2020-21 Canadian Pairs News & Updates

Xsktrx

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Since they were each with different coaches before they got together, they probably learned different techniques on the twist, so it takes longer for it to come together. Lots of teams take some extra time to figure out the triple twist, even if they have a lot of experience. I remember it was at least six months for Luba and Dylan, for example.

It’s also easy for forget how young they are since we have been watching them both for a while, but they are both still junior age-eligible. I’m willing to be a bit patient before writing them off.
Are you talking about Justine and Zach or Brooke and Ben when you say they are quite young and Jr age eligible? Justine is 19 and Zach 20, Brooke 15 and Ben I believe is also 20. Re the triple twist issue coming along time will tell. Brooke and Ben had different coaches but seem to have a decent triple twist in the works, but they have been together since spring so maybe those extra few months have helped it come along. Can someone educate me on Jr pairs eligibility. I know for pairs men it’s 21. For pairs women do you have to be 19 or under 19 Jan 1 of the current ISU season? Tried to find it on the ISU site but couldn’t locate. Thanks.
Since they were each with different coaches before they got together, they probably learned different techniques on the twist, so it takes longer for it to come together. Lots of teams take some extra time to figure out the triple twist, even if they have a lot of experience. I remember it was at least six months for Luba and Dylan, for example.

It’s also easy for forget how young they are since we have been watching them both for a while, but they are both still junior age-eligible. I’m willing to be a bit patient before writing them off.
 

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Are you talking about Justine and Zach or Brooke and Ben when you say they are quite young and Jr age eligible? Justine is 19 and Zach 20, Brooke 15 and Ben I believe is also 20. Re the triple twist issue coming along time will tell. Brooke and Ben had different coaches but seem to have a decent triple twist in the works, but they have been together since spring so maybe those extra few months have helped it come along. Can someone educate me on Jr pairs eligibility. I know for pairs men it’s 21. For pairs women do you have to be 19 or under 19 Jan 1 of the current ISU season? Tried to find it on the ISU site but couldn’t locate. Thanks.
Found it. Unfortunately this cancelled ISU JGP season was, if I read it correctly Justine’s last season of eligibility. No doubt if they come along senior grand prix events will be in their future.
 

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Watched Senior pairs. Brooke and Ben should do well at this level as they keep developing their chemistry and second mark. More eye contact and interaction than we have seen in previous years from Brooke which was nice to see. Lifts, twist and throw triple loop were solid. Brain cramp for Ben on the double axel but came back with a nice sbs tripe double combo. Throw lutz was a double so likely in the works but not yet ready for competition. Given Brooke has a reliable throw triple toe, sal and loop no reason not to expect the lutz as well in the future. For their first outing together pretty respectable and glad they did both programs instead of just a short or skipping it completely.
 

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I was impressed by their final lift, which it seemed like they almost circled the rink.
Agree. Ben covers the ice well with his lifts. Not sure if it was everyone’s streaming or just mine but for both pairs and some of the senior men the music was several seconds ahead of the video portion so it appeared everyone was finishing late.
 

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Nov. 20th article with quotes from Alison Purkiss:
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... She also coaches novice national champions Lily Wilberforce and Aidan Wright and she is working with seniors Patricia Andrew and Steven Adcock, a new team..
Andrew and her partner from last season, Zachary Daleman, captured the national junior pairs championship but they chose to move on with new partners.
Purkiss said everyone was happy to return to the Gretzky centre when it reopened in the middle of August.
She said she’s on the ice from 7:30 a.m. to 6 p.m., up to six days a week. A half-hour of cleaning is done between each ice session, said Purkiss, adding that the Gretzky staff – from the cleaners to managers – have been outstanding.
Early in the morning, the BSC uses the ice for its club skaters before the high-level national skaters arrive in the morning and practise until mid-afternoon.
“I think they definitely miss competing,” said Purkiss. “But they were off for a significant amount of time and so, having that taken away from you, it really puts your love of the sport into perspective.
Although no live events are planned, Skate Canada is planning to do a virtual challenge, Purkiss said.
Skating programs will be taped the week of Nov. 30. Those videos will then be sent to Skate Canada.
Purkiss said she believes the videos will be aired and judged simultaneously in January.
 

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This looks much prettier, tbh.

Does anyone know when Kirsten and Michael are going to perform their free program completely. And if they already have, can someone guide me toward a link?
Unless they go to Challenge (no indications either way), not until hypothetical nationals.
 

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Kirsten M-T has cool Instagram story clips of her and Michael performing at the Nathan Phillips Square outdoor rink in Toronto as the clock struck midnight - this was being filmed for IllumiNATION, a virtual show that will premiere on Thursday, December 17:
 

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Meagan posted about trying out a different throw Salchow technique for BOTB than the one she and Eric used competitively.

This looks much prettier, tbh.

Yes MUCH prettier. It looks like the classic flowing throw that we want from pairs skaters.

I always found the way Meagan had the free arm up in the air distracted from the throw, and I thought that was just how she had to do a throw salchow. Funny that on BOTB with a hockey player the throw got totally reworked into something way better.

I don't know if my memory is just affected by Meagan and Erics quads which were more assisted jumps that just went vertically up rather than out, but that jump on BOTB seems much better aesthetically.

Interesting that she says she understands why Russians and Chinese use hip hold throws as they generate more power. But as a lay person watching skating, that always seemed apparent.

Do different countries use different holds going into throws? I'm just trying to thing of the different throw techniques I've seen recently. It seems like most use the hip hold now (but more used to hold the hand in previous times).

Anyway, Meagan will make a good coach.
 
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Yes MUCH prettier. It looks like the classic flowing throw that we want from pairs skaters.

I always found the way Meagan had the free arm up in the air distracted from the throw, and I thought that was just how she had to do a throw salchow. Funny that on BOTB with a hockey player the throw got totally reworked into something way better.

I don't know if my memory is just affected by Meagan and Erics quads which were more assisted jumps that just went vertically up rather than out, but that jump on BOTB seems much better aesthetically.

Interesting that she says she understands why Russians and Chinese use hip hold throws as they generate more power. But as a lay person watching skating, that always seemed apparent.

Do different countries use different holds going into throws? I'm just trying to thing of the different throw techniques I've seen recently. It seems like most use the hip hold now (but more used to hold the hand in previous times).

Anyway, Meagan will make a good coach.
The Canadian throw mentality, as I understand it, is that the throw is the lady's jump, and the man provides assistance.
 

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