Throw Jump Techniques across nations

[starrynight]

This was briefly being discussed in the Canadian Pairs thread, but I thought it was interesting enough to warrant its own thread.

Whilst on Battle of the Blades, Meagan Duhamel reworked her throw salchow technique to change it from an arm hold to a hip hold. She posted an instagram video comparing both jumps. In my opinion, the hip hold throw was significantly more aesthetic.

She said this: And I now understand why the Russians and Chinese (and any other team that uses the hip hold) have such big throws. It does generate more explosive power.

Link to videos: https://www.instagram.com/p/CIOKXUJLbZN/?igshid=4ain1ywph8lb

I am intersted in people's views on the different throw jump techniques.

I will say that Shen/Zhao used an arm hold, rather than a hip hold, and their jumps were huge: https://youtu.be/9Kql3sf_crA?t=210

And I'm going back trying to think if different countries have different techniques. Moscovitch/Moore-Towers were a Canadian team and they did hip hold throws: https://youtu.be/dr62ka2t7Bc?t=168

 

[overedge]

Not sure that it's a national thing. It might have more to do with the nationality of the coach, or with the coach's preferred technique (which might or might not relate to what they themselves were taught). And it might also be whatever the skaters feel most confident or secure with.

 

[casken]

The Chinese pairs popularized the technique of having the guy jump off the ice himself to throw the partner.

That was considered improper technique before that.

 

[canbelto]

G&G were arm holders:

[4K60P] Ekaterina Gordeeva and Sergei Grinkov 1994 Lillehammer Olympic FS "Moonlight Sonata"

Ekaterina Gordeeva and Sergei Grinkov / Екатерина Гордеева и Сергей Гриньков / エカテリーナ・ゴルデーワ, セルゲイ・グリンコフ 1994 Lillehammer Winter Olympic Games Figure Skating ...

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So were B&S:

[4K60P] Elena Berezhnaya and Anton Sikharulidze 2002 SLC SP "Lady Caliph"

Elena Berezhnaya and Anton Sikharulidze / Елена Бережная, Антон Сихарулидзе / エレーナ・ベレズナヤ, アントン・シハルリドゼ2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Pair's Short Pro...

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[CantALoop]

I've also noticed a difference in throw jumps where some pairs will have the lady tuck her trailing arm behind her back (a la Aliona Savchenko) instead of wrapping both arms in front of the chest like most skaters do during solo jumps.