Bill Cosby Meme Generator Backfires

MacMadame said:
You are leaving out the possibility that she is being abused, at least emotionally, and, like a lot of abused women, doesn't see a way out. I thought of this because, if this is how he treated other women, I doubt very much that he treats her very well either.
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That might explain her staying with him if it weren't for the other things in that story and the nature of his issues. If she was abused, she would believe that others were abused. She wouldn't be denying it and saying that she made Bill Cosby and taking affirmative steps to help him. She's certainly got problems, though, but I'm not convinced he drugged and raped her. She may just be in huge denial. And once she stuck by him her denial got even worse.
 
I will also be flat out enough of a bitch to say that I believe Camille has relished the life that has come with being Mrs. Bill Cosby and damn if she is going to give that up easily. Sorry if I sound callous but I have very little more respect for her than I have for her disgusting husband.
 
Whoopi was on the View and and spoke to legal analyst Dam Abrams.
Once he explained the law, the statute of limitations, etc., she backed off her previous defense of Bill Cosby and finally admitted he DOES seem like a serial rapist.
 
Yes. It was like she never heard about the statute of limitations before. She thought if he did it, he would be in jail. ugh.
 
Come on you guys, when the first woman came forward, most people were on Cosby's side. People were saying things like, "she's trying to salvage her dying celebrity career" or "she just wants to get a big payout out of him". Whoopi has been known to play Devil's Advocate (how apt here...), she likes to look at things in terms of all potential possibilities. But as time goes by and more information is brought to light, one can't try to give somebody the benefit of the doubt anymore. I don't think Whoopi changed her mind only because of the information this lawyer provided. I think her mind has been changing with more and more women coming forward and she's finally at the point where a childhood hero of hers can no longer be defended and she's letting go a part of something very important to her by agreeing that this American hero...is no longer that. At all.
 
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I'm sure she still thinks it's wasn't "real rape" or "Rape rape" or however she coined it. And yes I know she coined it for Roman Polanski.
 
Yazmeen said:
I will also be flat out enough of a bitch to say that I believe Camille has relished the life that has come with being Mrs. Bill Cosby and damn if she is going to give that up easily. Sorry if I sound callous but I have very little more respect for her than I have for her disgusting husband.
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Plus, she is also in her seventies (71 according to Wiki), and been married to him for 51 years. I imagine it would be very difficult for her to start living a life on her own.
 
Karina1974 said:
Plus, she is also in her seventies (71 according to Wiki), and been married to him for 51 years. I imagine it would be very difficult for her to start living a life on her own.[/QUOTE

Very good point.
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Whoopi has a real blind spot on this topic. Agree with what Peter said plus she's shown herself to be out of her depth on this topic. She did it with Polanski and others apparently.
 
Sparks said:
She got mega backlash on social media. She could no longer defend herself.
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I think this is the explanation. There's no way she didn't know about the statue of limitations before now. Anyone who has read or seen stories on this knows about the statute of limitations. Plus, it's idiotic to say that someone is innocent until proven guilty when we're talking about public opinion, not jail time, and the guy admitted under oath to buying drugs in order to have sex with women, refused to say whether the women consented, and then settled out of court. And, oh yeah, then there's those dozens of women who all have told similar stories of rape, some of them anonymously, with nothing to gain from lying.
 
MacMadame said:
You are leaving out the possibility that she is being abused, at least emotionally, and, like a lot of abused women, doesn't see a way out. I thought of this because, if this is how he treated other women, I doubt very much that he treats her very well either.
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Does she show any symptoms of an abused spouse?

Kruss said:
Blog from a former castmember: Of Course Bill Cosby Is Guilty
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Worth the read if only to find the first reply by Julie Goodman.
 
DAngel said:
Does she show any symptoms of an abused spouse?
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Besides staying with him and sticking up for him? Of course that's what's known as a tautology.

I am not saying I believe 100% that this is true. I'm saying we should be open to the possibility.
 
I really think Goodman and some of the other commenters are unfair. There are those who seem to expect people who hear their good friends are accused of horrible things to instantly cry, "Of course! He's rotten to the core! I renounce him and all his works, and I don't feel the slightest bit torn over it!" If that's their definition of friendship, do they even know what a friend is? If you're shown evidence that your friend is guilty, then you have reason to believe he's guilty; but if you've only heard some accusations and you think you have reason to believe he's innocent, then what kind of friend are you if you turn on him before you have proof?

Also, Phillips clearly said that what he suffered was nothing compared to what rape victims suffer, so there's no need to mock what he felt. He's entitled to his feelings.
 
Goodman clearly said that he believes that Cosby is guilty. He also said that he, essentially, feels that Cosby should receive no actual punishment for it. That's a problem.

Everyone is entitled to their feelings. They're not entitled to state their feelings without any possible repercussions, however.
 
No one in this world is entitled to state their feelings without repercussions. Doesn't mean the repercussions are always right or fair, though.

Goodman spends very little time on the question of punishment; I was responding to some of the other things in her comments. But as for punishment, Phillips doesn't even deal with the issue. It may well be that he believes that punishment's off the table since the statute of limitations has run out on nearly all the cases, so there's no point in considering it an option. If he really does believe that punishment is possible but Cosby should get off scot-free, I agree that's a problematic idea -- but he doesn't say that.
 
I thought she was on point with his problematic thinking process, even if I understood his other points about the difficulty of looking at your mentor in a negative light and having to deal with the denial and acceptance. I don't think the problem is that he didn't believe the victims right away and stuck up for his friend, but his whole attitude and explanation of how he came to the realization. I thought they had some real problematic misogynistic overtones. I shouldn't be surprised though because I was already familiar with his politics so they were not surprising.
 
VIETgrlTerifa said:
I thought she was on point with his problematic thinking process, even if I understood his other points about the difficulty of looking at your mentor in a negative light and having to deal with the denial and acceptance. I don't think the problem is that he didn't believe the victims right away and stuck up for his friend, but his whole attitude and explanation of how he came to the realization. I thought they had some real problematic misogynistic overtones. I shouldn't be surprised though because I was already familiar with his politics so they were not surprising.
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I also have a problem with Phillips saying Cosby should "go live a quiet country life" and "allow those of us who truly [him] to preserve just a bit of our enchantment". Cosby is a serial rapist. He does not deserve a "quiet country life", he deserves a "rot in jail" life. What's the count now - 40 women? Any enchantment Phillips had should be entirely gone by now. Being a Cosby apologist shouldn't be acceptable. :blah:
 
DAngel said:
I also have a problem with Phillips saying Cosby should "go live a quiet country life" and "allow those of us who truly [him] to preserve just a bit of our enchantment". Cosby is a serial rapist. He does not deserve a "quiet country life", he deserves a "rot in jail" life. ... :blah:
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I could understand someone saying that Cosby should "go live a quiet country life" because the statute of limitations prevents him from getting the "rot in jail" life that he deserves. The idea of "preserv[ing] ... enchantment" with Cosby no longer makes any sense to me.
 
I will be interested to see this.
I saw part of the Dr. Phil show on it and, as expected, he had them repeat the details and then spent time talking about the dangers of drugs used and how an app can help you if you're in trouble. Wanted to throw something at the TV! Why doesn't he focus on the perpetrators in these situations? About what it means to be a man in our culture? How about a show on consent and what that means? Or how parents are raising their sons? Or how we as a culture permit this? Big questions, rarely covered.
 
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