“She/He is a great 6.0 skater”. Please explain

[Icetalavista]

Does it mean that they excel in things no longer being rewarded, such as doing fewer moves but doing them well? Or that they have programs which aren’t overly full of transitions? Or that they hold moves longer, for example spirals? Or something else?

 

[Aceon6]

Does it mean that they excel in things no longer being rewarded, such as doing fewer moves but doing them well? Or that they have programs which aren’t overly full of transitions? Or that they hold moves longer, for example spirals? Or something else?

Yes. 6.0 was “total package” scoring. There was less of a reward for difficulty and more reward for program continuity.

 

[Icetalavista]

There has to be a happy medium,sigh. Honestly, do choreographers like Danny G go over the rules with a calculator, and determine x # of random leg lifts equals x more points? Then why doesn’t everyone do it? They should go back to rewarding transitions before jumps and declutter the rest of the program

 

[layman]

Karen Chen would be a great example of a "great 6.0 skater."

She does not pre-rotate her jumps. Her jumps are huge. The first jump in a combo is usually so big that it's hard to tack on a clean triple (for the combo). She holds her spiral positions long enough for you to see and appreciate them. She hits the classic "layback" position in the layback spin. She listens to her music and uses the music to make choreographic points. Her choreography is not cluttered.

Karen is such a throw-back (to 6.0).

 

[Colonel Green]

She does not pre-rotate her jumps. Her jumps are huge.

And often underrotated (also very common in 6.0).

 

[VGThuy]

Someone should have taught Karen to prerotate her jumps instead of underrotate them. She could have had a much better career if she did that.

 

[canbelto]

Jason Brown is a great 6.0 skater.

 

[Karen-W]

What I don't get is why it is okay to pre-rotate jumps but post-rotating (which is essentially what under-rotation is) isn't. I feel like the system should punish skaters equally for the missing degrees of rotation regardless of whether it happens at the start or at the end of the jump.

 

[Marco]

What I don't get is why it is okay to pre-rotate jumps but post-rotating (which is essentially what under-rotation is) isn't. I feel like the system should punish skaters equally for the missing degrees of rotation regardless of whether it happens at the start or at the end of the jump.

The ISU was going to introduce pre-rotation penalty last year but somehow the requirement was put on hold.

 

[Marco]

Yes. 6.0 was “total package” scoring. There was less of a reward for difficulty and more reward for program continuity.

Yes a great IJS skater is someone who maximizes scores by strictly following IJS guidance and checkboxes, even if the final product is not coherent one way or another. [e.g. ladies in 2006 were doing donuts or Biellmanns on all 4 of their spins; over-Ripponing in the last 8 years; over-backloading; recent skaters doing all these steps and transitions that do not match the music, etc]

The second mark under 6.0 is much more for overall impression and so the 'package' matters. That's why someone like Oksana Baiul can have no technical choreography and still get 5.8s and 5.9s to win the Olympics.