2023 Finlandia Trophy - Ice Dance RD & FD

[Wyliefan]

Whose score is high?

Sorry, S/D's.

 

[Wyliefan]

Beautifully done. That just flew by. I like Anthony in his mad scientist era.

 

[Marta24]

If TES stays Cpom might be getting a new PB.

 

[jlai]

The tes seems a tad high for the Spaniards

 

[marbri]

Hands down my favourite FD at this stage of the season from those I have seen. Just brilliantly choreography to the theme.

I

 

[Wyliefan]

They did it! Ahead of the Danadians! What a feather in their cap!

 

[Colonel Green]

A welcoming environment for the home team.

 

[PRlady]

Hands down my favourite FD at this stage of the season from those I have seen. Just brilliantly choreography to the theme.

I

Agreed and they were never my faves. They took a long time to get it together but maybe this is their year.

 

[Wyliefan]

That was a pretty great lift from the Finns. Twizzles a bit jerky, but done.

 

[sap5]

Happy to see CPom’s PCS rise.

 

[Colonel Green]

That's a lot of coordinated arm movement.

 

[Wyliefan]

Well, judging by the reactions, I think that has to go in first or there'll be a riot.

 

[PRlady]

Sorry but I’d have that behind FBS and CP. lots of unsynced movement and bland dancing.

 

[sap5]

Agreed and they were never my faves. They took a long time to get it together but maybe this is their year.

It takes time to undo past bad habits/approaches, but now with the right coaching, they are turning it around.

 

[marbri]

Finns are good skaters for sure but this FD I spend the first third waiting for Forest Blakk to kick in, the second third debating a trip to the fridge and the last third fastening my seatbelt for takeoff. As a concept it's pretty

 

[Wyliefan]

It takes time to undo past bad habits/approaches, but now with the right coaching, they are turning it around.

Plus Anthony's ankle was messed up. That surgery helped him a lot.

 

[sap5]

Plus Anthony's ankle was messed up. That surgery helped him a lot.

This is why I don't think this year is their year. He needs more time, but it is all coming along.

 

[Colonel Green]

Turkkila/Versluis are the first ever Finnish dance team to win their premiere home event. I thought Rahkamo/Kokko might have, but on inspection, this event started literally the year after they retired.

 

[Wyliefan]

Into 1st, what a shock.

But what a season CPom are having, from total dumpage to winning silver ahead of one of the top teams. And for those keeping track at home, they've now passed Zingas/Kolesnik in the scoring.

 

[PRlady]

Well they screwed up the RD two weeks ago and FB/S did the same yesterday. We don’t know how things will turn out, which is a good thing!

 

[PRlady]

The Browns, the French and Fun Finns ended up virtually tied, but that’s with a serious twizzle error by the Browns in the RD plus a pattern downgrade. I think things look good for them. Smart/Dieck as well without the errors.

 

[Wyliefan]

Final result:

​ ​ FPl. Name Nation Points RD FD 1 Juulia TURKKILA / Matthias VERSLUIS FIN 193.73 1 2 2 Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA 191.14 2 3 3 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SOERENSEN CAN 188.56 7 1 4 Olivia SMART / Tim DIECK ESP 178.47 3 6 5 Marie DUPAYAGE / Thomas NABAIS FRA 174.80 4 7 6 Yuka ORIHARA / Juho PIRINEN FIN 174.73 6 4 7 Oona BROWN / Gage BROWN USA 174.47 5 5 8 Lily HENSEN / Nathan LICKERS CAN 157.48 8 8 9 Olexandra BORYSOVA / Aaron FREEMAN POL 109.29 9 9

Wow, 5-7 were all within .33 points of each other!

FD score:

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​ Pl. Name Nation TSS = TES + PCS + CO PR SK Ded. - StN. 1​ Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SOERENSEN CAN 120.89​ 66.71​ 54.18​ 9.08​ 9.13​ 8.88​ 0.00​ #3​ 2​ Juulia TURKKILA / Matthias VERSLUIS FIN 117.97​ 65.89​ 52.08​ 8.79​ 8.79​ 8.46​ 0.00​ #9​ 3​ Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA 116.99​ 66.57​ 50.42​ 8.50​ 8.54​ 8.17​ 0.00​ #8​ 4​ Yuka ORIHARA / Juho PIRINEN FIN 106.80​ 60.22​ 46.58​ 7.75​ 8.04​ 7.50​ 0.00​ #4​ 5​ Oona BROWN / Gage BROWN USA 106.49​ 59.47​ 47.02​ 7.92​ 7.71​ 7.88​ 0.00​ #5​ 6​ Olivia SMART / Tim DIECK ESP 105.91​ 57.83​ 48.08​ 8.17​ 8.04​ 7.83​ 0.00​ #7​ 7​ Marie DUPAYAGE / Thomas NABAIS FRA 103.90​ 58.56​ 45.34​ 7.71​ 7.58​ 7.38​ 0.00​ #6​ 8​ Lily HENSEN / Nathan LICKERS CAN 96.39​ 55.31​ 41.08​ 7.08​ 6.67​ 6.79​ 0.00​ #2​ 9​ Olexandra BORYSOVA / Aaron FREEMAN POL 68.52​ 42.10​ 27.42​ 4.88​ 4.33​ 4.50​ 1.00​ #1​

 

[Moustaffask8r]

Well they screwed up the RD two weeks ago and FB/S did the same yesterday. We don’t know how things will turn out, which is a good thing!

 

[marbri]

Agreed and they were never my faves. They took a long time to get it together but maybe this is their year.

For me as well. I started noticing the glow up in Christina with the coaching move. Such a huge difference in her that it had me wondering if Igor just didn't rate her at all. This years FD she really is doing a stellar job in telling the story with her body movements. And Anthony, bless him, is really trying to up his game as well.

Will be fun to see them reach their full potential and above all else I tend to look at teams that way. If I think they have more in them I like to see them try to achieve that. This team seems to be in the right place now for that to happen.

As for fandom my heart is firmly with my Danadians and always has been. RD is strong, she is in it. Still unsure of the FD but I found myself nervously watching their elements today and not experiencing the choreography. On paper if should be really strong for them so will wait for the next competition to watch it better.

 

[barbarafan]

I know they aren't 100% but I thought it was some sort of collab agreement. But if it's just hey, can you help us with choreography and concept ideas then I am less confused

They are young and their dad is their coach. Understandably to move away in many ways was not feasible. They seem to be going there for short periods where they work on things that IAM are so good at perfecting plus the choreography and presentation and go home and their dad continues with the work as normal. It seems to be working out good. They are good PPL before they are skaters at IAM and what is best for the skater is what they are looking for.

 

[Wyliefan]

They are young and their dad is their coach.

Their dad is not their coach. Joel Dear is their coach.

 

[barbarafan]

Their dad is not their coach. Joel Dear is their coach.

sorry

 

[Sylvia]

FD protocols: https://www.figureskatingresults.fi...------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

 

[Rukia]

Well this is a nice result to wake up to. Hilariously I was doing some math yesterday to see if cpom could stay in 2nd and 120 was exactly what I figured for FB/S so I knew it would take a much higher fd score than what they got last time for cpom and lookie there. I'm pleased as punch.

 

[Wyliefan]

Well this is a nice result to wake up to. Hilariously I was doing some math yesterday to see if cpom could stay in 2nd and 120 was exactly what I figured for FB/S so I knew it would take a much higher fd score than what they got last time for cpom and lookie there. I'm pleased as punch.

I was doing the exact same calculations with the same number. CPom hive mind FTW!