In Memoriam

[MacMadame]

Maybe he needs his own thread but maybe not

Henry Kissinger, Secretary of State in 1970s Crises, Dies at 100

Henry Kissinger, the child refugee who rose to become US secretary of state and defined American foreign policy during the 1970s with his strategies to end the Vietnam War and contain communist countries, has died. He was 100.

www.bloomberg.com

If that link wants more from you than you are willing to give, here is a gifted link to WaPo:
https://wapo.st/3QTI9Ks (gifted)

 

[skatingguy]

“Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands. You will never again be able to open a newspaper and read about that treacherous, prevaricating, murderous scumbag sitting down for a nice chat with Charlie Rose or attending some black-tie affair for a new glossy magazine without choking. Witness what Henry did in Cambodia – the fruits of his genius for statesmanship – and you will never understand why he’s not sitting in the dock at The Hague next to Milošević.”​

― Anthony Bourdain

 

[jenny12]

One of the very worst war criminals in history has died.

 

[Simone411]

Thanks @skatingguy for sharing that article.

Two of the most vociferous critics, Christopher Hitchens and William Shawcross, branded Dr. Kissinger a war criminal. Journalist Seymour M. Hersh, in “The Price of Power,” said Dr. Kissinger and Nixon were basically two of a kind: They “remained blind to the human costs of their actions. The dead and maimed in Vietnam and Cambodia — as in Chile, Bangladesh, Biafra and the Middle East — seemed not to count as the President and his national security adviser battled the Soviet Union, their misconceptions, their political enemies, and each other.

At the very least, those who did not admire Dr. Kissinger felt that his focus on Cold War realities and his willingness to use force — openly or covertly — to advance U.S. objectives blinded him to humanitarian and human rights considerations.

It wasn't just the dead and maimed in Vietnam and Cambodia. It's what our military was exposed to while they were there.

Agent Orange: A Toxic Legacy

Delve into the haunting legacy of Agent Orange, a series of herbicides used by the US military during the Vietnam War. Discover the long-term health implications faced by veterans and their descendants, and understand the ongoing battles they face due to exposure to this deadly toxin. The scars...

www.knowavet.org

A war with themselves—physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually for some. Agent Orange has not only affected those with direct contact, but it has affected their families as well. Future generations are left to fight the residual effects of a war that ended nearly five decades ago.

The U.S. sprayed millions of gallons of Agent Orange on the jungles of Vietnam, as part of “Operation Ranch Hand” and lasted from 1961 to 1971. Parts of neighboring Cambodia and Laos were also affected. The effects of the chemical weapon are still being felt to this day. Image courtesy of Cempaka Health, Welfare and Society

One such individual who has inherited the harsh legacy of Agent Orange is 40-year-old, Melissa from California and daughter of a Vietnam veteran. The mother of two has a uterus anomaly, which makes it more challenging to have children, and grew up with a growth hormone deficiency which required her to take human growth hormone injections for four to five years after her growth was stunted around the age of eight—along with a host of other medical conditions.

Many second and third generation off-spring of Vietnam veterans suffer from a variety of a long list of medical conditions. The problem however, is that as of now, there are still a severe lack of knowledge and studies as it pertains to conditions that can reliably be traced to Agent Orange exposure among the following generations.

Yes, one of the worst war criminals in history has died. No need to say anymore.

 

[MacMadame]

Rolling Stones' headline has War Criminal in the headline. I thought posting that one might be controversial.

 

[VALuvsMKwan]

Someone far worthier of mourning than the war criminal:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/29/world/mary-cleave-nasa-astronaut-obit-scn/index.html

 

[Cachoo]

Rolling Stones' headline has War Criminal in the headline. I thought posting that one might be controversial.

Gawd that administration sucked. When you combine the bombings in Cambodia and the rise of the murderous Pol Pot because of the bombings you find Kissinger responsible for oceans of blood. And correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t he also part of the group that sought to keep LBJ from peace negotiations in Viet Nam? Just wanton disregard for human life….

 

[allezfred]

Shane McGowan, lead singer of The Pogues, has died.

Pogues frontman Shane MacGowan dies aged 65

The death has been announced of Pogues frontman and songwriter Shane MacGowan. He was 65 and had been ill for some time.

www.rte.ie

 

[skateycat]

Shane McGowan, lead singer of The Pogues, has died.

Pogues frontman Shane MacGowan dies aged 65

The death has been announced of Pogues frontman and songwriter Shane MacGowan. He was 65 and had been ill for some time.

www.rte.ie

Awwwww, ever since I heard the song “If I Should Fall From Grace With God” in a Berkeley record store when I was in high school eleventy years ago, I have loved the Pogues. RIP Shane.

 

[MacMadame]

Shane McGowan, lead singer of The Pogues, has died.

Pogues frontman Shane MacGowan dies aged 65

The death has been announced of Pogues frontman and songwriter Shane MacGowan. He was 65 and had been ill for some time.

www.rte.ie

I'm much more sad about this than about Kissinger.

 

[MacMadame]

Gawd that administration sucked. When you combine the bombings in Cambodia and the rise of the murderous Pol Pot because of the bombings you find Kissinger responsible for oceans of blood. And correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t he also part of the group that sought to keep LBJ from peace negotiations in Viet Nam? Just wanton disregard for human life….

If people want to discuss Kissinger's politics, I started a thread in PI:

https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/threads/the-politics-of-henry-kissinger-genius-or-war-criminal.111310/

 

[Cachoo]

Ireland is taking it on the chin this year. I love The Pogues.

Shane MacGowan, Songwriter Who Fused Punk and Irish Rebellion, Is Dead at 65

As frontman for the Pogues, he romanticized whiskey-soaked rambles and hard-luck stories of emigration, while providing a musical touchstone for members of the Irish diaspora.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Rob]

Gawd that administration sucked. When you combine the bombings in Cambodia and the rise of the murderous Pol Pot because of the bombings you find Kissinger responsible for oceans of blood. And correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t he also part of the group that sought to keep LBJ from peace negotiations in Viet Nam? Just wanton disregard for human life….

I think you are right - Nixon, Haldeman, Anna Chennault, Mitchell etc. and it has been reported that Kissinger gave the warning to Nixon of the peace talks. Of course all denied. But then Kissinger gets the Nobel Peace Prize later, what a travesty. At least Le Duc Tho refused to accept the prize. More than shady, downright war criminal.

 

[Cachoo]

Sinead and Shane together:


https://youtu.be/_q7307IWwr4?si=gPfZ0vOS80bjSbFK

 

[attyfan]

Denny Laine of Wings and Moody Blues has died:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/05/entertainment/denny-laine-death/index.html

RIP

 

[Cachoo]

Norman Lear has passed away. He was a creative giant for funny, insightful, political television comedy:

Norman Lear, Whose Comedies Changed the Face of TV, Is Dead at 101

As the producer of “All in the Family” and many other shows, Mr. Lear showed that it was possible to be topical, funny and immensely popular.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Buzz]

Norman Lear has passed away. He was a creative giant for funny, insightful, political television comedy:

Norman Lear, Whose Comedies Changed the Face of TV, Is Dead at 101

As the producer of “All in the Family” and many other shows, Mr. Lear showed that it was possible to be topical, funny and immensely popular.

www.nytimes.com

What a life! R.I.P.

 

[vgerdes]

Yes, the passing of creative icons Norman Lear and Shane MacGowan made me infinitely sadder than the death of Kissinger, who may have been revered by some in life but will undoubtedly be viewed by future generations as a war criminal of the worst sort, who was never called to account for his crimes.

 

[MacMadame]

Ryan O'Neal has died

Ryan O’Neal, Hollywood actor and star of Love Story, dies aged 82

Death of star of Paper Moon, What’s Up, Doc? and Barry Lyndon announced by his son Patrick O’Neal

www.theguardian.com

 

[quartz]

Paper Moon is one of my favourite movies.

 

[Cachoo]

Ryan O'Neal has died

Ryan O’Neal, Hollywood actor and star of Love Story, dies aged 82

Death of star of Paper Moon, What’s Up, Doc? and Barry Lyndon announced by his son Patrick O’Neal

www.theguardian.com

For some reason his name brings back memories I have not thought of in years:

1. My parents were fans of him in “Peyton Place.” I never saw it.

2. My parents were hoping that my sister and I would fall asleep before “Love Story” started at the drive-in. We didn’t—we wanted to know if we could say “bad words” since Jenny said them.

3. My mom and I giggling through “What’s Up Doc?”

4. Dr. James Costigan (Jim) talking about being cast as an extra in “Paper Moon” in a forgotten university communications class.

RIP Ryan.

 

[Skate Talker]

Yes lots of memories. I'm kind of curious why there seems to be no mention, unless I missed it, of Ryan's many appearances on Bones playing Dr. Brennan's father.

 

[Cachoo]

Denny Laine of Wings and Moody Blues has died:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/05/entertainment/denny-laine-death/index.html

RIP

I heard “Nights in White Satin” recently. I wonder if Denny Laine realized he was part of one of the greatest make-out songs of that generation. Rest In Peace and thank you.

 

[Cachoo]

Dammit!
https://deadline.com/2023/12/andre-...ial_bar&utm_content=top_amp&utm_id=1235665513

 

[Desperado]

From Homicide to Brooklyn 99, you couldn’t have two more different cop characters. What a talent. What a loss.

RIP Mr. Braugher.

 

[Cachoo]

From Homicide to Brooklyn 99, you couldn’t have two more different cop characters. What a talent. What a loss.

RIP Mr. Braugher.

He also played a kick-ass attorney on the last season of “The Good Fight.” I will never forget Detective Frank Pembleton though. He was great in that show. It feels like he had more to give because he was so talented—this is a painful loss. RIP

 

[Amy L]

Andre Braugher's death really got to me. Captain Holt is one of my most favorite TV characters ever. RIP

 

[manhn]

Andre was also great in movies like Get on the Bus and Glory. I thought he’d be one of those actors that would get that one great role later in life that would garner him Oscar glory. A sudden and sad loss.

 

[Cachoo]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/12/arts/television/andre-braugher-dead.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Fk0.nu7c.FIFsw8uB_tca&smid=url-share

 

[BittyBug]

So young. I loved him in Homicide.