Wyliefan
Ubering juniors against my will
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I've mocked @allezfred as much as anyone else for his vampire-confronting-holy-water reactions to U.S. pairs, but it's untrue and unfair to say he hates all North American skaters.
When VM came back, I hoped that they would delve more deeply into off-ice styles of dance and adapt them to the ice -- sort of like what Green/Parsons did this year, and what they themselves had done with Hip Hip Chin Chin, Pink Floyd, and Carmen. However, taking risks like that doesn't often result in gold medals, and in their comeback, they were under tremendous pressure to win the Olympics. B2ten was funding a huge part of their skating expenses, with the expectation that Olympic golds would result.Not sure why you need to use “rightfully”, but they were an extraordinary team with programmes a lot of the time that didn’t meet their talents.
A nationalist trying to label & criticize someone else as xenophobic. Make. It. Make. Sense.Yup! So true lol.
They have three Olympic golds and a silver. I don’t think they really have anything to prove to anyone else or particularly have any desire to do so at this stage.My hope is that one day they will do show programs like this, though it would take amount of time and effort to do that right -- so maybe that hope is very unrealistic.
All I can add is that at least @allezfred actually watches the skating rather than coming into threads with odd, unsubstantial posts and then saying after 50 replies that he hasn’t watched skating in ‘years’.A nationalist trying to label & criticize someone else as xenophobic. Make. It. Make. Sense.
Not working honey!A nationalist trying to label & criticize someone else as xenophobic. Make. It. Make. Sense.
It wouldn't be to prove anything. It would be show programs done because they enjoy creating the programs and exploring dance styles. But that is just my fantasy.They have three Olympic golds and a silver. I don’t think they really have anything to prove to anyone else or particularly have any desire to do so at this stage.
I made no such assumption about Gabriella Papadakis based on the story that Madison Hubbell told. I was simply relaying the details to someone who hadn't seen it, and had asked what all the fuss was about. I'm not going to make any assumptions about what Madison Hubbell from the clip either.There again, you can decide she is an arrogant, lording-it-over-team-mates kind of girl or if you really look at the sum of what she said or did in other situations, see that she (clumsily for sure but this is also spontaneous Gabi) meant that she believes all 3 pairs would be on the podium. She really believes and hopes that H/D can be there. Maddi's reaction of course was about being on top.
They aren’t returning back to skating though.When VM came back, I hoped that they would delve more deeply into off-ice styles of dance and adapt them to the ice -- sort of like what Green/Parsons did this year, and what they themselves had done with Hip Hip Chin Chin, Pink Floyd, and Carmen. However, taking risks like that doesn't often result in gold medals, and in their comeback, they were under tremendous pressure to win the Olympics. B2ten was funding a huge part of their skating expenses, with the expectation that Olympic golds would result.
My hope is that one day they will do show programs like this, though it would take a lot of time and effort to do that right -- so maybe that hope is very unrealistic.
Well, we don't know that. They are both in their early 30s. To definitely say they'll never skate again in their whole lives is a bit of a stretch, I think.They aren’t returning back to skating though.
I can guarantee you that it isn’t. Unfortunate but true.Well, we don't know that. They are both in their early 30s. To definitely say they'll never skate again in their whole lives is a bit of a stretch, I think.
I can think of a few Moonlight Sonatas that got the crowd going, including P/C's at Euros the month before Pyeongchang.They didn't choose a crowd pleaser as FD and I understand their need to do what they believe in, but like Moonlight sonata, it will never put an Oly crowd on their feet.
I've mocked @allezfred as much as anyone else for his vampire-confronting-holy-water reactions to U.S. pairs, but it's untrue and unfair to say he hates all North American skaters.
I don't agree with this. It was between P/C and V/M. They were co-favorites.Also, IMO P/C were slated to be the victors in 2018.
I'm glad someone does.Lol yup I do.
Absolutely! but the Olys are a different beast ... not the same type of spectators.I can think of a few Moonlight Sonatas that got the crowd going, including P/C's at Euros the month before Pyeongchang.
Chinese spectators ?It doesn't sound like there will be much a crowd, so that solves that problem.
Gordeeva/Grinkov had a great response to theirs at the Olympics despite some errors that I think casual fans didn't care too much about but fans did. Fumie Suguri also had a great one in SLC. Maybe the jumps and spins helped, as did the lifts (in G/G's case). People also loved G/G's romantic connection.Absolutely! but the Olys are a different beast ... not the same type of spectators.
Even that’s being limited.Chinese spectators ?
I know we're discussing someone else's version of what she said, so we don't have her actual words to refer to, but when I was watching the episode I interpreted what Madison H said Gabi said to mean that being on the podium at their first GP event after more than a year away felt as good as winning the Olympics, not that she was assuming they'd win? Which might not even be close to the truth but if nothing else does demonstrate that there are a lot of ways to read that statement.There again, you can decide she is an arrogant, lording-it-over-team-mates kind of girl or if you really look at the sum of what she said or did in other situations, see that she (clumsily for sure but this is also spontaneous Gabi) meant that she believes all 3 pairs would be on the podium. She really believes and hopes that H/D can be there. Maddi's reaction of course was about being on top.
LimitedChinese spectators ?
Eh, I've come to the conclusion ( rightly or wrongly) that Gordeeva and Grinkov's Olympic skate to Moonlight Sonata seems to be one of those Mandela effect performances. Their skating was lovely but it really didn't win over the crowdGordeeva/Grinkov had a great response to theirs at the Olympics despite some errors that I think casual fans didn't care too much about but fans did. Fumie Suguri also had a great one in SLC. Maybe the jumps and spins helped, as did the lifts (in G/G's case). People also loved G/G's romantic connection.
I just went by what I heard and saw from the videos I've watched. M/D had loud applause as well and the crowd loved their performance. I was just saying the crowd seemed to enjoy G/G as well based on my own observations.Eh, Gordeeva and Grinkov's Olympic skate to Moonlight Sonata seems to be one of those Mandela effect performances. Their skating was lovely but it really didn't win over the crowd
Katia actually complained in "My Sergei" that M&D recieved more applause during the medal ceremony and she was a bit disappointed by that.
Lovely people, but once you’ve heard someone positively gleeful at the idea of using “Phantom of the Opera”……Now Davis and White, on the other hand..... .
I am one of the few here who likes James/Radford as a pair. Shame it took them this long to find each other.
If his reaction is that bad,, I'd hate to see his response to Canadian pairs
Well, we don't know that. They are both in their early 30s. To definitely say they'll never skate again in their whole lives is a bit of a stretch, I think.
Doesn't mean they definitively won't do some kind of performance later on in their lives. Who thought Grishuk and Platov would ever skate together again?Tessa and Scott have severed their partnership and moved into different directions.