Nepela Memorial - Women's SP & FS

[skateboy]

The scores look low. I didn't watch... were the women "womenning?"

 

[Private Citizen]

I watched Ava’s short program for a second time I have to say it’s quite interesting and quite good. I really like her skating.

Having watch that combination spin two times now what was wrong with it that made invalid? I can’t tell.

I love her short program, too.

On the combo spin, the camel was really out of control and never hit anything close to a center. I’m guessing she didn’t have enough rotations (minimum three) to count on the forward part of the spin? I’m guessing none of the camel revolutions counted, and only two of the sit spin revolutions were deemed to be in position.

 

[Wyliefan]

Quite a nice skate for Anna, but what was that hideous music? It sounded like Susan Alexander trying to sing for Charles Foster Kane.

 

[victorskid]

The Free Skate is underway.
Start Order/Live results: https://www.kraso.sk/wp-content/uploads/sutaze/2025_2026/MON25/SEG004.htm
There is a paid live stream.

 

[Private Citizen]

And with these two performances, I think Elyce Lin-Gracey’s Olympic bid is all but over. With three US women in the top five in the world, you can’t score 101 in the free skate and 154 overall even once and expect to be in consideration.

At this point, I’d say Sarah Everhardt is the only potential spoiler barring injury to the existing top three.

 

[Karen-W]

And with these two performances, I think Elyce Lin-Gracey’s Olympic bid is all but over. With three US women in the top five in the world, you can’t score 101 in the free skate and 154 overall even once and expect to be in consideration.

At this point, I’d say Sarah Everhardt is the only potential spoiler barring injury to the existing top three.

That was my thought yesterday after the SP.

 

[Private Citizen]

Eek, rough skate from Ziegler. 84 total free skate score . I had a feeling this might happen. She doesn’t look back to full strength yet. She did well to get through the short program, spin aside.

 

[PRlady]

Did anyone see Chayeon? What happened to her? 92 in the free skate?!

 

[Karen-W]

Did anyone see Chayeon? What happened to her? 92 in the free skate?!

Nope, I was asleep. I guess that's consolation to Elyce - she did beat the reigning 4CCs champ.

Starr is having a rough day too.

 

[hoptoad]

Eek, rough skate from Ziegler. 84 total free skate score . I had a feeling this might happen. She doesn’t look back to full strength yet. She did well to get through the short program, spin aside.

I agree this wasn't unexpected, but I'm pleased she had a good short. I'm holding out hope that she improves as the season continues and think she has a shot a 4C assignment.

 

[Karen-W]

Sara Maude went for the 3A - stepped out and fast 3-turns on the landing. We'll see what the tech panel does with it on review.

 

[victorskid]

Sara Maude went for the 3A - stepped out and fast 3-turns on the landing. We'll see what the tech panel does with it on review.

I'm glad she went for it - hope to see some video later

 

[victorskid]

Sara Maude went for the 3A - stepped out and fast 3-turns on the landing. We'll see what the tech panel does with it on review.

From the protocols, it appears that they considered it rotated

 

[her grace]

Kim, C. seems to have lost her consistency in the worst possible season.

 

[victorskid]

Skate Canada is lauding Sara-Maude for making history with the first 3A landed by a CDN woman in international competition. It is shown as 3A on the protocols but there was negative GOE.
Bev Smith (and some others) are arguing on X that it wasn't a "landed jump" if there was negative GOE. If that's the case, there are an awful lot of jumps that are not "landed"!!!!

 

[Private Citizen]

The standard in the past has always been landing a jump on one foot cleanly with no touch of the free foot. Stepping out of a jump has never counted. If it does, Kurt Browning should relinquish his “first quad” title to Jozef Sabovcik whose quad was much cleaner than Dupuis’s triple axel. There are probably other firsts that need to be recalculated if all one needs to do is rotate and stay upright.

 

[tony]

The standard in the past has always been landing a jump on one foot cleanly with no touch of the free foot. Stepping out of a jump has never counted. If it does, Kurt Browning should relinquish his “first quad” title to Jozef Sabovcik whose quad was much cleaner than Dupuis’s triple axel. There are probably other firsts that need to be recalculated if all one needs to do is rotate and stay upright.

Yeah, I think Skate Canada was just giddy on talking about it but it shouldn't really count as 'landed'. But anyways, she can do it and I hope she lands it leading into Nationals.

I remember Angela Derochie out of seemingly nowhere tried a 3A in the short program in the Grand Prix in 1998 and the snap was beautiful but she fell on it and it seemed most judges didn't even realize it was a 3A attempt.

 

[Private Citizen]

Way back in the day, Canadian lady Lisa Sargeant attempted a triple axel in the short, too. I want to say it was 1989 or 1990? I believe Sargeant stood up the triple axel at least once and would deserve credit (30+ years in hindsight) as the first under this revised standard.

Josee Chouinard landed some beautiful triple axels in practice, but never attempted one. I remember she was at one point thinking about attempting one as a pro.

 

[tony]

Josee Chouinard landed some beautiful triple axels in practice, but never attempted one. I remember she was at one point thinking about attempting one as a pro.

Yes, I think it was relatively later in her career like 2000 Canadian Open? that they mentioned it.

 

[Private Citizen]

Some archived materials in Skating Magazine and the Skate Guard Blog indicate Lisa Sargeant-Driscoll landed a flawed triple axel at 1993 Canadians:

Skating Magazine Archive

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The 1993 Canadian Figure Skating Championships

Everything you want to know about the history of figure skating in one place! An authoritative archive of over a century of figure skating history.

www.skateguardblog.com

 

[Karen-W]

So, who's going to go tag Skate Canada in their social media posts about Sara Maude's 3A and point out hers isn't the first attempt by a Canadian lady that was stood up?

 

[tony]

So, who's going to go tag Skate Canada in their social media posts about Sara Maude's 3A and point out hers isn't the first attempt by a Canadian lady that was stood up?

International competition

 

[bladesofgorey]

Kim, C. seems to have lost her consistency in the worst possible season.

This is sad. I like her. Similar to Hana who is also struggling this season, she has a unique presentation that I find interesting.

 

[victorskid]

So, who's going to go tag Skate Canada in their social media posts about Sara Maude's 3A and point out hers isn't the first attempt by a Canadian lady that was stood up?

Their post said "in international competition"

 

[Karen-W]

International competition

Their post said "in international competition"

Ahhhh... Of course! I mean, per the rule book it's a ratified 3A attempt, so here we are. The jump did look fully rotated, even if she did stumble out of the landing.

 

[Wyliefan]

So Anna's got a Swan Lake program. And like Kaetlyn Osmond before her, she's a better swan than I would have expected. Her presentation has matured so much.