"Then those parents" and anyone who wants to talk about it have the right to talk about an investigation that was made public so the public would know. Dave, and any person that forks taxes to the US government, can talk about a Safespot's investigation that was made public until they go blue...
Safesport made it public.
Tinami, you are going out of your way to blame Dave for a news that Safesport broke themselves by announcing the investigation to the public. As it should be. They were given a grant by congress which means we, the people, are forking money to them. Damn well...
I think we have to finally accept that skating culture is ugly. It's Awful. It's not only what is happening to TSL, but the obvious pushback masquerading as "concern."
If I were the accuser's family, I would ask them why go to nationals? Why put yourself through that?
It's so obvious people...
I find it more sad that many potential victims will never come out to report their abuse because of the reaction to the John Coughlin case. The cards are stack against any victim that comes forward.
The people that are threatening to confront the accuser at nationals are vile. They lack the...
PSA's statement sounds like a love letter to coaches and comp: " we got your back boys ;) don't worry"
Doesn't the S on PSA stand for skaters ? This is too blatant to just be a poorly worded statement.
I wouldn't blame the accuser if they decide to cut their loses and call it a career. Who...
Wow, it still shocking to read. The rumor were always out there after the news broke, but it still difficult to process when you read it in print.
Also, I am going to donate money to TSL tonight. There were times when I thought Dave Lease should have been dragged on social media, but his...
You need to speak with better sources.
A scenario where John would not be informed of the nature of his own investigation is so far fetched, it doesn't merit consideration. Anyone here could actually pick up the phone, talk to Safesport, and ask them for a guideline of their process of...
This is to me is the biggest problem with this whole case. I don't think this is the inability of a sport's organization, but the absolute arrogance from the USFSA. They believe that if they stay quiet it will make any scandal go away. Just go to their website and see how hard it is to find any...
Safesports does not have criminal jurisdiction. They have no legal way to censor you. You can even take them to court if they retaliate against you. I understand the politics behind it, but Safesport and no one was going to deny him due process.
I do, however, agree that Safesport needs to...
Who told him he was not legally able to state his case publicly?
Even if his case had been referred for a criminal investigation ( we don't know with certainty) he can still state his innocence. Unless a judge gagged him, there are very few things that could prevent him from having his due...
Skating culture is very misogynistic, especially for a sport that has such a massive female following. In fact, not naming people, I would say certain females coaches are enablers.
Regardless of what becomes of these investigations. Let's hope, at the very least, some good changes are in order.
Why ?
Normal cases are public. If you and I were to be investigated for misconduct, our names would be public. Bet on it. Reporting on what is happening is not denying John Coughlin due process. It's passing down information that we can choose to access if we want to. And why shouldn't we want...
The poster said they believed John because the people around him had only nice things to say about him, my post picked on it.
No one is oversimplifying anyone's point of view. I asked a question. It's that simple.
I am of the mind that you can take sides, but hopefully still think the...
There is no problem with taking sides. It's human nature.
I think the question is whether you believe the complaint should be fully investigated?
Do you believe the "other party" has the right to seek an investigation? Or does it not matter to you because they don't get the benefit of the...
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