nationals.

Rotating all his triples will be very important.

Lacey · Nov 19, 2023

Spikefan said:
It is still on Youtube, Warsaw Day III. I am going to reserve final judgment until Nationals.

Does anyone have a link to men's FS in Warsaw on youtube?

skateboy · Nov 19, 2023

Lacey said:
Does anyone have a link to men's FS in Warsaw on youtube?

ISU CS Warsaw Cup 2023 - Day III

www.youtube.com

Lacey · Nov 19, 2023

Jason's skating was fine--short a wee bit shaky, long fabulous! He was the only one of the top four who had beauty and style. He is so artistic he makes me cry. His jumps were fine for this point in the season, and he skated WONDERFULLY! Some of the other skaters were jump, ump, jump, ump, BLAH BLAH. Even Jason's arms, hands, legs and had expression. His footwork was magic. He looked at the audience to bring them in, to make them part of the fun. Jason's whole long program was full of authentic skating charm, with some good and some great jumps thrown in for a complete package. He is still improving! Congratulations to him on a great skate. Good start to the season!

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